Talk:Theia
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Puzzling sentence about Ikhnaie
[edit]I removed a cryptic reference to Ikhnaie, since 'town of Thesprotia' seemed wrong. Modern Thesprotia is actually a region and I suppose the ancient one was too. Also the term 'tracing goddess' didn't make sense. Anyone who can figure this out (and provide a source!) is welcome to restore the information. For more clues consider looking at Ichnaea and Themis. The word 'tracing' could mean tracking? As in hunters tracking animals? EdJohnston (talk) 14:12, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]Is her name pronounced 'thee-ah' or 'thay-ah'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.129.80.245 (talk) 11:58, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Theia as the "eldest" daughter claim
[edit]I'm surprised to read that Theia is the oldest daughter of Gaia and Uranus since, as far as I know, Oceanus is the oldest son and Tethys is the oldest daughter among the first generation of titans. This article claims that, according to Hesiod, Theia was the eldest daughter at line 132 of the Theogony. I checked this link: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0130%3Acard%3D104. I cannot confirm that claim and Theia is mentioned after line 135. I see at least two inconsistencies.
ICE77 (talk) 19:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
- Here’s what Hesiod says: “But afterwards [Gaia] lay with Heaven and bore deep-swirling Oceanus, Coeus and Crius and Hyperion and Iapetus, [135] Theia and Rhea, Themis and Mnemosyne and gold-crowned Phoebe and lovely Tethys.” (Theogony 132–136) So Theia is the first daughter listed by Hesiod. I think that Hesiod means that Theia was the oldest of the Titanides. But I think we would really need a source saying this, to assert this in the article. Paul August ☎ 21:39, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Paul August, from what I read Theia is merely listed as the first female in the list which is not enough to infer that she is the oldest. You seem to say that Hesiod inferred Theia was the oldest Titaness which I do not see anywhere.
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Theia → Theia (Titan) – There are other relevant articles; in particular, Theia (hypothetical planet) receives more views, and therefore this is not the primary topic. ~2026-44045-52 (talk) 12:52, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Disambiguate - there seem to be a lot of 'Theia' pages so I think it's worth disambiguating and then also renaming this page to 'Theia (Titan)'. Rather than one article receiving more views than others, I think the variety of pages itself demonstrates the need for disambiguation. Katiedevi (talk) 13:24, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Views is not the only factor when we determine a primary topic. The views are comparable between the two articles with 500 to 600 views per day for both articles in the last 30 days with a slightly stronger trends for the hypothetical planet. However, the planet is named after the goddess signifying the importance of the goddess article. I do not see strong and clear evidence to change. A.Cython(talk) 13:26, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Longterm significance criteron favors the titan greatly. Pageviews is not the sole argument for a page move. Despite its foundational role, the hypothetical planet has never had much significance in human culture, and only extremely recently was its possible existence even discovered. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:37, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per long-term significance, as well as the hypothetical nature of a planetoid that hasn't existed for billions of years. It's not that it can't be what most people are looking for, but this could change as models for the development of the earth-moon system change. And long-term significance is too quickly dismissed whenever something is named after persons or deities from antiquity. I was reminded of that just yesterday, when a redirect for the nomen of a Roman gens was changed into a genus of insects, because a century or more ago entomologists routinely mined classical dictionaries for names to give things—and thus such names are snatched up for the titles of Wikipedia articles that have hardly any traffic. Here there is at least a case to be made, but I think it's too soon to know whether it will will still be on readers' minds in ten or twenty years. P Aculeius (talk) 15:54, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:27, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Pageviews aren't everything! The mythological Theia has much greater long-term significance. NicoR8 (talk) 23:36, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
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