Talk:Diss track

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Bob Dylan's Like A Rolling Stone? The Velvet Underground's Femme Fatale? Paul McCartney's Too Many People? John Lennon's How Do You Sleep?? Certainly these tracks are considered disses and most definitely deserve a place in this article, predating the likes of Roxanne Shante by decades. 70.72.223.251 (talk) 04:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Or Carly Simon's You're So Vain. Banjodog (talk) 21:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Non Hip-Hop songs

in an early form of this article, non hip-hop songs were included such as Guns & Roses "get in the ring" along with songs in the latter discussion were included, but somebody edited this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.90.45.197 (talk) 02:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Spelling

I just want to know since when is dis spelled with two s's? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.212.223.233 (talk) 17:37, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

It started as "dis." Somewhere along the way, people started spelling it with a double s for some reason. 2601:248:4B00:8850:0:0:0:65D5 (talk) 17:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera

Didn't Britney dissed Christina?Or didn't Britney dissed Chrisitna?--Nikinikolananov (talk) 20:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Dis not Diss

It is supposed to be spelled "dis", not "diss." Short for disrespect. "Diss" has become accepted by people who don't know better, but it's still wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.7.148.3 (talk) 14:25, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

disrespect or discredit (?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.79.214.6 (talk) 15:28, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

As "diss" has become the widely-used and widely-accepted spelling of the term in written speech, I vote keep the current page spelling "diss". --Shrinkydinks (talk) 02:04, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

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The history section

I wouldn't know enough to make a change, but I'm shocked that there is no mention of hip hop or rap in the history section. Maybe we should add something talking about how diss tracks were a favorite in the 80's and 90's rap scenes and maybe talk about some notable beefs like all the stuff that happened surrounding NWA. 96.241.36.26 (talk) 16:24, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Absence of Hip-Hop songs

Since the list of notable diss tracks was removed (I believe rightfully) in June 2019, there has been a remarkable absence of mention of many of the most important tracks in this genre. I believe this can be remedied by building out the history section of the article—I just wanted to highlight that is is a topic of active need for this article. --Shrinkydinks (talk) 02:08, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

If you can openly say without any qualms what Drake accused Kendrick of, you should also openly write out what Kendrick called Drake of liking young girls and not going to jail because of what of what those people do to those type of people who are accused of that. ~2026-20517-31 (talk) 09:15, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Internet meme

Any particular reason why the link internet meme doesn’t include the ‘s’? –ToxiBoi! _(public) 18:27, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and added the 's' due to no objection. If the exclusion is needed, feel free to add it back. –ToxiBoi! ^(contribs) 06:53, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Queen

Queen is heavy metal now? Really? SpellingMitsake (talk) 23:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

According to the source used at the article, that particular song is. It's not unusual for a band to record songs that fall in genres outside of what the band is commonly known for, and of course the whole genre thing is impossible for everyone to agree on anyway. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:14, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

The sidebar of the AllMusic website is not considered reliable for genres according to WP:RSMUSIC, so I've changed the genre here to "hard rock" for consistency with the "Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...)" article. — Newslinger talk 14:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 8 November 2025

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The result of the move request was: moved. Favonian (talk) 23:09, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

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Diss (music) → Diss track – Per WP:NATDIS and WP:COMMONNAME. The current title implies the article is about the "diss" itself (i.e. an insult) rather than the type of track; meanwhile the article is explicitly about the latter (as defined in the lead sentence). Furthermore, the article consistently refers to it as a "diss track" above any other name. Loytra^✨ 22:03, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

• Support: per nom. This would revert an undiscussed move from 2017. I'm also open to any alternative titles. Thanks, 1isall (he/him) (talk | contribs) 22:30, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Support per nom. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk | contribs) 04:17, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

Support per nom. ~AnotherFriendlyHuman (talk) (contribs) 14:27, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. More WP:NATURAL, and while I don't have any raw usage data on hand, I agree anecdotally that "diss track" is the typical phrasing used for this topic. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 21:50, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
• Comment. The article refers to it as a "diss track," as it was previously called that, but it was renamed to its current title in 2017 by @Loginnigol, who wrote "it can be non-track too": . I partly agree with that. A track is something that is recorded and distributed as part of a release. A diss could also be released as a music video, which is not really a track. Solidest (talk) 06:40, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. Reason is obvious as Solidest remarked. A diss can also take place in (for example) live improvised music performance. The word "track" is nothing other than a specific audio recording. For example "Mary had a little lamb" is a song, not a track. So if I say "there is a Mary had a little lamb track", then I would be referring only to some specific recording of that song. —Loginnigol 06:49, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

  I can see the argument, but I think a diss in the form of a track is at the core of the topic here—almost all of the notable and defining examples of the form I can think of are specific tracks. Also, the term "diss track" is in fairly common use even in scenarios where it's not strictly accurate; one of the sources on the article describes "Yankee Doodle" as a diss track, and news articles on Kendrick Lamar's Pop Out concert last year use the term "diss track" even when referring to songs in the context of their being performed live (Vulture, XXL). ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:54, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom and other supporters. To the extent that a diss can occur in, for example, an unrecorded live performance, that can easily be covered here as a closely related concept if necessary. Such occurrence aren't a substantial focus of the article as it stands, aren't demonstrated to be a notable category or phenomenon, and I agree with ModernDayTrilobite's assessment that "diss track" can be used in these related contexts. Objections based on "non-tracks" aren't grounded in the article's content or reliable sources that discuss the topic.—Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 23:30, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
• Support because does anybody say diss instead of a diss track? --Fm3060 (talk) 18:52, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

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