Talk:Druze

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Discussing changes suggested to introduction

Please lets discuss these points on the current Druze article versus my suggested changes :

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The Druze faith is an esoteric monotheistic religion based on the teachings of several Ismaili figures like Hamza ibn-'Ali ibn-Ahmad and Al-Muqtana Baha'uddin who were influenced by Greek philosophers such as Plato ,Aristotle and Plotinus.

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The Druze faith is a monotheistic and Abrahamic religion based on the teachings of high Islamic figures like Hamza ibn-'Ali ibn-Ahmad and Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, and Greek philosophers such as Plato and Aristotle.

Reason for Edit : - The main distiction about the Druze faith is being esoteric Batini this should be mentioned

- Druze are not an Abrahamic religion but monotheist , the position of Abraham is different for the Druze than the three abrahamic faiths

- high Islamic figures is not accurate , the prophet mohammad is a high islamic figure , Hamza was a preacher , Al-Hakim was the Fatimid Caliph , a more historically accurate and appropriate description is Ismaili

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and other philosophies and beliefs, creating a distinct syncretic and secretive theology that is passed on through initiation

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and secretive theology known to interpret esoterically religious scriptures, and to highlight the role of the mind and truthfulness.

Reason for Edit :

Role of the mind and truthfulness is an over simplification of the Druze theology and its the universal mind nous rather than mind as human mind

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Druze are theologically distinct from Muslims due to their eclectic system of doctrines such as the belief in theophany and reincarnation . , although Al Azhar of Egypt recognized them in 1959 as one of the Islamic sects in the Al-Azhar Shia Fatwa.

− − − The Druze were subjected to persecution due to political and religious reasons during the Fatimid, Mamluks and Ottomans rule . Most recently, Druze were targeted by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and Al-Qaeda in order to cleanse Syria and neighboring countries of non-Islamic influence.

Reason for Edit : Its important to mention main difference between Druze and orthodox islam as well the source of Fatwa

Also subsituted the persecution paragraph with a summary since its the introduction and details are found in body — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiram111 (talk • contribs)

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Edit request 8 May 2026

Description of suggested change: Correcting the misidentification of the community's religious status and name origins. The term "Druze" is an exonym derived from Nashtakin al-Darazi, a figure the community officially denounced. Their self-identification is Al-Muwahhidun al-Muslimun, emphasizing their status as an esoteric monotheistic Islamic sect. The current text fails to mention the rejection of al-Darazi and the community's primary Islamic identity.

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Although the Druze faith developed from Isma'ilism, Druze do not identify as Muslims.[29][21][30]

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While the community originated from Isma'ilism, they identify as '''Al-Muwahhidun al-Muslimun''' (the Unitarian Muslims), an esoteric branch of Islam centered on the doctrine of *Al-Tawhid*. The name "Druze" is an external label derived from '''Nashtakin al-Darazi''', whom the community has historically rejected as a heretic; as such, they do not follow his teachings and emphasize their identity as a sect within the 73 branches of Islam.

Mershidomar13 (talk) 10:37, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Day Creature (talk) 17:36, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

Capitalising Faith

The article referred to the Druze faith. @GenoV84 has changed every mention to "Druze Faith" with a capital F, adding a footnote "The Druze Faith is referred to using the capital "F"" citing Abu-Izzeddin, Nejla M. (1993) [1984]. "The Druze Faith". The Druzes: A New Study of Their History, Faith, and Society. Leiden: E. J. Brill. pp. 101–121. doi:10.1163/9789004450349_013. ISBN 978-90-04-45034-9.. They reinstated those changes and that footnote when they were reverted but with no explanation and without gaining consensus on this talk page.

Abu-Izzeddin does not state in that chapter that the Druze faith is referred to with a capital "F" and does not do so; the chapter begins "The Druze faith arose in the bosom of the Fatimid creed." She uses "Druze faith" three more times in the chapter, but not "Druze Faith" with a capiatl "F".

I will restore the lower-case "faith" and remove the footnote. @GenoV84, please don't reinstate them without gaining consensus here, which will require WP:RSs. NebY (talk) 18:07, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Removal of the word “Druzite”

From what I can tell, this is not a real word that is applied to the Druze people/community. It may have been added in due to the existence of other such nouns/adjectives, especially for Middle Eastern peoples, but this seemingly is not a proper adjective for the Druze people. It should be replaced with Druze across this page. If this is done, it can also be changed elsewhere on Wikipedia. Or if there are sources for this word as a term for the Druze, that would suffice. Pigter (talk) 07:48, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

The word exists but it is rare. It is confusing to use it alongside the common name Druze. I removed it. Zero^talk 09:26, 8 July 2026 (UTC)