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PSYCLONES (band) page

Hi, I am trying to keep the page PSYCLONES (band) page. For some reason it was set for deletion. The page was made over 20 years ago. User, I have no idea. But I would like to make sure the page is not deleted. Psyclones is a note worthy band, and one of the first experimental industrial bands of the 80's. Please help to keep it on. Jcfbkl (talk) 17:01, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia only carries articles on subjects which meet our notability criteria (that would be WP:BAND for the Psyclones). THe draft provides zero evidence of this, and you need to provide evidence to the contrary. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:12, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed) ~2026-32824-88 (talk) 17:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

A member of the band wrote this, not me. Jcfbkl (talk) 17:45, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

How do you know that a member of the band wrote this? Do you have a personal connection to the band? CodeTalker (talk) 19:23, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

The evidence is LPs, CD's and cassete still available on the internet from various music labels. Subterranean Records, and Permanent Records. Also Ladd-Frith Music, plus Amazon Music and Bandcamp. What more proof do you need? Many many other bands don't even have one record out and they exist on Wikipedia. Why is more proof needed?? Jcfbkl (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

The article originally written about 20 years ago on Wikipedia. The evidence of proof is the band is a viable note worthy band of the 80's that help lift the genre of experimental industrial music to the whole world. Jcfbkl (talk) 17:47, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia's rules were far less strict than they are nowadays. If it couldn't pass in 2006 then it probably won't pass now. GarethBaloney (talk) 18:15, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

It has been updated and all has been fixed. Please remove the discussion of deletion tag. Than k you. Jcfbkl (talk) 18:24, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

AfD deletion tags do not get removed as long as the deletion debate is ongoing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^MUSHROOM 18:33, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

I think it is over. Thank you. Jcfbkl (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

It is not over. I just commented on it, and based on timestamps the deletion debate only just started. (Deletion debates run a full week barring a swift and overwhelming unanimous consensus for one outcome.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^MUSHROOM 18:48, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Jcfbkl.

I'm afraid that existence is not enough, and nor are primary sources.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

Unless such independent, in-depth sources exist, there is literally nothing that can go into an article, and no article is possible. ColinFine (talk) 19:52, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Correct redirect categorization?

Hello, for this redirect, did I apply the correct categories? Special:Diff/1357629775

• Redirect *from* alternative spacing
• Redirect *to* same page with diacritics

I'm questioning that second one about diacritics because technically the redirect is not the exact same page, due to the alternative spacing. If that makes sense. Thanks for your help! Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 18:57, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Chao Garden. I've never used those categories, but looking at their documentation pages, it looks right to me. ColinFine (talk) 19:56, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Looks fine to me; I don't think {{R to diacritic}} needs the page to be exactly the same. If you'd like you can add an {{R from avoided double redirect}} tag to redirects like this. I am bad at usernames (talk · contribs) 21:43, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

I can't find the button to access random articles.

I can't find button to access random articles Huldah42 (talk) 22:16, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

@Huldah42: You posted from the mobile version so tap the hamburger button ≡ at the top left and then "Random". PrimeHunter (talk) 22:25, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Finding uses of a website as a reference

Reading Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide I found a spam link. Is there any way of searching Wiki to find other uses of it? Red Fiona (talk) 18:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Couple of methods, but the easiest is probably to use https://spamcheck.toolforge.org

The other option would be to manually find them using the search bar, with insource:"url here". In solidarity, nil ^nz 19:01, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you :) Red Fiona (talk) 19:16, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

I see several different IPs and accounts who had added links to the site you found at NAD. None seem to be recent, so probably nobody worth warning or blocking. Thanks for tracking and cleaning them! DMacks (talk) 00:14, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I want to become Editor

Hello. I enjoy editing Wikipedia but I don't have a specific topic area that I am deeply interested in or knowledgeable about. Is it acceptable to contribute mainly through general maintenance work such as reverting vandalism, adding categories with HotCat, fixing formatting issues, copyediting, adding references, patrolling recent changes, and other cleanup tasks? If so what are some good areas or workflows that experienced editors would recommend for someone who wants to help improve Wikipedia without focusing on a particular subject area? ProTrump1 (talk) 20:43, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

I would suggest keeping an eye on recent changes pages. You can keep an eye out for material that may be tagged for vandalism or other similar material. Other ones would be highly visited articles which are prone to vandalism. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:52, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. I am currently an autoconfirmed user and mainly edit from mobile. Would Twinkle be suitable for vandalism reversion and maintenance work or are there other tools that experienced editors would recommend for mobile users? ProTrump1 (talk) 20:55, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

It is absolutely acceptable, and in fact very helpful, to contribute with this general maintenance work. The page Wikipedia:Task Center has a good list of these kinds of tasks, including links to go to a random page in a category of pages needing specific help. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:57, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

typo on george michael page

the line is "someone wrote the graffito "Wham!" It should be spelt Graffiti.

itd at the end of the legal problems section Damps (talk) 05:27, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

No, "graffito" in reference to a single piece is correct. (The word is Italian in origin, and "graffiti" is that word's plural form.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^MUSHROOM 05:31, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

You might look at graffito in Wiktionary. -- Hoary (talk) 06:38, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Footnotes

