Talk:Avia Solutions Group
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"Subsidiaries" section
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Would someone kindly add a new "Subsidiaries" section to the article with subsections for FL Technics and Baltic Ground Services (with content added from the drafts for the two companies). Both subjects failed AfC submissions as reviewers believe that not enough content exists for them to merit their own articles, so for now it would be best to have the merged to the Avia Solutions Group article. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 21:09, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Reply 13-NOV-2018
[edit]- The information found within the Baltic Ground Services draft was found by K.e.coffman to contain advertising-like material. That same restriction which prevents it from being created under AFC also prevents it from being added as content, per WP:NOTADVERTISING.
- The information found under FL Technics was deemed by Robert McClenon as being possibly allowed for merging into the Avia Solutions Group article. For that to occur, a verbatim description of the text to be added needs to be proposed here on the talk page. Additionally, of the 31 references supplied in the FL Technics draft, an editor at the TeaHouse noted
the ones I did check are not to "reliable independent published sources with in-depth discussion of the subject". If you have found any such sources, I suggest you make them easier for a reviewer to find by removing most of the others.
While not strictly being a content restriction, the suggestion found there regarding reference accessibility seems to be a prudent one for our purposes here.
When ready to proceed with the requested information, please open a new {{request edit}} template at your earliest convenience. Regards, Spintendo 09:12, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- This appears to be a case that illustrates a problematic side effect of the rules on paid editing. Since paid editors are prohibited from directly editing an article in which they have a conflict of interest, they simply throw in a generalized edit request that says essentially, "We are not allowed to do this, but we have a right to have it done for us. You do it for us." Volunteer editors have every right to just say no, that there are limits to how much assistance they will give paid editors. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:49, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
FL Technics history updates.
[edit]Ahunt, as much as I value your contribution to the Wikipedia, the edits you make on FL Technics Wikipedia article are not valid. The company did expand by opening new hangars how is that a promotion? The company also created a training division which is an integral part of the company. Other companies like Boeing, Airbus in their wiki articles are allowed to disclose such information, whereas FL Technics can only disclose the date it was founded. Why 2011 entry about Storm Aviation acquisition is okay and the one from 2020 about Flash Line Maintenance once is not okay anymore? I would kindly ask you to explain or rather write the history as you see fit. The explanation of "STILL A LOT OF WP:SPAM; WP:TRIVIA and WP:PROMOTION" does not give clear indication where the problem lies, because Storm Aviation and Flash Line maintenance acquisitions are worded in the same way, but one is not accepted, although other one is...— Preceding unsigned comment added by Spontiac (talk • contribs) 07:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
New Draft for article
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Hi, My name is Agne, and I work for Avia Solutions Group. The current article appears to have been translated and is somewhat difficult to read. I have gone through existing reliable sourcing and created an alternative draft that focuses on the company's history and business model. The new draft is clearer and more easily understandable. You can see it here. I propose that the existing page be replaced with this new version. I am aware of Wikipedia policies for COI editors, and I am excited to work together with the community to improve this entry moving forward. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance. Thank you.Agne for ASG (talk) 13:34, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Agne for ASG Hello. A very quick review suggests we should not do a full replacement, since your new version lacks for example the infobox. Some of your version elements are certainly better (prehistory??), that said should be really remove references to 2005? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I integrated the requested content, but kept the existing history. I also added some better sources, and kept and expanded the subsidiaries section. STEMinfo (talk) 22:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi STEMinfo. Thanks for implementing the draft, and also adding a few updates to the article. I appreciate it. All the best, Agne for ASG (talk) 06:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I integrated the requested content, but kept the existing history. I also added some better sources, and kept and expanded the subsidiaries section. STEMinfo (talk) 22:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
History update
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Hello. Could you kindly add the following short paragraph to the end of the History section as an update to that section.
- In 2024, ASG announced plans to expand to the United States, partnering with Impact Investments, an investment firm headed by former US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. In addition to financial support, the firm will advise on further strategic development in the US.[1]
References
- ↑ Lahiri, Indrabati (4 April 2024). "Dublin-based aviation investor Avia Solutions seeks to expand US base". EuroNews.
Pinging STEMinfo who helped a great deal with this article. All the best, ~~~~ Agne for ASG (talk) 13:44, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Implemented ✅. +JMJ+ (talk) 12:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi +JMJ+. Thanks so much for implementing my edit request. It is greatly appreciated. Kind regards. Agne for ASG (talk) 09:28, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Update history section
[edit]Hi. Please add the following information as updates to the end of the History section:
- The company inaugurated its first Global Services Center in Manila, the Philippines, in December 2024. It supports the technical, flight operations and MRO organizations of Avia Solutions Group.[1]
- In February 2025, Brasil's aviation authority (ANAC), certified Avion Express Brasil, a subsidiary of Avion Express, a division of Avia Solutions Group, with an AOC, becoming Brasil's first ACMI operator.[2]
- Skytrans, an Australian subsidiary of Avia Solutions Group, received its AOC in March 2025, allowing it to begin ACMI operations. As a result, Skytrans added an Airbus A319 to its fleet of aircraft.[3]
References
- ↑ "Avia Solutions Group launches Manila-based Global Services Centre". Aerotime. 11 December 2024.
- ↑ Orban, André (26 February 2025). "Avion Express Brasil secures AOC, launching first dedicated ACMI operations in Brazil". aviation24.be.
