Talk:Zhang Cong

GA review

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Nominator: Min968 (talk · contribs) 04:31, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Векочел (talk · contribs) 19:19, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this article. Векочел (talk) 19:19, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Sources

• Dardess (2016), pp. 14–15. The censors then accused Zhang of "deflect[ing] and disorder[ing] the ruler's mind", but the emperor refused to punish him.
  • The censors and supervising secretaries (kedao)impeached him for his first statement on grounds that it “deflected and disor the ruler’s mind.” Jiajing refused demands from the Ministry of Ritesthat he chastise Zhang.
• Dardess (2016), p. 42. Although Zhang lacked experience in administration, he possessed qualities that made him a valuable asset to the emperor. He was direct, austere, and erudite, which allowed him to form a strong bond with the emperor.
  • Zhang Fujing had been a hard warrior in a righteous cause—sincere, austere, and enormously erudite—and Jiajing felt close to him.
• Geiss (1998), p. 456. Following further power struggles within the Grand Secretariat in 1529, the emperor promoted Zhang to senior grand secretary.
  • During 1528 and 1529, the grand secretaries continued to struggle forpower. Yang I-ch'ing, the chief grand secretary, refused to follow ChangTs'ung's directions on every issue, and a rift developed between them.Chang and Kuei were accused of abusing their authority. In September1529 both men were dismissed from office, but their partisans at courtcontinued to attack Yang. Huo T'ao (1487—1540) accused Yang of accepting bribes from eunuchs he had recommended for appointments in theimperial household and said that he had colluded with court officials to lodge false charges against Kuei O. When these allegations were borne outChang and Kuei were reinstated, and Yang was allowed to retire.
  • The springtime, so to speak, of Jiajing’s long reign coincided with ZhangFujing’s elevation to the Grand Secretariat in 1527 and his occupation ofMing China’s highest post, chief grand secretary, from 1529 to 1535. Dardess 2016, p. 35

Prose

• Regarding the early life section, it is fairly brief. He did live 46 years of his life before he passed the imperial exams. Do the sources really say so little about his early life?
  • @Векочел: The documents I have say little about Zhang Cong's early life, and he is only specifically mentioned from the time he participated in the Great Rites Controversy later on. Min968 (talk) 05:08, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
• "Zhang argued in support of the emperor's position and against the prevailing opinion." Please clarify what was the emperor's position in the Great Rites Controversy.
  • Fixed.
• "Despite this, the emperor appointed them as chancellors of the Hanlin Academy." Clarify what the pronoun them refers to here. Zhang and Gui?
  • Done.
• "This elevated him to one of the emperor's most trusted advisors." Who were some of the other advisors the emperor trusted?
  • Fixed.
• "This allowed the Jiajing Emperor to focus on implementing comprehensive reforms to address the legacy of militarism, wantonness, and corruption left by his cousin and predecessor, the Zhengde Emperor." If possible, go into some detail about some of the reforms of the early Jiajing era.
  • In my opinion, the next paragraph could answer this question. The reforms were centered around the principles of fugu, a "restoration of antiquity", and zhongxing, a "midcourse revival". The main goal of these reforms was to improve and organize state ceremonies in order to showcase China as a model for other countries and to maintain order and superiority over non-Chinese nations.
• "However, in 1531, he refused to support the emperor's further reform plans". What were some of the suggested reforms that Zhang Cong opposed?
  • When Chang Ts'ung declined to carry out various reforms in court ceremony for the emperor, the emperor quickly found someone who would.
• "He died four years later in 1539." We need a source for this death date.
  • Done.

Векочел (talk) 03:41, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Passing this article. Векочел (talk) 08:45, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

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Requested move 25 August 2025

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Toadspike [Talk] 17:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

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• Zhang Cong (Ming dynasty) → Zhang Cong
• Zhang Cong → Zhang Cong (water polo)

– The Ming official seems to be the primary topic for this name. Векочел (talk) 13:11, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Biography/Politics and government and WikiProject China have been notified of this discussion. Векочел (talk) 13:11, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:41, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. Min968 (talk) 04:45, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support per nom. The Ming official leads in Pageviews since the article was created (ratio ≈5:1) and the historical figure perhaps enjoys a presumption of greater long-term significance over an obscure water polo player, absent evidence to the contrary. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 18:16, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support and add hatnote from which ever article is at the base name to the other. Skynxnex (talk) 04:34, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

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