Talk:Beechcraft Model 18

Madagascar?

I've done some comparing and I think the aircraft involved in the movie: Madagascar might be the Beechcraft 18 in the article. should it be included in the article? Or should I do more research, or is it not important enough to include? because the plane in the movie could just be a "generic World War II aircraft." Taffy boeing b 17 (talk) 20:41, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:AIRPOP, aircraft appearing in fictional media should be added to the aircraft in fiction article, not the article about the aircraft itself. However, the aircraft's identity and role should be properly sourced and cited, which is probably an insurmountable order for a very cartoonish animated film starring talking anthropomorphic animals. Someone directly involved in creating the film would probably need to have gone on the record saying that it's deliberately modeled after a Beech 18. (Incidentally, the film's online fan community seems to think it's a Lockheed Model 14 Super Electra, noting the unique empennage, its overall size, and the number of side windows.) Carguychris (talk) 05:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Yeah. I had thought about the Electras, and they might be a better contender, but I don't think I have the will or the power to try to find and ask anyone involved. It could be a 'reference' to Amelia Earhart's model 10, but the (passengers), location and size/looks of the plane doesn't make that idea very viable. Cheers tho <3 Taffy boeing b 17 (talk) 16:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

April 2026 updates

@Wikieditorjs Thank you for contacting me on my Talk page; I am moving the discussion here so that we may work together to improve this Beech 18 article.

[you wrote] ...in the section about operators, it said that "as of 2012 Beechcraft H18S It is still widely used in airlines", Given that this information is outdated, this started to change from 2015-present

That is a fair comment, and that could be a reason to tag that individual statement with {{update}}. However, in the fast-changing world of aviation, almost every article will have outdated information, and tagging everything will disguise the ones that really need attention. I would argue that the A380 Airbus article is a higher priority, particularly as a result of Covid-19 when they were the first aircraft type to be parked up. What has happened since then? By comparison, this Beech 18 article is some way down the food chain (in my opinion).

Returning to the statement in question, the actual wording is

As of 2012, the Beechcraft Model 18 remains popular with air charter companies and small feeder airlines worldwide.

It is a very vague statement that says very little. What exactly does 'popular' mean? What are the actual numbers? Is it likely that those numbers changed significantly since then? You cannot really 'update' a statement that doesn't say anything in the first place. As a start, I would propose the following change.

As of 2012, the Beechcraft Model 18 was still used by air charter companies and small feeder airlines worldwide.

There is nothing wrong with retaining the information that was relevant in 2012; even though it is now 14 years out-of-date, it still tells us something. For instance, consider the following;

As of 2012, the Beechcraft Model 18 Airbus A380 had a backlog of orders, and was in use worldwide.

We can then add an update;

As of 2026, there are only a handful of Airbus A380s still flying...,

The two statements together provide a better picture; it isn't always about replacing an old statement with the latest news. Of course we can only add the update if we have a source that actually supports that statement!

So, what else needs updating here at this Beechcraft Model 18 article?
WendlingCrusader (talk) 10:33, 3 April 2026 (UTC)