I separated the footnotes from sources in Jason and the Argonauts (1963 film), but the former isn't showing up. What did I do wrong? Clarityfiend (talk) 03:05, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend: I think the problem could be with the <refn> syntax you used for the in-body notes; maybe <ref group=nb> will work better. You could also use WP:NFN with the syntax {{efn}} and {{notelist}} for the notes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:52, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Clarityfiend, one of your notes: <refn|group=nb|It took Ray Harryhausen well over three months to animate the skeleton sequence.</ref>. I haven't knowingly encountered refn before (I use Template:Efn) and so can't guess just what you're attempting here, but your markup treats refn a hybrid tag/reference, which can't be right. Perhaps use the combination of Template:Efn and Template:Notelist? Their docs are easy to digest and implement. -- Hoary (talk) 06:51, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I read WP:REFNEST rather than WP:REFGROUP. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:10, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Clarityfiend, WP:REFNEST recommends {{refn|group=nb|A footnote.<ref>A reference for the footnote.</ref>}}, but in your Harryhausen example you have the equivalent of <refn|group=nb|A footnote.</ref>}}: rather different. -- Hoary (talk) 09:40, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Standard information

Why is it that profiles often identify individuals as Jewish or of Jewish origin, while this is rarely the case for individuals of other religions or ethnic groups? Are there any policies regarding inclusion of such information? ~2026-32332-54 (talk) 11:46, 31 May 2026 (UTC) David J. Fleischmann

See MOS:ETHNICITY, and the essay Wikipedia:Jew-tagging. There are clearly sometimes legitimate reasons to comment on someone's ethnicity and/or religion in a biography - i.e. when it is actually relevant to their notability, but there is no question that it has been emphasised to excess in articles on Jewish people, and we are aware of the issue. I'd like to say we are taking steps to fix it, but the reality is that it involves a lot of donkey-work, and removal of such content sometimes meets well-meaning resistance. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:57, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

I appreciate the effort regarding avoidance of 'Jew-tagging.' But there is an underlying question that seems to have been addressed mainly by avoidance. The style guide says that "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality are generally inappropriate for inclusion in the opening paragraph, unless they are explicitly due emphasis in a person's life... Substitution of ethnicity or religion for nationality, or mixing or equating nationality with ethnicity (i.e., Polish-Jewish) are discouraged in the context of the opening section of an article." Why is it that we automatically accord key importance to nationality? It is an easier key to identification, but is it necessarily the most important one, the one most revealing of a life? Conversely, if religion is an important factor in providing an understanding of a Jewish individual's life and significance, shouldn't Christianity (and the sect or variety) be noted in a comparable way for others, instead of seeming to be a default assumption? ~2026-32332-54 (talk) 11:42, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Can someone please check James A. Garfield's wiki page and fix his potrait?

Currently watching Death by Lightning and I checked the wiki page and got spooked by the portrait being Garfield the cartoon cat ~2026-33144-07 (talk) 09:59, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Y Already fixed. Thanks for the heads up! SomeoneDreaming (talk) 12:22, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Can translate.google.com.ws be used as a source

For titles like Hoʻoponopono, can we use translate.google.com.ws as a source to the english translation? Samoaa Fisho (talk) 05:55, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

You cite the original source. Translation services are just tools to help make sense of what is written. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:23, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

If this is for translations for individual words/phrases, since automatic translation tools are not reliable secondary sources, I do not think that it would be appropriate to cite Google Translate for the translation of a word or phrase. It would be more appropriate to cite a suitable dictionary or topical encyclopedia. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 12:46, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

That translation is sourced to Google translate and a dictionary and the dictionary is quoted later in the article. I would suggest removing Google translate as a source. TSventon (talk) 13:58, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Infobox

Hello,

I am editing a wiki page and wanted to add an infobox. I looked up how to do this and it said to click 'insert' in the editor. This button is not available for me. Is there another way to add this?

Thank you! Sum25003 (talk) 16:00, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

@Sum25003: It depends which editor you are using. In the source editor you can write the infobox code manually. The code should be documented on its template page but you didn't say which infobox you want. If you use VisualEditor then in the mobile version it has no Insert button for some reason, probably a bug. In the desktop version it does have Insert. You can switch between the mobile and desktop version on a "Desktop view" or "Mobile view" link at the botttom of pages (maybe not during an edit). You can switch between the source editor and VisualEdior on a pencil icon at the top right while editing. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:46, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! Sum25003 (talk) 14:23, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Use of images posted in public Discord servers as per Wikipedia's non-free content policy

In trying to find suitable images of a copyrighted work for inclusion as an article's lead image according to the requirements for non-free content, I was wondering if images of the copyrighted work posted by the copyright holder in a public Discord server fulfil criterion 4 for "Previous Publication". In short, are images posted by the copyright holder in public Discord servers considered to be "published"? Thanks for the help. ~2026-33064-13 (talk) 02:32, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-33064-13. That question's a bit specialist: I suggest asking at WP:MCQ. ColinFine (talk) 16:00, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Copyright terms on 1927 uk book

Hi Folks!! Is a 1927 UK book still in copyright. This is it scope_creep^Talk 14:13, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

@Scope creep: what do you want to do? Wikipedia:Non-US copyrights#UK Copyright says The UK Copyright service has a good summary. The legal basis is the 1988 Copyright, Designs and Patents Act, and subsequent modifications and revisions. In particular for literary, artistic works, copyright ends 70 years after the last surviving author dies or if unknown, 70 years after creation or publication. TSventon (talk) 15:09, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @TSventon: I would like to put a {{PD-notice}} on a reference if its public domain. Hector Charles Cameron died in 1958. Would that mean its not PD for at least 18 months. scope_creep^Talk 15:23, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

I am not an expert, hopefully someone else can answer, if not you could ask Diannaa. Obviously she is busy so explain the situation for her. TSventon (talk) 16:00, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

@Scope creep: also I can't see a chapter "A Short Account of the Evolution of Lister's System of Antiseptic Surgery" on pp. 15–61, am I missing something?

