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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 16, 2026. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Kreni-Promeni activists put up a billboard in Belgrade with attached cotton lungs that gradually darkened as they absorbed polluted air? | ||||||||||
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GA review
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- This review is transcluded from Talk:Kreni-Promeni/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Vacant0 (talk · contribs) 15:16, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: JustARandomSquid (talk · contribs) 19:52, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hello! I'll take a look at this. JustARandomSquid (talk) 19:52, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for picking this up. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:42, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability):
b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
- a (reference section):
b (inline citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
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- I'm not available to do a review just yet, but I will note a references section, a stable article history, and that all three images are relevant, suitably captioned, and have their copyright accounted for. JustARandomSquid (talk) 20:00, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
- I unfortunately didn't find time to review this today, either, but to not lose momentum, I'm going to put a Veracity table down here for now. One other thing I have to ask you about is the usage of "the KP" throughout the article. I don't think that's correct? If "the" isn't used next to the full name, it shouldn't next to the acronym, unlike if, for example, the P stood for "party" ("the SNP", but that isn't the case, so it shouldn't need a "the" here. JustARandomSquid (talk) 20:51, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- That’s actually a good point. I agree. I’ll go ahead and remove that tomorrow. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
Done Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:36, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- That’s actually a good point. I agree. I’ll go ahead and remove that tomorrow. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'm always a fan of fixing small errors myself, but as you may have noticed I've got a bit carried away and started proofreading the translated headlines in the references (mostly making them snappier and more journalistic, removing excess "the"s and sprinkling in some present simple). This is obviously way outside the scope of a GA review, so if you don't understand or disagree with something, pretend I did it unrelated to the review and just revert it, or at least bring it up. JustARandomSquid (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- I appreciate it. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- One thing I didn't fix myself is the sentence "[...] KP activists put up a billboard in Belgrade, depicting lungs that will eventually fill up with polluted air." I find that hard to understand, so maybe you could rephrase that to be a better description of the billboard? JustARandomSquid (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- What about now? Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- I've given it a shot myself and rephrased to emphasise that they're physical cotton "lungs". Maybe that's better? JustARandomSquid (talk) 22:13, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 09:54, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
- I've given it a shot myself and rephrased to emphasise that they're physical cotton "lungs". Maybe that's better? JustARandomSquid (talk) 22:13, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- What about now? Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- Now, this is outside of the scope of GA, but have you ever considered translating "Zakon o X" as "X Act"? That's the translation used by the ECtHR, for example (see "RELEVANT LEGAL FRAMEWORK AND PRACTICE" here). I'm not saying you should translate it like that, indeed "Law on X" is used by the Venice Commission, for example, and it's perfectly fine, I just want you to know it's an option. JustARandomSquid (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- I prefer "Law on X". Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 21:00, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- One last thing that I noticed is that when talking about the number of signatures one of Kreni-Promeni's petitions received, you use the word "claimed" twice, which is discouraged by MOS:SAID. JustARandomSquid (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- Done. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- This time I'm actually going to put down a Veracity table. JustARandomSquid (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
This table lists 10 random passages from throughout the article (9.8% of 102 total passages). These passages contain 10 inline citations (9.2% of 109 in the article). Generated with the Veracity user script. JustARandomSquid (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- what about now? Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 09:57, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
- This is about "After it was announced that the Expropriation Law (related to the Rio Tinto project)". Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 09:57, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
| Reference # | Letter | Source | Archive | Status | Notes |
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| In February 2021, KP activists put up a billboard in Belgrade, depicting lungs that will eventually fill up with polluted air. | |||||
| 7 | a | n1info.rs | ✅ | ||
| After it was announced that the Expropriation Law (related to the Rio Tinto project) | |||||
| 19 | a | slobodnaevropa.org | ❓ | Can we add an allegedly or find a more explicit source for this one? Unless I'm missing something, the article only says that protestors "tvrde" that the law is because of Rio Tinto. JustARandomSquid (talk) 22:24, 8 June 2026 (UTC) | |
| Amidst the protests, KP and several other non-governmental organisations launched a petition against changes to the Law on Referendum; according to them it had reached 68,000 signatories by 24 November. | |||||
| 25 | danas.rs | ✅ | |||
| In January 2023, KP launched a petition against the urbanisation of the Tara National Park. | |||||
| 34 | nova.rs | ❓ | Can we fact-check this? If the petition already had tens of thousands of signatures in the first half of January, it's possible it was launched in December. JustARandomSquid (talk) 10:30, 10 June 2026 (UTC) | ||
| Additionally, KP participated in elections in Zemun, New Belgrade, Voždovac, Lazarevac, | |||||
| 48 | n1info.rs | ✅ | |||
| They ended the boycott in September. | |||||
| 53 | n1info.rs | ✅ | |||
| Ideology and platform | |||||
| KP has criticised the European Union over its position on the Rio Tinto project in Loznica. | |||||
| 2 | b | rferl.org | ✅ | ||
| and has opposed the 2023 Ohrid Agreement. | |||||
| 71 | danas.rs | ❓ | Correct me if I'm wrong, but this doesn't mention the Ohrid agreement? JustARandomSquid (talk) 10:30, 10 June 2026 (UTC) | ||
| In December 2023, it gave out condoms to students as part of the international day against HIV. | |||||
| 81 | n1info.rs | ✅ | |||
| In Sremska Mitrovica, KP proposed the introduction of free textbooks. | |||||
| 44 | c | radar.nova.rs | ✅ | ||
- Finished with the spot check. JustARandomSquid (talk) 10:30, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
- All done.
