Talk:Marie Burde

Teahouse

I moved the article from user space to draft space following this discussion on Teahouse. I am losing steam tonight, but I will check in tomorrow.–CaroleHenson (talk) 07:43, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, for moving it

i try to add the translation of the image description. And try to notify the users in the teahouse discussion and then i will be away for a few hours. Aberlin2 (talk) 07:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Great! It's past my bedtime, I will talk to you in the morning.–CaroleHenson (talk) 08:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

German Sources

Here is a german local news article about the naming of a street with her name. There are alo more infos which are probaply not in the other sources https://bernau-live.de/nachrichten/bernau/schoenow/widerstandskaempfer-mit-strassennamen-in-schoenow-geehrt Aberlin2 (talk) 08:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Now used. Valereee (talk) 14:36, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Another local news article behind a Paywall about the storys behind the newly named streets https://www.moz.de/lokales/bernau/bauen-in-bernau-neue-strassennamen-in-schoenow-_-das-sind-die-geschichten-hinter-den-namen-68919525.html Aberlin2 (talk) 08:09, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

another source or link is a more scinitfic publication by the state institute for political education where she is mentioned in an overview article about opposition to the nazi violence https://www.bpb.de/shop/zeitschriften/izpb/widerstand-gegen-den-nationalsozialismus-330/232803/widerstand-als-reaktion-auf-krieg-und-ns-gewaltverbrechen/ Aberlin2 (talk) 08:19, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Now used. Valereee (talk) 14:47, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

More sources about the other Persons mentioned in the article: https://www.stolpersteine-berlin.de/de/neue-hochstr/10/recha-joseph Aberlin2 (talk) 08:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

another German source about her life story https://www.juedische-allgemeine.de/unsere-woche/gerechte-unter-den-voelkern/ Aberlin2 (talk) 09:25, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

There is an documentation oft the text on local memorial plates. The local city has a article abut the naming of a street with her name. this further verifies the birth and death and her live in this area date but does not verify place of birth or death https://www.bernau.de/de/rathaus-service/aktuelles/stadtnachrichten/artikel-schoenow-gedenken-an-vier-widerstandskaempfer.html Aberlin2 (talk) 10:05, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Now used. Valereee (talk) 14:54, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Place of Birth

There are sources for her death place in Berlin but for now i find no sources. The german wikipedia claims (without source) she is born in berlin and i think it is likley because her parents apperently lived in berlin but I understand that this could be improved. I added a note on the missing source for the birthplace to the German wikipedia Aberlin2 (talk) 09:46, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

the place of birth is in this source.

it's Berlin

https://www.gedenkstaette-stille-helden.de/stille-helden/biografien/biografie/detail-70?cHash=cbba834ee90d57f6158e606b010e68b9 Aberlin2 (talk) 20:47, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Aberlin2, I had already found sources for her date of birth. They are at the first sentence of the "Marie Burde#Life" section.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:52, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Aktives Museum source

Unfortunately this is a PDF in German, so I can't use it to check assertions. Valereee (talk) 13:30, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Valereee, Can we copy-and-paste content from the relevant page(s) into google.translate? I'd be happy to do that.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:44, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

I don't know why we couldn't, if you want to undertake that! Valereee (talk) 15:46, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, missed that you'd pinged, @CaroleHenson! Valereee (talk) 15:47, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Okay, great, Valereee! I will get started.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:52, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh, @CaroleHenson, the only concern is that unless it's public domain you can't paste it here, you'd have to read it offline and summarize here. Valereee (talk) 15:57, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Yep, got it, Valereee. I pasted in the source info and I will be using {{sfn|Kosmala|August 2015|p=}} starting with page 12. It's chock full of information - like her dates, parents, etc. If anyone wants to start on other pages, that's cool. I am happy to work this all myself, too.–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:03, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Great, @CaroleHenson! I'd gotten as far as I could get, definitely have at it! I think if that article covers her that well you could move it to article space at any time! Valereee (talk) 16:17, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Sounds great, Valereee, it's a very interesting story!–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

In use

I have been afraid that I would have an edit conflict, so I added the "in use" tag so I can add more content at a time. I should be about an hour or two on the magazine. If there's any concern about that, please ping me. Thanks!–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:58, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Done

@Valereee and Aberlin2:, I am done. I moved it to article space and unhid the categories. If you can make it better through edits, moving things around etc., that would be great! This was a really fun article to work on. Thanks for letting me have a go at the in-depth article about Burde. I think she'd be shining down and smiling.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:22, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

@CaroleHenson Thank you very much! Looks good. Yes, it is an inspiring biography. Maybe I will add some details later. I think a good picture of the street sign with her name and the explanatory sign of the city still nice. Let's see if I can manage that. Aberlin2 (talk) 04:24, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

as far as I can see, there is now also at least one new source that is not yet in the German article. I'll try to transfer that.

One thing I can't do: In the language selection menu is still missing the link between the German and English article, that would be good if it would be added. I have not succeeded in doing that so far. Aberlin2 (talk) 04:35, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Okay, the link between the Languages and the wikidata object seems to work now. Aberlin2 (talk) 04:43, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

@Aberlin2, a robot comes through and connects the wikidata items to create the language links. It sometimes takes a while. Valereee (talk) 11:31, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Wow, @CaroleHenson, that looks amazing! That could be a GA tomorrow, I bet. Valereee (talk) 11:43, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks so much. And I started Rolf Joseph yesterday, too. Have more to add. It was fun! And, the robot came along yesterday and connected the article to wikidata.–CaroleHenson (talk) 14:57, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

I thought he might be notable, too! Valereee (talk) 15:13, 9 April 2023 (UTC)