@Scope creep: the book enters the public domain on 1 January 2029. Mjroots (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

@Mjroots: I'll put a chapter on it. That is cool. I think Diannaa will probably concur. I was planning to speak to MarchJuly in commons, but it will likely the same answer. Thanks folks. scope_creep^Talk 17:46, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

If you're in the US, before 2029 you can upload images from it to Wikipedia and tag with {{PD-USonly}}. If you're not in the US, ask someone who is. Anything published before 1931 has entered the US public domain, so Wikipedia accepts it even though Commons doesn't. Nyttend (talk) 20:08, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Is it possible to delete Hare and Wolf or does it need fixing

So does the article Hare and Wolf need fixing because the article has one reference and that reference is not working. SillG (Hi! Want to talk?) 20:50, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Sillcosisgogol. In general, a WP:DEADLINK doesn't automatically mean the link has zero value to Wikipedia as a reliable source because sometimes a work-around can be found as explained in WP:DEADREF. A single link to YouTube, though, typically not sufficient in and of itself to establish the Wikipedia notability for a TV program per WP:NTV. Does this mean the article needs to be deleted? Not necessarily because someone (you perhaps) can WP:FIXIT and find additional sources to cite in the article to better establish the subject's Wikipedia notablity. A lack of notability can't be WP:OVERCOME, but a lack of reliable sources being cited sometimes can per WP:NEXIST if such sources can be found. Maybe a good thing to do in this case would be to ask the members of a WikiProject like WP:TV or WP:VIETNAM to take a look at the article to see whether there's a way to improve it or whether it can't be fixed. You should try to do a WP:BEFORE before nomininating, prodding or otherwise tagging any article for deletion just because it lacks cited sources because that's one of the first things you will be asked about if you don't and your self-assessment of the subject matter's Wikipedia notablity turns out to be incorrect. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:53, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

For background, it seems that an equivalent vi Wikipedia article, vi:Thỏ và Sói, was deleted in 2015 as it had no content. TSventon (talk) 22:02, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks Marchjuly SillG (Hi! Want to talk?) 22:06, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Log-in issue

Over the past week or so, I'm getting notices in the morning when I go to a page and try to do something like writing a message, asking me to log in because — for some unknown reason — I'm logged out even though the previous day I got a similar statement about being logged out and accordingly logged in as requested. So again I log in, only for the same thing to reoccur the following day.

I've never had this happen before and I can't think of anything unusual going on that might account for it. Help, please. Augnablik (talk) 12:45, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

It may be the browser. At the time of a web login, you are asked if you want to stay logged in for up to a year, and this sets a HTTP cookie. This should prevent login requests every time you visit the site. Try different browsers, and check that they are not clearing cookies when you close the browser.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:04, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

IanMacM (sounds like a braw Scottish name!), I have replied every time that I'm asked that I do want to stay logged in up to a year. That's what seemed particularly odd about this situation.

The browser I'm using is Chrome, but it's the same one I've been using for quite some time when I work in Wikipedia. Although I use other browsers, I'd really prefer to reserve Chrome just for my Wikipedia work for several reasons. Any other possible remedies? Augnablik (talk) 13:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

If you try replicating the fault with different devices and browsers, it may be possible to narrow down the fault to a particular device or browser. Then you could try uninstalling and reinstalling the browser that causes the problem.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:52, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

The plot thickens. On the two other browsers I use, DuckDuckGo and Safari, I got mixed results: DuckDuckGo, fine—worked correctly as Chrome used to, with me logged in; Safari, same issue as Chrome recently, with me not logged in.

Now, if I follow step 2 of your advice and uninstall/reinstall Chrome, won’t I lose all my history, bookmarks, settings, and tab groupings? Augnablik (talk) 16:19, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Possibly, but it is often possible to export bookmarks and passwords and import them after reinstalling the app, eg with Chrome here.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

All right, I’ll give it a try if I can get up enough nerve. But why did this happen in the first place is what I’d like to understand … and is there anything I can do to prevent if from happening again? Augnablik (talk) 04:24, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@Augnablik- Hmm, I would try asking at WP:VPT? They will probably know more about what's going on/can point you on how to make a bug report. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 04:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Sarsenet. Augnablik (talk) 05:46, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I think you can archive this discussion now. Augnablik (talk) 07:59, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Trying to Give Helpful Information to a Ultra-Rare Community

Hi, I am trying to edit the Glanzmann Thrombasthenia page to include an extremely valuable piece of information that will allow those who actually have the disease to reach out to someone else with it for the first time. It is that rare, one in a million.

It seems my change is dismissed everytime, I am trying to link to curegt.org. It is unfortunate that only the big players are allowed to be linked there, especially when they cannot offer meeting others with it. PeterZdziarski (talk) 18:19, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @PeterZdziarski.

Please look at What Wikipedia is not.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

Unless an independent reliable source (see WP:42) has talked about something, it may not go into an article, no matter how many people might find it useful - and for medical subjects we have a higher criterion for what is a reliable source: see WP:MEDRS.

I get that you are wanting to help people; but what you want to help them with is something which is not appropriate for Wikipedia. Sorry. ColinFine (talk) 18:29, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

That doesn't make sense to me at all. But ok. PeterZdziarski (talk) 18:42, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

PeterZdziarski I might also suggest that you read this page which goes into more detail about what ColinFine was saying. I think social media is probably a better place for you to do what you are trying to do.

