Talk:EMD F59PH

Article creation

There seems to be no article to go with this picture. Joyous 17:58, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

Unsourced paragraph

I have removed the following unsourced paragraph:

The EMD F59PH suffers from excessive wax build-up on the upper cooling fans. The increased use of sweet high sulpher diesel leads to large deposits that require caution when removed. The engine exhaust design did not take into account the common use of rattan in evaporative cooling pads and thus the deposit of wax was accelerated. EMD has subcontracted an Iranian/Turkish firm to remove the sweet wax from the rattan baskets and remarket the by-products.

Please find a source for this (and some clarification might be nice too). Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 00:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Weight?

How much do they weigh? A rather important (and basic) bit of information in an article about a locomotive. 64.185.130.217 (talk) 16:06, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Fleet updates for both locomotives

The following has taken place for both fleets, but of course no one's allowing me to add it until I find the sources. If someone finds the proper sources, please add the following information:

• Metrolink has retired all of its F59PHs AND F59PHIs, except for one that is now used solely as a switcher.
• Metra 94-96 are rumored to have been delivered and now in service, so there should be 6 in the fleet. If that's not true, please change the numbers back to 97-99 until 94-96 arrive and enter revenue service.

--Davidng913 (talk) 01:57, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Discrepancies

I've noticed two discrepancies while copyediting the article:

• It's fairly well established that GO Transit bought 49 F59PH locomotives and Metrolink 23 - a total of 72. However, the article previously said 73 were produced. I think that's just an error and the actual value is 72.
• Reliable sources do not agree on whether the F59PHI has 3,000 or 3,200 horsepower:
  • 3,000: FRA study, Metrolink fleet plan, Brian Solomon re Sound Transit
  • 3,200: Amtrak history, Brian Solomon, GM ad, Railway Age, WSDOT fleet plan

I'm not quite sure what to do here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:45, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Greg McDonnell's The Field Guide to Modern Diesel Locomotives says both the F59PH and F59PHI have 3,000 horsepower. Meanwhile, the foamers at the locomotive fandom site claim that the F59PH is 3,000 hp, while the F59PHI is 3,200 hp. "The differences between these two locomotives are only skin-deep. Most features introduced on the F59PH, like the separate HEP genset, were carried over to the F59PHI. However, differences include: A lighter, streamlined body (made of fiberglass and composite material) An increase in horsepower (12V710G3C-EC engine compared to the F59PH's 12V710G3A) 3200hp vs 3000hp" I wonder if some were re-engined to 3200 hp? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Reorganization

I think it would make sense to reorganize (and expand) this article similar to GE E60, which also deals with multiple models of the same design. Mackensen (talk) 03:51, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

No objection from me. (Side note: I know you're not a big fan of original owner tables, but I think this one is cited well enough to keep.) Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:07, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

I don't mind such rosters with passenger locomotives (see EMD F40PH); they're easier to source and shorter than their freight equivalents. Mackensen (talk) 12:55, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

The problem I find is that your garden variety railfan is tempted to add all sorts of unsourced detail about paint schemes, changes in ownership, and other such items. At Providence and Worcester Railroad#Rolling stock, I used the snapshot provided by the 2016 feature in Trains Magazine with minimal additional detail. As long as they're maintained, there's not much issue with having original owners sections. It's when an article goes unmaintained (it's like mowing the grass, really) and railfan cruft piles up that we run into issues. Having more information on the service lives of the locomotives strikes me as appropriate as well. When I rewrote EMD FL9 I found a wealth of information on the locomotives' very long careers. If the FL9 article were organized like the EMD F59PH article, it would be jarring how much information would be missing. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:32, 3 February 2026 (UTC)