Talk:Robert Alan Beuth

Peer review

Robert Alan Beuth

This is the first Wikipedia article I've ever created "from the ground up", and also my first time working extensively on a BLP. I'm just hoping to make sure that everything is up to snuff and I didn't forget any necessary element, that there are no MoS issues, notability issues, etc.

Thanks, -- Andre Carrotflower (talk) 22:18, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Andre Carrotflower! Thanks for creating a biography of this artist. Here are my points that can help improve the article. They're usually on prose. You can improve the article further to WP:GA if you're interested.

• Be careful of promotional warning. Some lines include Philip was just starting out on what would prove to be a long and prestigious career and Beuth has continued to accumulate a lengthy résumé of television work. I copy-edited some of them.
• You can detail the lead. You can include the groups he was in, the films and works he was in. These can help make the reader more interested and add some "rapport", instead of a general applaud to the person.
• I'm concerned with the claim of his apex being at 1996. It only has one source, and may not authoritative. You can add more sources to expound on the Night Stand appearance.
• See WP:BROADWAYWORLD and search for a more reliable source.
• (minor) You can add archive links using IABot.

That's all I can provide for now. Ping me if you have anything to ask! RFNirmala (talk) 12:36, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

Drive-by comment(s) from Neo

I think the Life and career section is too long and should be divided into few parts. What do you say? dxneo (talk) 22:25, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

The "Life and career" section is already divided into six subsections. Do you have any specific ideas on how this could be organized differently? -- Andre Carrotflower (talk) 04:56, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

I have subscribed to this PR, but somehow I did not get a notification when new edits were made Facepalm Anyway, take reference from the likes of Cardi B or Tom Holland, you'll see what I mean. Not sure if you wanna take this to GA or FA, but I noticed there's a {{citation needed}} tag placed somewhere under the Television section. Please deal with it. dxneo (talk) 21:04, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

Firstly, I think you somewhat overstate the differences between Robert Alan Beuth#Life and career and the analogous sections in the Cardi B and Tom Holland articles; secondly, where there are significant differences, I don't think it serves the content of the Beuth article to remodel it along the lines of the latter two. More specifically:

• In both the Cardi B and Tom Holland articles, "Early life and education" are split off into their own dedicated subsections. However, in Beuth's case, doing so would be difficult since the lines between his early life, education, and early career are so blurred (i.e. his career essentially began in his early life as part of the Fresno Community Theater children's program, and subsequently continued as an element of his education at Fresno State University).
• The subsequent subsections describing Beuth's career break the information down along thematic lines, not chronologically. This is because all his different activities were taking place more-or-less simultaneously to each other; for instance, Beuth was continually working in television at the same time he was sculpting masks, at the same time he was writing and staging his original plays, etc. By contrast, Tom Holland's only notability is as an actor and Cardi B's only notability is as a musician, which in their case makes it a lot easier to present things in a purely sequential manner and to divide the subsections accordingly.
• The lack of any "Public image" section in the Beuth article befits a subject that, for all intents and purposes, has no public image at all: he's a character actor who works prolifically enough and in roles prominent enough to pass Wikipedia's notability standards, but he's not even remotely a household name on the level of Cardi B or Tom Holland.

As for the "citation needed" template, that's another aspect of the problem with sourcing information about the nature of Beuth's role in Slanted that was discussed in the parallel thread involving User:RFNirmala. I will address that when I can, but I can't promise any particular timeframe for doing so given my current offwiki workload. Done

-- Andre Carrotflower (talk) 01:01, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

Response to RFNirmala

Hello there, thank you for your feedback and I apologize for not getting around to responding until now. Your points are well taken, especially:

• ...regarding BroadwayWorld. The specific claim for which I used it as a source was "...and eventually traveled extensively through Europe to further enhance his skills in maskmaking and puppet carving". And the fact that I can't find that information corroborated elsewhere – not even in the interview on the "Jimpressions" YouTube channel, which I've used elsewhere as a source, and where Beuth otherwise goes into exhaustive detail on his history as a maker of theatrical masks – is rather concerning. As of now, I'd be more inclined to merely excise the claim entirely.

• Beuth's iMDB page is the ultimate source of most of the material about Slanted, but similarly to the BroadwayWorld situation, I was surprised by how little of it I was able to corroborate elsewhere. I was able to dig up an interview with Andrea Lwin that at least confirmed his involvement in the series, and specifically described how he was integral in the conception and shaping of the Marty Phister character. This suggests, but nonetheless doesn't prove, that he probably was credited as a writer. As for the 2011 LAWebFest, fourteen years later there isn't much information about it remaining on the Internet. Old versions of lawebfest.com archived at the Wayback Machine confirm that the series won various awards, but does not specifically mention any won by Beuth individually. So, again, I agree that section needs some significant editing, which I hope to get to shortly Done.

However:

• That Night Stand was the pinnacle of his television career seems pretty self-evident to me, given that it was a main role that he portrayed continuously for two seasons, whereas the remainder of his television filmography consists of one-, two-, or at most three-time appearances on a laundry list of different series.

-- Andre Carrotflower (talk) 03:45, 22 September 2025 (UTC)