I gather that you are probably affiliated with this organization? Please see conflict of interest.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the big players"; no other websites are linked to from that article. If you are referring to the sources, those sources are provided to support the information in the article, not as a means to promote an organization. 331dot (talk) 19:44, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

PeterZdziarski, some of what Colinfine said wasn't on topic — your initial comment sounded as if you'd added a big chunk of text about this organisation, and Colin's comment would have pertained to that. Basically, please remember that this page is an encyclopedia article, so the webpages of organisations in this field really shouldn't be included, simply because you can understand about this disease without knowing about an organisation for those with it. Our external links standards says that organisations' websites shouldn't be included like this, except when they're the official websites of the subjects, which is not the case here because the disease doesn't run the website. I'm sorry, but we have to distinguish links that are generally good (like yours) from links that are genuinely encyclopedic. Nyttend (talk) 20:33, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Essentially, @PeterZdziarski, it would be like if you walked down the street taping this website's URL to the front of random businesses. People tend to be under the mistaken impression that Wikipedia is some kind of one-stop-shop for all information and resources about a given topic, but we are not. Much like those random businesses in the street, we do not use our articles as bulletin boards where people can post whatever relevant links they would like. Athanelar (talk) 05:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

At this point, I've been told in every possible way why I am wrong and what is right. I will be unsubscribing from all future comments, but if more people want to tell me how I am wrong, providing a ton of links that I will not be clicking, go for it. PeterZdziarski (talk) 11:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Logging in

When I tried to login, I got a message saying that an e-mail was being sent to my registered address for verification. I have had this e-mail address for many years, and the redacted version looked correct. However, I never received an e-mail in either my inbox or spam folder. Attempting to reset my password with the "forgot password" ploy also failed. Can you help? My username is Herb Huston. ~2026-33246-45 (talk) 11:56, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-33246-45: If you know the password then mail cawikimedia.org. Don't send the password. Your mail provider may block mail from us as suspected spam so suggest another email address if possible. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:08, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Will you help Nicole Wolfe, please.

I am Robert D. Gauthier. Will you assist the Commander in chief. ~2026-33390-79 (talk) 11:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no article about a Nicole Wolfe. Is the assistance related to Wikipedia? If so, please explain. -- Hoary (talk) 11:58, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Do you mean this person () otherwise I am confused what you are talking about. I love RYCBARM (talk) 13:31, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Article overwritten

Dear all,

I have stumbled over the article Medianet, which had its subject changed in January 2026 (diff). Previously, it described a TV channel from the Maldives, now it details an Australian media analysis company.

I believe that, given notability of both subjects, there should be two articles, no? How to handle that, given the original article is currently overwritten? Best regards, Fallen Sheep (talk) 12:57, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I've restored it to the original topic; the user should submit a draft via the Article Wizard. I think they may be a paid editor. 331dot (talk) 13:03, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Wouldn't be surprised if this was a clever UPE avoiding scrutiny by hijacking an existing article. The Australian media company version of the article shows no signs of passing WP:NCORP. Athanelar (talk) 16:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@331dot In fact, I have immediately found offwiki evidence that proves without a doubt YangZhou0316 works for Medianet (the Australian company). Obviously I won't out the user by saying precisely how I did it, but I should imagine you can figure it out and find the evidence yourself. Athanelar (talk) 16:19, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance, @331dot and @Athanelar! Fallen Sheep (talk) 18:07, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

EasyTimeline extension fail to work on multiple articles.

Several articles appear to have broken EasyTimeline renders. Examples include Star Trek, President of Vietnam, and President of the Philippines. In part of the page that would display the timeline, they instead shows the error message:

Timeline error. Could not store output files.

This does not appear to be limited to a single article, and may be affecting many other pages that use the EasyTimeline extension. I would like to know: What is the likely cause of this error? Is this something that can be fixed by editors, or does it require developer intervention? Is there a way to identify other affected pages across Wikipedia?

Any guidance or answer for any of the above would be appreciated. AjinGixtas (talk) 10:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@AjinGixtas: It's also reported at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Broken timelines and phab:T428063. The latter says: "Note: The cause is known and described on a private task." I guess that means we should just wait for a fix without discussing it more. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, hopefully that will be resolved soon. AjinGixtas (talk) 21:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Repairing old split

Hello. I have been editing the page History of Notre Dame Fighting Irish football which I assumed was split out from Notre Dame Fighting Irish football given similar wording. Checked page history and yep that was at the main article first, but the creator (a since blocked user) back in 2009 did not provide attribution, and also the material was never removed from the main article, leading to an article that's 13151 words and seems to contain pretty much the entire text of the sub-article within it. I can edit out some of the detail from the main article, but I'm not sure what the proper steps are for attribution. A dummy edit now seems weird since the actual split was many years ago.... SomeoneDreaming (talk) 22:32, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

SomeoneDreaming A dummy edit is the textbook answer. You could also add {{Copied}} to both talk pages. In this case many people would guess where the newer article was split from. TSventon (talk) 23:50, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Worst edit

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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What is the worst possible type of vandalism/disruption? ~2026-32374-40 (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi! You may want to post such questions at Wikipedia talk:Vandalism, or the Teahouse. As for an answer, exceptionally egregious disruption typically comes in the form of copyright violations or page-move vandalism, although I feel the urge to ask: why do you want to know? - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 03:09, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

As an April fools prank ~2026-32374-40 (talk) 03:10, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

This is a reference to the Simpsons by the way ~2026-32374-40 (talk) 03:13, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

As an April fools prank It is not April fool's yet, and serious vandalism is prohibited on April Fools' here, see Wikipedia:Rules for Fools and Wikipedia:Disruptive editing#April Fools' Day. Matter of fact, April 1st wont start for another 298 days. If you do want to troll, maybe try being a little less egregious with April fools' trolling when April 1st arrives, or go to Uncyclopedia. - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 03:16, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I posted it on here because it is an advanced question ~2026-32374-40 (talk) 03:12, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Verification Email Not Received

