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Latest comment: 10 months ago by PacificDepths in topic New Page Patrol review

WordPress and Self-publishing sources

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This article uses two WordPress sources: one as a primary source for the subject's biography and one for the self-publishing source APS Books for several of the subject's publications. I chose to maintain these as they are in the relevant field and are not controversial (WP:SPS), as well as is not an exceptional claim nor involve claims about third parties (WP:ABOUTSELF).

If another editor disagrees, please edit at your own discretion and leave a comment so I can learn for next time. Thank you. Dmhll (talk) 14:44, 27 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Notability

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How does this person meet the standards of notability (general, or journalist/author specific) to have an article on Wikipedia? cc @Dmhll🌊PacificDepths (talk) 03:32, 28 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

This guideline applies to authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, and other creative professionals. Such a person is likely to be notable if: The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors;

She is a career journalist and reporter with the Sydney Morning Herald since 1986 and has won several authoring and journalism awards. Her book won Australia's top prize for excellence in journalism and non-fiction writing. Please read the article and the sources before asking a question that can be easily answered via a short skim. Dmhll (talk) 15:11, 28 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I am reviewing this page as part of Wikipedia:New Page Patrol. I'm not certain that the subject meets this threshold for notability. The criterion in WP:ANYBIO may fit better: The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor. — 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 23:13, 29 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

New Page Patrol review

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  1. Notability: Possibly WP:ANYBIO for winning the Walkley Book Award. I don't think WP:JOURNALIST is met. The notability of the subject feels borderline to me, especially with the lack of independent sources (see below).
  2. Issues:
    1. Peacock language: This article contained phrases such as "award-winning" which are explicitly discouraged by the Manual of Style. A subject's importance should be demonstrated through facts and sources.
    2. Excessive reliance on dependent sources: Much of the sourcing in this article comes from primary sources or sources with a connection with the subject, including the subject, their book publisher, their employer, and the Walkley Foundation (who has given an award to the subject). If we exclude these sources, there is not much of an article left: WP:ABOUTSELF says an article should be not based primarily on such sources.
  3. Future work: the book "The House" on the Sydney Opera House is notable and could have its own article, with reviews in multiple reliable sources: . This is much firmer footing to create an article around.

🌊PacificDepths (talk) 00:28, 30 September 2025 (UTC)Reply