Talk:Pumas UNAM

Aside from the fact that the article is clearly biased, it's very poorly written, even for Wikipedia standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.90.139.99 (talk) 19:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, the whole article is not written from a neutral point of view, plus, the support section seems to be taken from the rebel oficial website. --JoniJarvisalo 23:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I nominated the Golden Years section because it seems to be written by a Pumas fan, and I doubt the neutrality of the article. I think it should be rewritten or eliminated. --JoniJarvisalo 23:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

In fact I think the whole article should be double cheked. --JoniJarvisalo 23:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

since when does olimpico universitario hold 79k?

and fonseca was not produced by pumas, he was debuted in first division by la piedad.

who was Fonseca before Hugo took him to CU?

To be honest recent editing to this article it's been of poor quality, some collaborations are in the borderline of vandalism, please try to restrain yourselves from editing information if you can't back it up. BTW people isn't doing any favors by erasing relevant information to the history and tradition of the club. I can't believe someone erased the anthem!!!, anyone that has attended a game of Pumas knows the importance of the anthem, there's a reason of why it had a small section talking about it.

Please remove the Luis Flores link, that's a basketball player, not UNAM's Luis Flores.

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Anthem

The Sports Anthem of the UNAM does not belong to this team, but to the spoting representatives of the University. It does not belong in this page as it gives the feeling it was created by and for the soccer team. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.22.150 (talk) 01:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Article's origins

Is it right that the author of the "History" section almost copied -and translated- verbatim the History part of the official website? If interested, http://www.pumasunam.com.mx/n_historia2.php?id=XX and replace the XX from 2 to 23 Commanderraf (talk) 01:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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Requested move 14 August 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus favours the move; WP:COMMONNAME as policy is cited. The single oppose cites WP:OFFICIALNAME which is an essay and does not carry the same weight as a policy based decision. CoconutOctopus talk 14:39, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

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Club Universidad Nacional → Pumas UNAM – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Although the club's official name is Club Universidad Nacional, A.C., they are most commonly known as "Pumas UNAM", as the article itself suggests. Throughout the article, the club is called Pumas UNAM, and often just Pumas. If we look at other football-related articles on Wikipedia, we're most often using "Pumas UNAM" -- just take a look at Aaron Ramsey, for example. I'm willing to find sourcing this weekend (don't have time right now), but I think this move is pretty clear, in my opinion. We're just formalizing something that's already been known. Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:39, 14 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 07:14, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support – As the same standard of Tigres UANL, Lobos BUAP, Leones Negros UdeG. Svartner (talk) 18:28, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 19:52, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - COMMONNAME should/does not apply to clubs, we use WP:OFFICIALNAME, to prevent nonsense like articles being at Man U, Liverpool (football club), Sporting Lisbon etc. etc. - Inter Milan is the exception that proves the rule (and should be moved back IMHO). GiantSnowman 19:54, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

  Official names is an essay (that only asserts we have to use official names in these specific cases: royalty, American geography and political parties). Common name is part of the titling policy. If WP:Football uses "official names", then their project must explicitly establish it; yet again, that falls within a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 20:15, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

  The club uses it on their homepage, as do sources like Soccerway, so COMMONNAME arguments are even debatable. 'Pumas' is a nickname only, albeit a prominent one. GiantSnowman 20:46, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

  Official name has never been how we entirely dictate football club article titles. It plays a part, obviously, in order to avoid the admittedly ridiculous examples you cited. But it's overrided by COMMONNAME for the most part. Tigres UANL is the most prominent comparison to make with this case. That's not the club's "official name" per se, but it's the most appropriate one to use for an article title. Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:17, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom and Svartner — ♠ Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum ♠ 17:39, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

Support as easily the common name in English. Searching for news mainly comes up with Pumas UNAM, or Pumas, per nom suggestion, with Club Universidad Nacional fallen far behind these days. CNC (talk) 09:51, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

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