I deleted my cookies and when I tried to login I get the verification code prompt. I check my email and spam and they never arrive. I tried password reset and its the same problem. Stuck and need help. Never had an issue with my email before. ~2026-33428-38 (talk) 03:44, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Please see "Logging in", above. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 04:13, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Source editor apparantly hates me now

Source editor has gone berserk and is trying to "help" me by offering suggestion about how to finish my words. Dirves me nuts, how do I turn it off? Can't fine a button in Preferences right off. Thanks. Herostratus (talk) 12:43, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

@Herostratus, is this perhaps your device that’s doing this? I don’t recall this being a thing within Wikipedia. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 13:10, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

I think this may be due to the change to mw:Parsoid. The new parser will offer suggestions if you start writing a link, HTML tag, or a template. If you turn off the syntax highlighter it also turns the suggestions off, but you'll be looking at the raw source without colour-coding. I don't think there's a way to keep highlighting and only turn off the suggestions. I also don't think you can revert to the old parser now that it's been rolled out (though I may be wrong about that, idk).

If you're getting suggestions for ordinary text, not just links/templates/HTML, then I think this is a problem on your end rather than with Wikipedia's source editor. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 13:14, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

I agree. Me, in particular 13:38, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

IABot

I am not able to use this on the article Lokesh Cinematic Universe; every time I try, it says "abusefilter-disallowed-archivetoday". That is understandable per WP:ARCHIVETODAY, but there are no archive.today links on the article. Is this solvable under "Manage URL data"? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:24, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: I'm not sure if why, but the edit you attempted did try to add an archive.today link to one reference instead of an archive.org. MKFI (talk) 10:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. Manually changing this link in IABot from archive.today to Wayback will fix it? Kailash29792 (talk) 10:30, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

It should, try and see. MKFI (talk) 13:50, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

BLP of my Professor; deletion of incorrect links

Hello,

In trying to help with the Women in Red project, I wanted to create a page for Heidi Hopkins, an entomologist and close friend of mine. I reached out to her to ask if I could get any references or examples of her work to use as resources. I also asked if she was the correct person from two other pages where she is linked (Special:WhatLinksHere/Heidi Hopkins), namely the ones about the bicycle races. She said that she is not connected with the racing, and that she does not find it necessary to have a page for herself and her accomplishments. I want to honor her request, and I was unable to find her research or other information about her from any reputable sources. Can someone please help me submit the page for deletion, as well as de-linking her name from the bicycle race articles?

Thank you kindly,

Mismeander 💬Talk 12:39, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Mismeander I have flagged the page for deletion. Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:21, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Mismeander, done. The page wasn't really viable anyway Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:41, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I don't see any particular reason to remove the redlinks for the cyclist. It is common for different people to have the same name and incoming links should be checked when an article is created, see Wikipedia:Red link#Non-unique names. TSventon (talk) 13:55, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Sleeping dragon (protest tactic)

I want to move Sleeping dragon (manoeuver) to Sleeping dragon (protest tactic)

it is not a frequently edited article

just do it?

Xo4v (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Seems a legitimate move, but there's no hurry. I'd suggest it on the talk page first, and if nobody objects in say a week or so, make the move. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:53, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Destubbing articles

If I destubbed an article which is not related to any nationality for eg. Vierordt's law, can I add it to the WP:50KDE challenge? Sddarealone (talk) 15:38, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Sddarealone you could ask that at Wikipedia talk:The 50,000 Destubbing Challenge. In the e.g., Vierordt was German, so you could add a German flag. TSventon (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Updating an Existing Wikipedia Page in my Husband's name.

• Link: Rudy Buttignol

Hello, There is an existing Wikipedia page for my husband, Rudy Buttignol.

It was created about 10 years ago.

It requires updating regarding career/employment changes.

I do not know the technicalities of Wikipedia's editing process. I do have the appropriate references for the career/employment changes; and I can figure out whete the changes should be inserted.

Is it appropriate for me to ask for help from Wikipedia editors?

Thank you for any help.

Margaret Buttignol ~2026-33540-77 (talk) 18:27, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

The main thing to be mindful of is the WP:SCAMs you are likely to be targeted by since you have expressed interest in having your husband's article edited. Please read the info in that link, and absolutely do not accept any offers to update the article in exchange for payment. Athanelar (talk) 19:33, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello Margaret, the best course of action is to propose changes on the article's talk page using the request edit system with the template {{edit COI}}. Theroadislong (talk) 19:38, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

The edit request wizard may help. 331dot (talk) 19:39, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Minor suggestion to avoid newbie errors on TPs

SUGGESTION: Include a simple notice like "Add your entry at the bottom" in the Talk Page top template for ALL articles.

RATIONALE:

Finding this in the Talk Page requires scrolling about 10 screens down to reach the "New topics and headings on talk pages" (which also should be the first section).

I am sure this is a very common newbie error. I have been scolded (".. for the nth time, [jp1008]!") for putting my comment at the top of a TP and have only learned this after over 6 months of frequent editing!

Lastly, putting it first rather than last is the more intuitive thing for a newbie. It is easier for one. And second, one could argue that seeing the latest comment first would be better than scrolling to the end. But Wiki rules need to be adhered to. You just shouldn't need to learn it through a scolding.
Jp1008 (talk) 22:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Are you editing on mobile or desktop? If you're on desktop, there's a "add topic" button along the top bar on the right hand site which might be easier than scrolling all the way down. Not sure if there's an equivalent button on mobile.