- ↑ "Skytrans receives AOC for ACMI operations with Airbus A319". MRO Business Today. 3 March 2025.
Thank you. ~~~~ Agne for ASG (talk) 08:37, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
Done @Agne for ASG: Except the first source looked like a company source, so I found a better one. In the future you can include the COI edit template so others can respond as well in a more timely fashion. STEMinfo (talk) 17:46, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi STEMinfo. Thanks for implementing the edit request, and in the future, I hope to remember to add the COI edit template. All the best, ~~~~ Agne for ASG (talk) 07:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Paid editing
[edit]I would like to raise attention to the fact pages related to Gediminas Ziemelis, Avia Solutions Group, FL Technics and other related pages are rife with paid editors. Some disclosed, for example:
And some undisclosed paid editors, for example:
- User:Spontiac (user talk; contributions)
- User:EdvinasA (user talk; contributions)
- User:Mantas.svirplys (user talk; contributions)
- User:Tadas1980 (user talk; contributions)
- User:Stugys (user talk; contributions)
There are also numerous blocked accounts for rule violations and Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry accounts, for example:
- User:84.15.180.8 (user talk; contributions)
- User:Eimukas22 (user talk; contributions)
- User:Jklmnopr (user talk; contributions)
- User:Lasto4ka1 (user talk; contributions)
University of The Purple Unicorn (talk) 10:01, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
Update to History and Subsidiaries
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Hello. I hope all is well. Please update the History and Subsidiaries sections with the following information:
- At the end of the History section, directly after the last sentence, please add the following recent developments:
- Two other subsidiaries of Avia Solutions Group received their AOC status in October 2025. Thai SmartLynx, making it the first Thailand-based ACMI airline,[1] and Ascend Airways Malaysia, allowing it to begin operations in November, 2025.[2]
- There are also a few items that need to be deleted because they are no longer subsidiaries of Avia Solutions Group.
- In the Business model section, please delete:SmarLynx Airlines
- In the Subsidiaries section list, please delete the following four names: Bluebird Nordic, SmartLynx, SmartLynx Airlines Estonia, and SmartLynx Airlines Malta.
References
- ↑ Sarkar, Tuhin (31 October 2025). "hai SmartLynx Secures AOC, Becomes Thailand's First ACMI Airline, Revolutionizing Regional Aviation". Travel and Tour World.
- ↑ Hardee, Howard (30 October 2025). "Wet-lease specialist Ascend Airways Malaysia obtains approval to begin 737 cargo flights". Flight Global.
Thanks so much. ~~~~ Agne for ASG (talk) 09:45, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have sources that say that you have sold/spun off/abandoned your subsidiaries? Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 17:36, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Greetings Szmenderowiecki. Here is a source that confirms that ASG sold SmartLynx Latvia. https://www.travelextra.ie/management-buys-out-smartlynx-airlines-from-avia-solutions-group/ There is a planned consolidation and rebranding of SmartLynx Estonia and Malta https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/159686-avia-solutions-sells-smartlynx-to-consolidate-european-aocs and https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/avia-solutions-divests-smartlynxs-latvian-arm-and-plans-to-consolidate-other-european-divisions/165006.article This source confirms that Bluebird Nordic is no longer in business. https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/139898-icelands-bbn-airlines-nordic-surrenders-permits-ceases-ops I hope that helps you to implement the edit request. Let me know if you need additional sources. Thanks for your consideration. ~~~~ Agne for ASG (talk) 12:14, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Copy that, I'll return to your request shortly; if I don't please ping me. Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 01:46, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
Done Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 04:29, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks again Szmenderowiecki. Much obliged for all your help. Regards, ~~~~ Agne for ASG (talk) 13:45, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Copy that, I'll return to your request shortly; if I don't please ping me. Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 01:46, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Greetings Szmenderowiecki. Here is a source that confirms that ASG sold SmartLynx Latvia. https://www.travelextra.ie/management-buys-out-smartlynx-airlines-from-avia-solutions-group/ There is a planned consolidation and rebranding of SmartLynx Estonia and Malta https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/159686-avia-solutions-sells-smartlynx-to-consolidate-european-aocs and https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/avia-solutions-divests-smartlynxs-latvian-arm-and-plans-to-consolidate-other-european-divisions/165006.article This source confirms that Bluebird Nordic is no longer in business. https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/139898-icelands-bbn-airlines-nordic-surrenders-permits-ceases-ops I hope that helps you to implement the edit request. Let me know if you need additional sources. Thanks for your consideration. ~~~~ Agne for ASG (talk) 12:14, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
Update with new CEO
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Please update the article with the name of the new CEO of the company, Zilvinas Lapinskas.
- In the Infobox replace the name Jonas Janukenas with Zilvinas Lapinskas in the Key people parameter.
- At the end of the "Business model" section, again, replace the name Jonas Janukenas with the name of the new CEO, Zilvinas Lapinskas, and replace the old source with this source: https://www.aircargonews.net/people/2026/07/avia-solutions-group-appoints-new-chief-executive/
Thank you. Agne for ASG (talk) 08:37, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
Done STEMinfo (talk) 19:05, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hi STEMinfo. Thanks so much. All the best, ~~~~ Agne for ASG (talk) 06:19, 3 August 2026 (UTC)