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Latest comment: 8 hours ago by Richard Nevell in topic August 22 as the start date?

Edit request 15 March 2026

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Description of suggested change: Drop Site News should be replaced with the official reporting source from the Israeli Government Procurement Administration.

Official Source (partially hebrew): https://mr.gov.il/ilgstorefront/en/p/4000604070

It should also be added that $18M out of the $45M figure was specifically with YouTube and the other $27M with Google.

Also a clean up. No need to mention that the famine takes place during the Gaza war. This is already clear in the article.

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In September 2025, Drop Site News reported that Google had signed a six-month, $45 million contract with the Israeli government in June to push its propaganda during the Gaza war, including content that denied the famine.
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In June 2025, the Israeli Government Procurement Administration reported that Google and YouTube had signed a combined six-month, $45 million contract with the Israeli government to show video advertisements which included content that denied the famine.

~2026-16310-33 (talk) 07:35, 15 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: the source you provided is WP:PRIMARY and we prefer secondary sources. Per WP:RS I wouldn't replace the existing secondary source with a primary source. ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 09:06, 17 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Removal of relevant, sourced info

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My latest edit (the addition of three paragraphs under humanitarian aid) was reverted. While the second paragraph about GHF doesn't specifically mention the famine, the other two do, but were deleted as well. @Rainsagehow can the issue with this edit be addressed? ScottyNolan (talk) 08:10, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

my main issue is with the sourcing. most of the sources in the section don't actually mention famine/hunger/starvation. some of the sources are sub-par. some of the content doesn't really make allegations against Hamas that are obviously relevant.
if we are going to add a section detailing allegations that Hamas contributed to the Gaza Strip Famine, we should use high-quality sources that mention famine/hunger/starvation and that cover relevant allegations against Hamas. maybe we could start with finding sources we agree on.
how do you feel about these sources?
are there other sources you would like to use? Rainsage (talk) 05:12, 18 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 July 2026

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In the War Crimes and Genocide tab it says this:

The United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food, Michael Fakhri, stated Israel was using hunger as a weapon against Palestinians.[445] On 23 January, Alex De Waal stated Israel was committing a war crime through enforced starvation, stating, "An entire population being reduced to this stage is really unprecedented. We haven't seen it in Ethiopia, in Sudan and Yemen – pretty much anywhere else in the world."[446]

This statement is an opinion and a provably false opinion at that, as not even 500 starved in Gaza. While the Wikipedia is page for Famine in Yemen includes the following.

“ 223,000+ deaths from both "hunger and preventable diseases" by the end of 2021, per a UN Development Program estimate, with most of the victims being children under five years of age.[1] More than 90,000 children by 2018 [2][3][4][5]”

Based on this I believe you should remove the false information provided by Mr. Fakhri from the article. ~2026-40884-41 (talk) 07:45, 21 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Please provide sources that says the statement is false. Astropulse (talk) 07:48, 21 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

August 22 as the start date?

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all of the sources in this article from the IPC (which you can also see on their website) that I have looked at so far cite the famine as beginning during the then "current" time period of "July 1 - August 15". Their "Special Report" for this period states "This analysis factors in all data and information available up to 15 August 2025 and does not take into account the latest developments on the ground." The specific IPC Famine Review Committee report linked in the WHO article was indeed published on says in its review of conditions in Gaza Governate "The classification of Famine with reasonable evidence still applies at the end of the FRC analysis on 15 August." The Special Report also uses the language "As of 15 August famine is confirmed" or "famine is ongoing", but also includes this sentence: "For instance, the proportion of households experiencing extreme hunger doubled between May and July, surpassing the famine threshold in Gaza, Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis governorates." This last point is further expanded on by section "3.3.4 Acute Malnutrition Outcome" in the FRC Analysis report, showing that by at least one measure, the threshold for famine had indeed been surpassed by the second half of July.

Basically unless I'm missing something, I'm not sure what the impetus is for classifying a definite start date of August 22 is, as there seems to be plenty to indicate the famine had definitely started before then. By my estimation, the latest date one could cite would be the 15th, but especially considering the arbitrariness of this kind of classification and even moreso the difficulty of gathering data in an active war zone, I think a more general starting period of "August" or even possibly "late July" would be more appropriate. Any input is greatly appreciated! Gravelove (talk) 06:13, 10 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

I think the issue is that the announcement on 22 August has been taken as the start date. Your assessment matches my understanding. As another point of reference, the UN's press release emphasises the immediacy of the situation but doesn't give a start date. As the window of data looked at by the IPC covered July and August, I would support at the very least the start date being broadened to "August" and I'd also support "late July or August".
Similarly, the opening sentence says that the famine ended on 19 December. That again takes the date of publication of new data as the key date. The data is for the period 16 October to 30 November, so a more accurate description of the end date of famine conditions might be late October or November. 🏰 Richard Nevell (talk) 18:19, 10 August 2026 (UTC)Reply