Talk:What a Devastating Turn of Events

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 21:23, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that upon traveling to Los Angeles to work on What a Devastating Turn of Events, Rachel Chinouriri decided to avoid multiple plane trips due to her fear of flying?

• Source: From NME: "But it was a later trip to LA in early 2023 where Chinouriri’s anxieties began to amplify. Emerging musicians often take trips to LA for writing sessions; some fly out four or so times a year, but visit for no more than a fortnight. Chinouriri, who has a fear of flying, elected to stay for five."

• • ALT1: ... that with her debut album What a Devastating Turn of Events, Rachel Chinouriri aimed to tackle the underrepresentation of Black female artists in the indie scene? Source: From NME: "Chinouriri wants to recreate the visual and sonic aesthetics of that era on her debut. The noughties represents a period of her life where she was eagerly learning about British pop culture icons such as Alexa Chung, Oasis, The Libertines. Taking inspiration from this era is Chinouriri’s way to reclaim her position in British society and the indie scene, where Black womanhood is routinely ignored and misrepresented."
  • ALT2: ... that Rachel Chinouriri decided to include the English flag on the cover art of What a Devastating Turn of Events in order to celebrate her Black British identity? Source: From The Guardian: "Chinouriri, however, decided to use the St George’s Cross as an act of reclamation. 'For Black people and POC, that flag’s not something people are proud of,' she says, adding that some people around her discouraged her from using it on her album cover. But on her single 'The Hills', Chinouriri sings about rediscovering her British identity after feeling lonely during a period spent in Los Angeles. 'No matter the trauma I’ve had from being raised in the UK, being Black British and being the only Black person in my neighbourhood, it’s made me the person who I am,' she says. 'There is a culture within being Black British that is distinct and strong, and harbours creativity.' Using the flag is 'a celebration – taking back this thing and saying: you can’t get rid of me'."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Saturn (SZA song)
  • Comment: Thank you to QuietHere and all the people who took a look at this article! The album will actually be released next Friday, so I don't have any specific request for the date of publication. I must address that I've "recycled" my QPQ submission from a previous entry of mine that was rejected (due to my big mistake): is that still OK?

Moved to mainspace by Oltrepier (talk) and QuietHere (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Oltrepier (talk) 19:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC).

• Comment: Not a review, but I find ALT0 nothingburgery, and ALT2 would be more interesting if it read "Black British identity".--Launchballer 09:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: I agree on ALT2, so I've slightly edited it accordingly. Thanks for the feedback! Oltrepier (talk) 09:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Interesting, well-sourced hooks that summarize the quotes well. Particularly, ALT1 and ALT 2 are the most interesting. This is my first review, so I'm not sure about the QPQ. Another review is needed.Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 17:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

I'd be inclined to take Saturn as a QPQ, on the grounds that it hasn't been 'paid', i.e. 2024 NCAA Division I women's basketball championship game wasn't actually reviewed. The Professional ratings table interferes with the Track listing - any chance that section could be expanded?--Launchballer 18:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer and Heidi Pusey BYU: Thank you for the feedback! Yes, that section is definitely too short at the moment, and I'll try to work on it as soon as possible. Oltrepier (talk) 09:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: Done! This is the first time I edited an album article from scratch, so let me know if there's anything else I should fix! Oltrepier (talk) 12:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Heidi Pusey BYU: I agree with Launchballer, the QPQ can be used here. Go ahead and take credit for the review. Since Alt2 seems to be the preferred hook, I'm striking the others. BTW, I checked this over and will put the check down for you. --evrik ^(talk) 02:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

GA review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:What a Devastating Turn of Events/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Oltrepier (talk · contribs) 15:47, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: OlifanofmrTennant (talk · contribs) 01:03, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Lead

• Alot of WP:LEADCITE violations
• Lead seems too short

 Done Thank you, I always forget about keeping citations out of the lead section... I've cut down most of them (they're all featured throughout the article, anyway), while also trying to add some more relevant details.

Background and recording

• First paragraph is all one sentence, can it be broken up
• "[Forestdale], [Hereford] and [Los Angeles]." makes it seem like Foresdale is a city Hereford.
• Maybe worth noting that Los Angeles is in the US while the other two are in the UK

 Done I've made a few adjustments and re-shuffled the second paragraph, in order to make it clearer and smoother.

Music and lyrics

• That last paragraph appears to be one long sentence. Can it be broken up

 Done I've tried to break up the sentence as requested; let me know how it looks now!

Release and promotion

• Unpipe "Brooklyn, New York" per WP:NOTBROKEN
• "Los Angeles" should be "Los Angeles, California" for constancy
• Delink "Los Angeles" for consistancy

 Done Does it look better now? I've also tried to improve the grammar slightly!

Critical reception

• Delink "NME" for consistancy

 Done It took me a minute to understand your request, but eventually I got it and complied to it! : D

Track listing

• Note A seems incorrectly formatted]'

? Are you sure about that? I think it should work correctly as it is...

References

• Linking is inconsistent in the ref’s. Some link publications some dont
• Ref 14 seems unnecessary.
• Ref 18 shouldn't be in all caps

 Done I've now deleted that Warner Music Ireland citation: I just felt it wasn't necessary anymore. I actually don't remember if I added that reference to the "five fortnights" myself, but I've now moved it to make its meaning clearer. I've also tried to make ref-linking more consistent: whenever a source was repeatedly cited (e.g. The Line of Best Fit, NME), I left a link just on the first citation. Let me know if it looks better!

Misc

• There seems to be too many quotes present

? Did you mean the interview quotes, or the ones in the "Critical reception" section?

@Oltrepier: that's what I found Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 18:21, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

@OlifanofmrTennant: Thank you for your review: I've tried my best at cleaning the article up and complying to your suggestions. Let me know how it looks now!

On a side note: I haven't forgot about reviewing your article, I promise... : ) Oltrepier (talk) 14:05, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Generally, throughout the page there is a lot of quotes can these be paraphrased Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:27, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

@OlifanofmrTennant I've now trimmed down most of the quotes, as you suggested. Please let me know how you feel about it! Oltrepier (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

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