Talk:Works of mercy
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Merge
[edit]Very little in the corporal and spiritual acts pages not in here. I don't believe they had a distinct history to occupy different pages. Goldfritha 01:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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Disagreement in Corporal Works of Mercy
[edit]I think that "Ransom the captive" ought to be in the list with "Give drink to the thirsty" as the extra does anyone disagree?Commment (talk) 20:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
You can disagree, but to make it official you would have to take it up with the pope... 121.223.86.113 (talk) 10:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
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Methodism
[edit]I noticed Methodism and Catholicism are merged together for some odd reason.
I tried to edit the page, and I noticed there's a large, hidden section on Methodism. But it's not showing up in the article. :-/
Chargee (talk) 18:07, 28 May 2012 (UTC) Chargee
Original research
[edit]I tagged the "Biblical basis" section as possible OR because it has no sources other than a primary source (i.e., Bible verses). The interpretation given is by no means the only one that exists for these verses. Indyguy (talk) 19:28, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
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Eighth corporal and spiritual works
[edit]Just as Pope John Paul II added the Luminous Mysteries to the rosary, Pope Francis has added to the works of mercy. For reference to Pope John Paul II's action, see: [] Ccox csc (talk) 13:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Eighth corporal and spiritual works - Counterpoint
[edit]He did not do it through a binding document though, only as a suggestion. It doesn't place it on the same level as the others, so I suggest it be at least listed separately, not as part of the 7. Additionally, even if it were added, it would be a corporal work, not a spiritual work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.240.110.38 (talk) 17:18, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Read the document
[edit]Pope Francis was explicit about both a spiritual and a corporal work of mercy. Read the document before you opine. Ccox csc (talk) 00:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
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Methodist Works of Mercy?
[edit]The entry on Methodism is clearly original research by the OP. There is no formal list in Methodism called the "works of mercy" as listed in this article. The United Methodist Church does not have such a list. The citations to back up this entry make no such mention. I have deleted it. If reinstated, then cite a source that lists these 'Methodist works of mercy'. Extrapolating them from the writings of John Wesley and listing them here is not valid. I suspect this is the work of someone I call the "Methodist Editor" who has inserted highly dubious Methodist entries all over Wikipedia. IACOBVS (talk) 00:58, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- @IACOBVS: You're insistent on making this article solely about Catholicism, but including a proportionally small section on Methodist views does not undermine the fact that the "works of mercy"are most prominent in Catholicism. The multiple sources cited in the section are evidence that Wesley regarded acts as "works of mercy", and so does the contemporary Methodist tradition. One source that does actually list these works of mercy is from the United Methodist Church, the largest Methodist denomination: "John Wesley believed that "means of grace," include both "works of piety" (instituted means of grace) and "works of mercy" [emphasis added] (prudential means of grace). He preached that Christians must do both works of piety and works of mercy in order to move on toward Christian perfection".[1] --Hazhk (talk) 13:25, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- I will concede that the numerated list doesn't reflect the source above (note: I didn't add the section originally) and a direct quote from Wesley is more appropriate. However it's clear that Methodist churches do have a concept of "works of mercy". -- Hazhk (talk) 13:34, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Hazhk:I have no interest in making this article solely about Roman Catholicism. The lists of the seven corporal works of mercy have their basis in Matthew 25:31–46. However, these lists of seven have their origins in the Medieval Latin Church - prior to the Reformation. All Christian denominations promote works of mercy in some way. Both Martin Luther and John Calvin viewed works of mercy, while not as a means to earn salvation, as the necessary, grateful response of the believer to God’s free grace and a key component of sanctification. I agree that Wesley certainly believed that works of mercy were necessary manifestations of grace in the Christian which could lead to a state of perfection in earthly life. My problem is singling out one denomination and creating a unique list - such as the "Methodist Works of Mercy". --IACOBVS (talk) 07:13, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- I apologize for assuming bad faith - that you intended this to be a Catholic topic only. That said, I think that the article should reflect that Protestants acknowledge the works of mercy. --Hazhk (talk) 20:26, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Hazhk Protestants (like me), yes! But maybe not just Methodists, or in particular one branch, United Methodists. But also I am reacting to a Wikipedia poster that I call the "Methodist editor". He has flooded Wikipedia with very "high church" Methodist entries on almost every topic, many of which are beyond dubious, such as Methodists venerating the Virgin Mary, using crucifixes, incense, etc. He created the so-called Methodist list of seven works of mercy which he extrapolated from Wesley's works. That is, of course, original research as is not allowed on Wikipedia. And I have nothing againt Methodists - I spent an enoyable semester at Duke University Divinity School. IACOBVS (talk) 20:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
- I apologize for assuming bad faith - that you intended this to be a Catholic topic only. That said, I think that the article should reflect that Protestants acknowledge the works of mercy. --Hazhk (talk) 20:26, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Hazhk:I have no interest in making this article solely about Roman Catholicism. The lists of the seven corporal works of mercy have their basis in Matthew 25:31–46. However, these lists of seven have their origins in the Medieval Latin Church - prior to the Reformation. All Christian denominations promote works of mercy in some way. Both Martin Luther and John Calvin viewed works of mercy, while not as a means to earn salvation, as the necessary, grateful response of the believer to God’s free grace and a key component of sanctification. I agree that Wesley certainly believed that works of mercy were necessary manifestations of grace in the Christian which could lead to a state of perfection in earthly life. My problem is singling out one denomination and creating a unique list - such as the "Methodist Works of Mercy". --IACOBVS (talk) 07:13, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- I will concede that the numerated list doesn't reflect the source above (note: I didn't add the section originally) and a direct quote from Wesley is more appropriate. However it's clear that Methodist churches do have a concept of "works of mercy". -- Hazhk (talk) 13:34, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- @IACOBVS: You're insistent on making this article solely about Catholicism, but including a proportionally small section on Methodist views does not undermine the fact that the "works of mercy"are most prominent in Catholicism. The multiple sources cited in the section are evidence that Wesley regarded acts as "works of mercy", and so does the contemporary Methodist tradition. One source that does actually list these works of mercy is from the United Methodist Church, the largest Methodist denomination: "John Wesley believed that "means of grace," include both "works of piety" (instituted means of grace) and "works of mercy" [emphasis added] (prudential means of grace). He preached that Christians must do both works of piety and works of mercy in order to move on toward Christian perfection".[1] --Hazhk (talk) 13:25, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- ↑
"Mission: The Works of Mercy". The United Methodist Church. Archived from the original on 9 December 2000. Retrieved 5 July 2011.
John Wesley believed that "means of grace," include both "works of piety" (instituted means of grace) and "works of mercy" (prudential means of grace). He preached that Christians must do both works of piety and works of mercy in order to move on toward Christian perfection.