Talk:Pakistani Taliban

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 October 2025

Its written that its officially known as "fitna al khawrij", but this is not true. Fitna khawarij is a historic term. It's not an alias for pakistani taliban. Pakistan taliban is known as TTP or tehrik taliban Pakistan. Please correct Cosmickadet (talk) 19:43, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. While the group calls itself Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, Fitna Al Khwarij is the name used for it by the Pakistani government. The lead paragraph mentions both names. Day Creature (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Re-addition of "allies" section

Hello @Gotitbro. You removed the entire "Allies section" of the infobox. The discussion you linked here in your edit summary to only mentions alleged "state sponsors" of the Pakistani Taliban, not non-state ones and yet you removed both state and non-state allies.

I agree that the re-addition of alleged state sponsors of the Pakistani Taliban should require a consensus to be re-added, but you removed non-state ones without taking a consensus first. KashanAbbas (talk) 07:59, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Also, @Gotitbro, from what I read in the discussion you gave, the majority consensus was opposition to only the addition of India.

• 3 editors opposed India's inclusion entirely and had made few (if any) comments about Afghanistan
• 1 editor said to keep it limited to Afghanistan
• 1 editor wanted both (with alleged/denied in brackets)

This makes the ratio of the removal of India to inclusion 4 to 1 (80%) with the one wanting to keep it to just "alleged, denied", but for Afghanistan it was 3 agreeing to keep it and 2 with no comment/no support for removal.

From that, I find it difficult to understand why you removed Afghanistan. KashanAbbas (talk) 08:15, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

@KashanAbbas: The WP:RfC resulted in the consensus to remove alleged "state allies". You can restore the non-state actors if you want, I removed the parameter as a whole as it was being repeatedly targeted by socks and LTAs. The consensus includes Afghanistan and the RfC result was implemented as such (the failed RfC was initiated by a sock who wanted to include states in the param). And always be sure that WP:CONSENSUS is not a WP:VOTE count. Gotitbro (talk) 08:30, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

So what I'm getting is:

• I can add non-state actors
• I need a consensus to add Afghanistan
• I can't add India (at least without a proper WP:CONSENSUS among editors as well as with a WP:RELIABLE SOURCE)

Is this correct? I'm I getting this right? KashanAbbas (talk) 11:20, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

@Gotitbro KashanAbbas (talk) 07:48, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

Pretty much. You would need a clear consensus (e.g. another RfC) to proceed with anything to do with state actors here. Gotitbro (talk) 15:23, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

@Gotitbro I think that (maybe later) I'll do one to get Afghanistan re-added. As for India, it can stay out of the infobox. KashanAbbas (talk) 13:01, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Subgroups

According to this source, the TTP actually have unto 62 subgroups. ~2026-12054-82 (talk) 09:08, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Al Qaeda connection

Some additional source regarding the al Qaeda connection which claims the TTP’s charter had been shaped and honed by Al Qaeda.

The TTP’s charter had been shaped and honed by Al Qaeda, which regarded it as an affiliate. Both Osama’s general manager, Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, and Abu Yahya al-Libi, who now served as a religious adviser to Al Qaeda Central, had sent detailed suggestions on how the new movement should be run, pointing out flaws in its governing documents and making requests for more information so that new wording could be added. The TTP should “trust the rule of the Amir of the Believers Mullah Muhammad Omar Mujahid, and consider him as their emir.”

See also: Osama Bin Laden’s Files: Al Qaeda provided feedback on Pakistani Taliban’s charter --Jo1971 (talk) 13:24, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

References

TTP groups list

Some groups that appear on the infobox of this wiki page have either split again from the TTP, engaging in hostilities with them, like JuA, and others merged into the new IMP, a proxy front of the TTP in pakistan.

As such, the list seems too big, and some groups need to be eliminated from the list. It should also be noted that a small centralisation program is ongoing during the leadership of Noor Wali, as he wants to consolidate power and give the TTP a singular, unique image, as shown during the massive rebranding and improvement of their media wing in the 2020's, Umar Media. Demeseriecroitor (talk) 09:35, 6 August 2026 (UTC)