Many talk pages use Template:Talk header, which does have a line specifying "Add new text under old text" and a button that allows you to start a new topic, but it's not universally used. The documentation leads me to believe that there are reasons for that, but I'm not sure what they are. You could ask on the template talk page. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:56, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

@Jp1008: the issue you raise is not a big one. It is easily dealt with when it happens. As you say yourself, you have been educated as to where you were going wrong. You're still a newbie at 6 months editing. You will make much bigger mistakes in the future. The important thing is that you learn from them when you make them. Mjroots (talk)

I did say it was a minor issue, but thanks for the reply. And the ... encouragement? LOL
Jp1008 (talk) 22:51, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Editing on Chrome, iOS. The Tea Room and this page do have the "Add Topic" button, but I have not seen that in any TP so far. Anyhow, I thought it might reduce the frustration of old editors and "avoid chaos" as I was told, and it may not be too hard to add it to the standard TP template, me thought. I'll just leave it at that. Jp1008 (talk) 03:57, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Jp1008

I understand that it can be difficult for new users; However the other side is it shouldn't also clutter Wikipedia for everyone else. One way to do that is with editor help panel which does not teach new editors what to do on talk pages. You could suggest this idea to mw:Talk:Growth/Focus on help desk as they can directly implement your idea if a successful discussion is made. I love RYCBARM (talk) 08:23, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, but isn't this Help Desk? Perhaps you meant some other place?
Jp1008 (talk) 16:40, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I think I have fixed the link. TSventon (talk) 16:56, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

User Likes and Reviews

Dear Team, Please add the feature user Like and Review feature also in each page without login. ~2026-33362-11 (talk) 17:40, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

No. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 17:46, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Really, No! ColinFine (talk) 18:24, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi, this is Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia. We don't have the like or review features for anyone, logged in or not. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 18:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is replete with opportunities to review articles. (If you'd just like to make a discrete suggestion or two for an article, then you may do so on its talk page. Thus you'd make a suggestion for the article Odious number in Talk:Odious number.) If on the other hand you want to express your opinion on the subject of an article, please do so on some other website. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 04:04, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Ninjago Legends

Good afternoon. Should the Ninjago Legends shorts be added to the episode list? ~2026-22534-68 (talk) 16:38, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-22534-68.

I have no idea what this is about, but almost all questions of the form "Should X be added to article Y" are best asked at the talk page of article Y, where people with knowledge and interest about Y are more likely to see them and have an opinion. ColinFine (talk) 17:14, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

https://ninjago.fandom.com/wiki/Ninjago:_Legends ~2026-22534-68 (talk) 17:24, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

We have no control over Wikia/Fandom wikis; you should be asking this question there. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 17:47, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I meant that they could be added here. ~2026-22534-68 (talk) 17:53, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

When you say that you "meant that they could be added here", exactly what do you mean by "here", ~2026-22534-68? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 21:37, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Here on Wikipedia. ~2026-22534-68 (talk) 21:57, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Where on Wikipedia? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:05, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Now requested by OP at Talk:List_of_Ninjago_episodes#Ninjago_legends. I still have no idea exactly what source is being proposed for the information. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:40, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

links and text disappears by itself

Hi, I have been having trouble with the links I shared on my wiki page. It seems like one moment they turn blue and half an hour later it says page doesnt exist. But maybe worse is that I enter text and it is there when I open the sand box, but when I publish it is just gone. I have no idea how I will receive an answer with this request for help, but I hope you can sed me a notification or an email. Thanks in advance, Stefanie Namax71 (talk) 19:09, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Can you share more details? Your sandbox seems to have content in it right now. What happens when you click publish or try to add a link? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 19:25, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@Namax71: I have fixed a lot of syntax errors. See Help:Referencing for beginners. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:35, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Namax71, although PrimeHunter did indeed fix a lot of syntax errors, he doesn't claim to have fixed the related problems. You should read, digest and act on what's written in the page "Wikipedia:Bare URLs". -- Hoary (talk) 22:23, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes it has all the content, but one paragraph is not showing when I push on publish page. So I need it to be visible on the main page, the one you go to when you click publish page. Thanks in advance! Namax71 (talk) 20:36, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Namax71: I fixed a new syntax error. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:24, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

That is awesome, Thank you! Namax71 (talk) 13:37, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

EasyTimeline error issues..

Greetings:

How can I fix an error as I was trying to modify an already set table under the EasyTimeline template? Because it says "Timeline error. Could not store output files" even when I'm trying out a preview of said edit. Any ideas?

jlog3000 (talk) 18:36, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@Johnluisocasio: It's a known bug. Just wait for it to be fixed. See #EasyTimeline extension fail to work on multiple articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:46, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Greetings. And I see. I guess I'll let it play out and see what happens. Because I was planning to like make small re-edit modifications on some table graphs under that extension. But thanks for the hint at least. jlog3000 (talk) 19:51, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Uncategorized redirects

Is there a way to get a list of all uncategorized redirects on Wikipedia? Category:Uncategorized pages seems to exclude redirects, and Category:Uncategorized redirects does not exist. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 13:33, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Scyrme.