- Ref 71: the colloquial name of the Ohrid Agreement is the Franco-German Agreement (francusko-nemački plan/sporazum). It is stated in the article. Ohrid Agreement is the formal name. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:41, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
- Whoops, didn't see that. It is indeed. JustARandomSquid (talk) 10:47, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm back. My apologies for the wait. JustARandomSquid (talk) 08:40, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- On the "related to the Rio Tinto project" (Law on Expropriation) thing, I don't think the current citation is very good — it contains two explicit denials that they're related from top government officials, and BBC never says they are in its own voice. JustARandomSquid (talk) 08:40, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- Removed. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 11:34, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- Looking at the lead, it's a good summary of the article, and almost everything is supported in the body. That being said, nowhere does it say that Manojlović is its "main representative in Serbian politics", just that he's the "head". Another unrelated thing I've noticed is that often the text says that Kreni-Promeni did something, but if you look at the source it was actually Manojlović who did it. I suggest you kill two birds with one stone and rephrase a few of these so that it's more accurate, and you can infer that he is indeed the main representative in Serbian politics. Also, I don't see their support for localism and local politics explicitly stated and sources anywhere? JustARandomSquid (talk) 08:40, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- Done: "text says that Kreni-Promeni did something, but if you look at the source it was actually Manojlović who did it."
- Localism is backed under the 'Local issues' section. But if you want, I can remove this from the infobox and/or lede. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 11:42, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- I think it's ok in the lead, but I wouldn't put it in the infobox if it isn't their defining feature according to sources. JustARandomSquid (talk) 16:10, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
- Otherwise, no copyright issues, no original research, and the article is neutral, focused and covers all major aspects of the topic. JustARandomSquid (talk) 08:40, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- Apart from the minor thing about localism, everything seems to be resolved here, so I'm going to pass this. Sorry for making this poor article wait even longer for the green plus! JustARandomSquid (talk) 16:13, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Beta Beta Beta (talk) 03:29, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
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- ... that Kreni-Promeni activists put up a billboard in Belgrade with attached cotton lungs that would gradually darken as they absorb polluted air? Source: https://n1info.rs/vesti/aktivisti-postavili-bilbord-s-pamucnim-plucima-za-koliko-dana-ce-pocrneti/
- ALT1: ... that Kreni-Promeni organised a petition against Rio Tinto? Source: https://n1info.rs/vesti/pokret-nakon-vuciceve-izjave-jos-20-000-ljudi-potpisalo-peticiju-o-rio-tintu/
- ALT2: ... that Kreni-Promeni helped organise the 2021–2022 Serbian environmental protests? Source: https://balkaninsight.com/2022/01/21/serbian-activists-doubt-govts-sincerity-in-cancelling-lithium-mine/bi/ https://n1info.rs/vesti/kreni-promeni-objavio-detaljan-spisak-blokade-na-vise-od-47-lokacija/
- ALT3: ... that Kreni-Promeni activists put up 20 billboards that measure air quality in Novi Sad in 2022? Source: https://n1info.rs/vesti/u-novom-sadu-postavljeno-20-bilborda-koji-mere-zagadjenje/
- ALT4: ... that Kreni-Promeni successfully led an initiative in Sremska Mitrovica to introduce free textbooks in schools? Source: https://n1info.rs/vesti/usvojena-inicijativa-kreni-promeni-o-besplatnim-udzbenicima-u-sremskoj-mitrovici/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of consorts and children of the Wanli Emperor, Template:Did you know nominations/Jimoto Saiko!
Improved to Good Article status by Vacant0 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 27 past nominations.
Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 25 June 2026 (UTC).
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