Talk:The Divine Image

It makes no sense to have the poem described not on the page, but the experience poem not described given in full. andycjp (talk) 02:43, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose merging The Divine Image into Songs of Innocence and of Experience. The poem doesn't seem more notable than any of the other 400+ in the collection, and I think the non-personal-reflection content of this page could easily be incorporated into that one. Moriwen (talk) 18:04, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

  Y Merge completed Klbrain (talk) 16:46, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

I have undone this merge. Every other poem in the Songs of Innocence and Experience (contrary to Moriwen's claim, there are only around 50) does have its own page. I am going to work on fixing the outstanding issues with the article's content. Daphne Preston-Kendal (talk) 14:09, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

My undo was undone on the grounds of notability. Sorry, it makes zero sense whatsoever that 48 out of 49 poems, including one that only appears in one copy, are notable enough for articles, but this one isn’t. User:Викидим was in the middle of doing sterling work starting to add sources and clean it up and the revert of the merge stomped on this.

Since this merger effectively amounts to a deletion of the page's contents (essentially none of it is in the Songs of Innocence and Experience article, despite the claim of a 'merge'), please go through the Articles for Deletion process if you want to do this again. And note WP:3RR. Daphne Preston-Kendal (talk) 22:04, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

This topic is uncontroversial to the extreme, so it should be easy to have a solution that will literally make everyone happy. There is WP:NODEADLINE, so my approach would include multiple steps:

1. Collect sources here  Done
2. Check the sources with Onel5969  Done
3. Move the sources into the article, add {{under construction}}  Done
4. Rewrite the article text

Cheers, Викидим (talk) 23:09, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

There are plenty of sources for this "axle" of Songs of Innocence (E. P. Thompson). Викидим (talk) 17:49, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Copyvio - false alarm

Earwig shows significant copyvio issues. This appears to be a false alarm: our article, pre-merge, is pretty old, the website Earwig points to is very new. Викидим (talk) 17:51, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Sources

This is a collection of sources intended to show the notability (see the discussion above). Everyone is invited to add or comment. Викидим (talk) 23:10, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

@Onel5969: The sources I have collected are below, starting with comparative literature at the top, theology lower. As I have expected, there appears to be more than sufficient WP:SIGCOV. In particular, Freeman 2016 alone is enough for a very decent start-class article. If you disagree with any or all sources, please let me know. Викидим (talk) 05:58, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

No I do not disagree. Excellent work. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 09:33, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

• Freeman, Kathryn S. (2016-12-01). "The Divine Image". A Guide to the Cosmology of William Blake. Taylor & Francis. pp. 89–90. ISBN 978-1-317-18808-7. Retrieved 2025-04-16.
• Pearce, Joseph; Asch, Robert (2015-06-15). "The Divine Image". The Romantic Poets Blake, Wordsworth and Coleridge: Ignatius Critical Editions. Ignatius Press. p. 2. ISBN 978-1-58617-264-0. Retrieved 2025-04-16.
• Gardner, Stanley (2014-01-13). Blake's 'Innocence' and 'Experience' Retraced. A&C Black. ISBN 978-1-4725-1013-6. Retrieved 2025-04-16.
• Thompson, E.P. (2014-07-15). "The Divine Image". In Lucas, John (ed.). William Blake. Routledge. pp. 27–42. ISBN 978-1-317-89204-5. Retrieved 2025-04-15.
• Gillham, Bill (1966-01-02). Blake's Contrary States: The 'Songs of Innocence and Experience' as Dramatic Poems. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-05083-8. Retrieved 2025-04-16.
• Bottrall, Margaret (1950). The Divine Image: A Study of Blake's Interpretation of Christianity. Ed. di Storia e Letteratura. Retrieved 2025-04-16.
• Smith, David J. (1967). "Blake's 'The Divine Image'". Explicator. Apr., XXV (69). ISSN 0014-4940.
• Law, Philip (1986). "Innocence Renewed: The Divine Images of Songs of Innocence and of Experience". Theology. 89 (730): 275–282. doi:10.1177/0040571X8608900405. ISSN 0040-571X. Retrieved 2025-04-16.