I suspect PETSCAN can do this (though I have never used it myself). ColinFine (talk) 17:11, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Possibly, but I'm not sure how I would configure it to do so. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 18:41, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

If anyone knows how PetScan could be used to do this, I'd very much appreciate the help. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 14:30, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

It may be possible with PetScan but there are a lot of uncategorised redirects. This Quarry query shows just the 2428 in mainstpace beginning with "Aa". Category:Uncategorized redirects is a nice idea but its members would, by definition, be ineligible for membership... Certes (talk) 14:58, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Regarding ineligibility for membership, you could say the same about Category:Uncategorized pages. Regardless, I'm not proposing to create Category:Uncategorized redirects; I'm just looking for a way to find uncategorized redirects. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 16:03, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

"A lot" is right. I'm actually seeing more uncategorized redirects in mainspace (6115073) then categorized ones (5802125). It's a little worse if you look specifically at redirect categories (per WP:Categorizing redirects, all normal redirects should be in at least one): 5486104 categorized, 6431094 not. At the other end of the spectrum, there are 28 redirs with more than a hundred categories each and three with more than 200: Constitution of the Food and Agriculture OrganizationConstitution of the Food and Agriculture Organization with 219, Constitution of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural OrganisationConstitution of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation with 213, and Constitution of the World Health OrganizationConstitution of the World Health Organization with 210. —Cryptic 16:57, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for this. Looking at the table for the 28 redirects with more than hundred non-rcat categories, it looks like the table is a bit off since some of the titles actually list multiple redirects with pipes separating the titles. Not sure why. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 19:26, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Nvm, I think I understand what's going on with this table. Those are articles with the same stats, and the pipe has just been used to list them.

I've gone ahead and made sure all those entries with more than 27 categories have at least 1 rcat, even if it is just a drop in the ocean when compared with the over 6 million redirects without any categories.

If I've understood these figures right, there are ~316,021 redirects that have a normal article category but no rcat, which means most redirects have neither (if these figures are right). – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 21:58, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Mass typo fixing

Hello, two or so weeks ago, I noticed advanced searches for "2st" and "3nd" return over 340 results each, and realized that with that many results, I was bound to rack up a lot of edits merely fixing those typos, even if only a fraction are genuine typos. Then, a few days ago, I saw the article Commonly misspelled English words, and realized the advanced searches I have already done are only the tip of the iceberg.

So, knowing I may end up editing over 1,000 articles by completing advanced searches for dozens of these typos, I've came here for guidance on rate limits, best practices, etc, and consensus if there isn't a better way to do this, although I do have a few last things to say:

List of 4 large dashed points (I apologize for the wall of text)

  -  There are many different advanced searches, all of varying sizes, so I would imagine that filing AutoWikiBrowser requests would be cumbersome to do and for the performing user to complete notwithstanding the dash below, so in the event that any collection of typo fixes were incorrect, it would be less urgent to get the attention of a user that was editing rather slowly, versus somebody working on AWB at possibly 5+ EPM. However, I could very well be wrong on this, as AWB may be able to do more then what is stated at WP:AWB.

  -  Although these advanced searches may return several thousand results total, I know only a fraction are genuine typos, as references, abbreviations, quotes, proper names, and templates may contain the typo-like strings in question, but they won't be typos per the context they are in; e.g. THST restored the loco to operational condition... from Telford Steam Railway.

  -  These edits will be done manually, aided only by the advanced searches, so if I see several typos while in the edit window, I will most definitely fix those too, and typically will also scour the article for any other worrying symptoms, unless I have done so many edits consecutively that going down the list of potential typos becomes mindless enough to where I zone out, but I doubt that as I won't be editing very quickly.

  -  Per the above dash and the edits that I have already made that have been typo fixing, I will be editing at a pace of roughly one or potentially two edits per minute, so slower than most bots, although my edit summaries will of course be mostly the same.

- BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 02:09, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, you can file AWB requests, you can also get AWB or JWB yourself. I've used AWB quite a bit, and with a regex with a bit of regex tweeking, you should be able to limit yourself to genuine ones. Let me know if you'd like help there, or just come over to WP:AWB to discuss. And as for speed, on simple ones like that, generally it is easier to ask forgiveness on speed. And don't worry about number of edits, if 340 need fixing that's 340 edits.Naraht (talk) 02:27, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

• you can also get AWB or JWB yourself Thanks, but although I do have 500 edits now, I doubt that I am eligible for AWB/JWB access, and even if I am, I don't think it would change much besides make typo fixing faster, which per my third dash above, likely won't be a good (or bad) thing. Additionally, I likely wouldn't need AWB/JWB for much outside of these typo fixes.
• and with a regex with a bit of regex tweeking [sic] I know nothing about regex besides the fact that it is used in the spam blacklist, and although Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Regular expression has guidance on regex, I am not sure if that will be needed here, per the above bullet.
• you can file AWB requests True, but wouldn't filing 30+ AWB requests be just as cumbersome for others and/or myself as making all 1000+ edits myself, especially considering they would have to tick off each request as {{done}}? (See last dash in {{collapsed top}})

With regards to the last sentence in your reply: I mostly knew that for (likely) uncontroversial typo fixes like here, edit speed isn't worth worrying about unless you are outpacing very fast bots like MonkBot, although non-script assisted edits don't commonly reach high editing speeds anyway. (See last dash) - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 02:45, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

BlueEleephantAlso, the query you have for 3nd is giving a *lot* of situations where is something like 3nd army group being a redirect to 3rd. Those can be ignored (or are at least a separate question as to whether they are logical redirects. If you want to see the ones that you'd hit, I'd suggest searching for insource:/3nd/ , that will give ones where that string actually occurs in the article. you can tweek that with insource:/[^a-z][0-9]*3nd[^a-z]/ to get rid of some of those three characters are in a longer text string, but still getting those where it is someone in 33nd place. That gave me 121 hits (before the regex timed out), but it looks like about half are valid things to fix. Of course at that few, you may want to do them by hand. :)

(It may not surprise you that I do regex as part of my job.) Naraht (talk) 02:36, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

the query you have for 3nd is giving a *lot* of situations where is something like 3nd army group being a redirect to 3rd. Those can be ignored ... Oh, I know, that is the neat part of how I do typo fixes based off of advanced searches: if I find an instance where the supposed typo isn't actually a typo, (see second dash) I will just skip it, or if it looks like it might be a typo, I will typically investigate further to see if it really is, which sometimes involves looking through cited sources, although this isn't always possible, unfortunately.

