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| On 8 January 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved to MAGA movement. The result of the discussion was not moved (consensus to split instead). |
Can we remove some of the nav boxes?
[edit]In addition to the needed infobox, there are four (4) nav boxes that push valuable graphics and pictures down to lower sections (a special problem in larger computer screens). I've always thought of nav boxes as borderline ~spam. Can we remove three of them? I propose keeping only "This article is part of a series about Donald Trump" —RCraig09 (talk) 20:12, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- ^ Reviving my question. ^ —RCraig09 (talk) 17:28, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
Can we clean up the ideology page to be less informal?
[edit]So many informal ideologies and so many ideologies in the first place can we just simplify it to 2-3 ideologies and 2-4 factions? People are going to take this page not very seriously ~2026-16349-0 (talk) 21:53, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed, the ideologies in the infobox need consolidating. Right now, it looks like people have just dumped stuff in there. Isolationism, interventionism, and expansionism are all right next to each other! I'll take a look at which ones are best supported by the sources and see if I can narrow them down. Be-Plants (talk) 21:51, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
Interventionism/Jingoism as an ideology under "Factions"
[edit]Right now Trump currently is at war with Iran, has kidnapped Maduro from Venezuela, and previously he has threatened to invade Canada and Greenland. Obviously there's an isolationist faction of the Trumpists like Tucker; but its clear that a significant portion of Trump's base and cabinet rejects isolationist doctrine in favor of aggressive foreign policy. Shouldn't this be reflected in the ideology box?
Here's some cursory sources that discuss Trumpist jingoism/interventionism:
https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2025/09/us-political-interventionism-under-trump
https://www.epc.eu/publication/trumps-interventionist-isolationism-venezuela-as-a-symptom-of-a-new-world-disorder/ (uses an oxymoron of having both interventionist and isolationism to display this disparity in trump's beliefs)
https://quincyinst.org/events/interventionism-on-steroids-the-trump-takeover-of-venezuela/
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/21/harris-column-trump-great-president-00199564 HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 17:02, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- I added "Interventionism" to the factions list. The terms "imperialism" or "jingoism" might be more accurate, but a source analysis might be necessary to see which is the most commonly used. There is a lot of overlap with the three terms, but I do suppose they are not entirely the same.
- I also added "Expansionism" as its meaning is definitely not the same to the previous terms. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 17:21, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- Jingoism? By Theodore Roosevelt's definition of the term?: "If by 'jingoism' they mean a policy in pursuance of which Americans will with resolution and common sense insist upon our rights being respected by foreign powers, then we are 'jingoes'."" I fail to see much of an ideological difference with the other war hawks. They still advocate for use of both threats and actual war in pursuit of their goals. Dimadick (talk) 19:04, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- I suppose Jingoism doesn't fit at all, then. Expansionism and interventionism should suffice unless if there's an argument for something else. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 20:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
I removed "Paleoconservatism"; Trumpism is a far-right ideology, but diplomatically it is not the same as paleoconservatism, so if "Neoconservatism" is not in the ideology box, there should be no "Paleoconservatism".ProgramT (talk) 07:40, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- I suppose Jingoism doesn't fit at all, then. Expansionism and interventionism should suffice unless if there's an argument for something else. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 20:25, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- Jingoism? By Theodore Roosevelt's definition of the term?: "If by 'jingoism' they mean a policy in pursuance of which Americans will with resolution and common sense insist upon our rights being respected by foreign powers, then we are 'jingoes'."" I fail to see much of an ideological difference with the other war hawks. They still advocate for use of both threats and actual war in pursuit of their goals. Dimadick (talk) 19:04, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
Trumpism is basically just Neo-Conservatism, anybody who denies this is a liar and a fraud
[edit]"There is a significant divide within the Republican Party and the MAGA movement on whether the United States should get involved in such a war overseas" No, there is not. The vast majority of Trump's supporters support his foreign policy. Trump is and always has been a Neo-Conservative. His problem with interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan were that he believed that the US actually was doing "Nation-building", and is opposed to that. There is nothing "Anti-Interventionist" about Trump or his ideology, he just doesn't like pretending that US imperialism is "Nation-building". This was obvious when he started his campaign, it was obvious when he was elected in 2016, it was obvious during his first term, it was obvious during Biden's term, it was obvious while he was campaigning in 2024, and anybody who still denies it is quite frankly (I will avoid extreme profanity here) so immensely unqualified to speak on politics that they should probably have their mouth stitched shut and locked in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives. Simply put, I and many others were right about Trumpism the entire time and this continued facade of Trumpism being some unique concept completely separate from Neo-Conservatism is the kind of thing people should be blacklisted from politics for. If any of you want to maintain any legitemacy as individuals who speak the truth to the public, add "Zionism" to the infobox and remove all implications that Trump or his supporters at large are isolationists. TrenchWanderer (talk) 02:09, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
- I added "Neoconservatism" to the infobox ProgramT (talk) 09:48, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
How many Trump policies were blocked and then reversed?
[edit]No mention of the Democrat appointed judges blocking Trump’s policies only to be reversed by SCOTUS. ~2026-36976-66 (talk) 17:24, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
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