Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reproductive Freedom for All
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
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This article on a reproductive rights organization does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations (WP:NORG) or the general notability guideline (WP:GNG). While the organization has a long history, the sources cited are predominantly primary (e.g., the organization's own website) or routine mentions in news (e.g., announcements of name changes or leadership). There is insufficient in-depth, independent coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources to establish encyclopedic notability beyond basic existence. A search for additional sources (e.g., via Google Books, News, and Scholar) yielded mostly passing references or advocacy-related content, not significant analysis. Suggest deletion or merger if any unique content can be salvaged. 1111crossover (talk) 12:11, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Health and fitness, Organizations, Politics, Sexuality and gender, Medicine, United States of America, and Washington, D.C.. jolielover♥talk 12:18, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Keep seems obviously notable just looking at the sources in the article, even for NORG, with significant coverage by the New York Times, NPR, the Guardian, mentions in books. This user has in the entirety of their Wikipedia tenure heavily edited two articles and then nominated both of them for deletion, including, in the other instance, removing external links from the Ohio Federation of Teachers article, so this may be a matter for ANI. SportingFlyer T·C 13:41, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- My edits aimed to clean up before nominating since the guidelines mentioned no bad faith. There was a duplicate external links section so I was trying to merge the two together. I moved two of those links to the reference section. The only other one that I actually removed is a dead link as you can see for yourself. Now let's actually dig into the sources for WP:NORG and WP:GNG. The New York Times pieces, like this one on the rebrand , mostly echo press releases without deep, independent analysis. Same with NPR spots and The Guardian mentions . they're quick nods in bigger election stories, not focused coverage on the group itself. Book refs are just passing. This feels like routine news, not enough for a standalone page. 1111crossover (talk) 14:04, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep - this is the current name for NARAL Pro-Choice America. This is a major abortion rights group, and easily meets the GNG. Guettarda (talk) 13:45, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, it's just the new name for NARAL Pro-Choice America, but no unique deep coverage beyond basic rebrand news NYT AP. Fails standalone WP:GNG and WP:NORG. 1111crossover (talk) 14:09, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- That's not correct. The article is about the org under all its names. The original NARAL Pro-Choice America has been renamed to Reproductive Freedom for All, so what you're proposing is that we delete that org's article. Guettarda (talk) 14:27, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Even under the old name NARAL Pro-Choice America sources are mostly routine mentions without deep independent analysis needed for WP:GNG or WP:NORG. 1111crossover (talk) 14:49, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- The article is shockingly bad. But that's not a reason to delete. See WP:BEFORE. Guettarda (talk) 19:50, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Even under the old name NARAL Pro-Choice America sources are mostly routine mentions without deep independent analysis needed for WP:GNG or WP:NORG. 1111crossover (talk) 14:49, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- That's not correct. The article is about the org under all its names. The original NARAL Pro-Choice America has been renamed to Reproductive Freedom for All, so what you're proposing is that we delete that org's article. Guettarda (talk) 14:27, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, it's just the new name for NARAL Pro-Choice America, but no unique deep coverage beyond basic rebrand news NYT AP. Fails standalone WP:GNG and WP:NORG. 1111crossover (talk) 14:09, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Strong keep, as one of foundational organizations in the U.S. abortion rights movement, the impact of their advocacy (especially beyond abortion rights) is well documented in academia. The nominator claims "
encyclopedic notability beyond basic existence
" has not been met, but this claim conflicts with the cited books from Solinger (Abortion Wars), Staggenborg (The Pro-choice Movement), McBride and Keys (Abortion in the United States). Their impact in American politics has been regularly covered since its founding, with its advocacy in the 2004 elections (per the New York Times) particularly of note. Bridget (talk) 13:51, 10 December 2025 (UTC)- The books you mentioned, like Solinger's Abortion Wars, Staggenborg's The Pro-Choice Movement, and McBride and Keys' Abortion in the United States, mostly cover the old NARAL's history and work, not this rebrand. Stuff like the 2003 New York Times piece or recent rebrand news is routine announcements, not real analysis WP:ROUTINE. 1111crossover (talk) 14:17, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- That is the same organization, so I'm not sure why you're trying to discount coverage of the same organization merely because it's taken different names or branding through its 50+ year history. We have reliable sources available that have documented the name changes, and in the specific news articles you provided, actually provide analysis of the political circumstances preempting their strategy change (i.e., those sources go beyond WP:ROUTINE type of coverage). Bridget (talk) 14:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- I get it's the same group with name tweaks over 50+ years, but the sources mostly have no deep independent dives needed for WP:GNG or WP:NORG. Like the NYT rebrand piece and AP story just report the change with basic politics discussion, which is WP:ROUTINE. Books like Abortion Wars have only quick nods but no real analysis. This fails standalone notability (even for old NARAL Pro-Choice America). 1111crossover (talk) 14:45, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- That is the same organization, so I'm not sure why you're trying to discount coverage of the same organization merely because it's taken different names or branding through its 50+ year history. We have reliable sources available that have documented the name changes, and in the specific news articles you provided, actually provide analysis of the political circumstances preempting their strategy change (i.e., those sources go beyond WP:ROUTINE type of coverage). Bridget (talk) 14:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- The books you mentioned, like Solinger's Abortion Wars, Staggenborg's The Pro-Choice Movement, and McBride and Keys' Abortion in the United States, mostly cover the old NARAL's history and work, not this rebrand. Stuff like the 2003 New York Times piece or recent rebrand news is routine announcements, not real analysis WP:ROUTINE. 1111crossover (talk) 14:17, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - deletion rationale would also have us delete any sports team who changes its name. This nomination feels pretty WP:POINT-y to me. (ESkog)(Talk) 14:53, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sports teams get ongoing deep analysis in sources like Sports Illustrated, unlike this group's routine rebrand mentions per WP:ROUTINE (NYT, AP). Genuine WP:NORG fail. Not WP:POINT. 1111crossover (talk) 15:06, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy keep Obviously notable organization with significant coverage spanning several decades. Agree that this nomination seem POINTy and clueless to discount coverage on the name change when there's plenty on the organiation under its previous names as well. Reywas92Talk 16:46, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: What are we doing here? Obviously meets WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Sourcing can always be improved but in this organization's case, the reliable coverage in independent sourcing is far and wide. Marquardtika (talk) 17:26, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Obviously meets WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG.Demt1298 (talk) 22:26, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - WP:SIGCOV solid article on an important non-profit. Moondragon21 (talk) 17:24, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
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