Talk:Violetear
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Requested move 27 August 2026
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| It was proposed in this section that Violetear be renamed and moved to Colibri.
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Violetear → Colibri – Colibri is the formal scientific genus name used by authoritative ornithological sources, whereas "violetear" is primarily a vernacular element in the English names of the individual species (e.g. Mexican Violetear, Brown Violetear). I have not found comparably strong evidence that "Violetear" is an established English common name specifically for the genus as a taxonomic group. Colibri is therefore the more precise and unambiguous title. ~2026-46636-84 (talk) 13:32, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Requested move 28 August 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 01:06, 21 September 2026 (UTC)
Violetear → Colibri – Colibri is the formal scientific genus name used by authoritative ornithological sources, whereas "violetear" is primarily a vernacular element in the English names of the individual species (e.g. Mexican Violetear, Brown Violetear). I have not found comparably strong evidence that "Violetear" is an established English common name specifically for the genus as a taxonomic group. Colibri is therefore the more precise and unambiguous title. ~2026-46879-11 (talk) 15:06, 28 August 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 20:15, 4 September 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Robloxguest3 (talk)
20:42, 12 September 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. squawk7700 (talk) 20:54, 20 September 2026 (UTC)
- Support - While a birder might say "I saw a violetear" when describing their activities, that's probably the only context the term would be used in place of the genus, or a species common name. This complies with WP:FAUNA naming. - In solidarity, UtherSRG (talk) 15:18, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
- The Spanish word colibrí is more general, so this is quite confusing. I'm inclined to oppose and see the dab page moved back. No objection to Colibri (genus) or something. Srnec (talk) 02:08, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- We generally do not let usages in other languages impact decisions in this language. - In solidarity, UtherSRG (talk) 13:56, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- Are scientific names 'this language'? We always italicize them. :-) In any case, the dab page shows that the word has been used frequently in English and I suspect with the general meaning in mind, as from, e.g., French colibri. I definitely oppose and support reverting the previous move. Srnec (talk) 20:37, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- @Srnec You should propose it at Talk:Colibri (disambiguation). It is a separate topic from this one. ~2026-47795-45 (talk) 22:44, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- It cannot be formally proposed simultaneously. Srnec (talk) 00:55, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- @Srnec You should propose it at Talk:Colibri (disambiguation). It is a separate topic from this one. ~2026-47795-45 (talk) 22:44, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- Are scientific names 'this language'? We always italicize them. :-) In any case, the dab page shows that the word has been used frequently in English and I suspect with the general meaning in mind, as from, e.g., French colibri. I definitely oppose and support reverting the previous move. Srnec (talk) 20:37, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- We generally do not let usages in other languages impact decisions in this language. - In solidarity, UtherSRG (talk) 13:56, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose. They're a coherent group and (very importantly, unlike the concurrent Parrotbill move discussion) they all share the same unique English group name; Srnec's point about the wider use of colibri in Spanish (and some other languages) for any hummingbird is also important. Though I'd prefer [the five] Violeteers... 😂 - MPF (talk) 00:04, 13 September 2026 (UTC)