With regards to the third sentence of your comment, I have been aware for a while of the insource: trick, but I didn't realize how complicated it can get, wow. - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 02:54, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Hit an edit conflict, with your further comment, oh well. Try a few, see how *you* work and go from there. And as for how complex the insource can get. I have the following in my commonly used entries in my browser

There are two levels of insource, one with double quotes which is sort of normal and the other with slashes which is where you use regex. (and I've got some regex insource queries that make *that* look simple that I actually use.)

You've got good instincts on this. Just take a small bite at the beginning. If it helps, you can ask my talk page as well, I'm on almost every day.Naraht (talk) 03:11, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Try a few, see how *you* work and go from there I already have! If you look deep enough through my contributions, you will see quite a lot of typo fixing, including quite a bit from advanced searches of typos listed at Commonly misspelled English words, but if I should do a trial run of ~30 or so typo fixes in a row, then I will gladly do so assuming the edits will not be disruptive, which was why I first initiated this thread.

Hit an edit conflict, with your further comment Oh, sorry then! Just a minute ago, I was involved in two sections simultaneously, so I felt the need to write a lot, which of course, are perfect conditions for edit conflicts. - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 03:24, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Posted to your talk page. No prob on edit conflicts, it happens. :)Naraht (talk) 03:28, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I've completed a trial of 44 instances of "3nd", see my recent edit history, which represents about 4.4% of the total edits I'm imagining to make within the next few months, or even year, or so. Chances are, there may be other uses who would like to help complete advanced searches for typos on the master list, which would be nice as the effort could be split across users, some of which are far more experienced in mass typo fixing than I am, although for such tedious work, I wouldn't imagine very many would be interested, which is fine. - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 18:35, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

BlueEleephant I suggest looking at Wikipedia:Typo Team. There may be some useful advice on their project page, and their members may be interested in what you are doing. TSventon (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

My method of choosing typos to fix is dominantly built on the guidance at that page, although I somehow didn't think about posting a link to this thread on WT:TYPO, which would certainly be a much better idea then posting a notice to here at WP:BOTN, which was my original idea.

their members may be interested in what you are doing Considering the typo team has over 1,000 members, I am honestly surprised I never thought about alerting the project, my mistake! - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 19:40, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I started something similar a few years ago using JWB. It needs a semi-automated human effort and is certainly not a bot task. You have plenty of good ideas and I wish you every success, but the main reason I stopped was lack of certainty over what the correct text should be. "3nd" may be a typo for "2nd", "3rd" or something else – "end" is only a fat finger away. Deciding which is right in each case may take some research or even be impossible. Of course, higher numbers also go wrong. The ordinal suffix should usually match the last digit but beware of exceptions such as 11th and 112th. Certes (talk) 20:49, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Of course, higher numbers also go wrong. The ordinal suffix should usually match the last digit but beware of exceptions such as 11th and 112th True, although now that I have mostly completed an elaborate advanced search graciously provided by Naraht, I will soon be moving on to other advances searches, like "2st", which also returns a whole lot of results. The only plausible correct texts here should be 2nd & 1st, since the string "qst" is unlikely to be found in many articles outside URL links and links to the magazine. - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 23:20, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for taking this task on, and good luck! That search produces good results but times out. In general, insource:/whatever/ alone is very inefficient and does not complete, because it has to test every word of every article. Adding insource:3nd without the slashes produces more results and avoids overloading the servers but at the expense of missing cases where 3nd is part of a word such as 23nd – these would need separate searches. There will still be false positives such as the interlinear gloss 3nd and a few postcodes but they should be obvious. Certes (talk) 10:22, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

I have now completed another round of 53 typos, this time from "2st", which now represents 9.7% of 1,000 possible edits.

Considering nobody from WT:TYPO has came here yet, maybe @Chris the speller would be interested / have some guidance. - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 18:05, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

A good, quick WP search is

~"2st" insource:/ 2st /

but most hits require considerable research to determine what they should be changed to, and that is more digging than I usually want to sign up for. Chris the speller ^yack 19:10, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks!

It doesn't seem like anybody has had opposition to this project yet, so if it continues to stay that way, then I suppose I will boldly go ahead and fully begin mass-fixing typos from the master list. (See above) - BlueEleephant (talk · contribs) 01:46, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Infobox Image

How to insert image on the infobox of page IMGTMC (talk) 04:07, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Exactly the way you did in your sandbox. 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 06:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

@IMGTMC: Most infoboxes only want the file name and then add their own formatting. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:30, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Did you actually take that photograph of Angelo Agcaoili? It matches one I see on social media and both the overall composition and the person himself look artificially created. DMacks (talk) 12:43, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, as I assume that it for public use. Is there anything I need to adjust? If so, I would really appreciate if you could guide me please. IMGTMC (talk) 05:09, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

@IMGTMC Yes, you took the picture yourself, or yes, you got it from his social media? If it's from his social media, you can't use it on Wikipedia. Someone else will need to guide you in what to do, and I think it will be deleted. David10244 (talk) 06:15, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Eric Stephens (cricketer)

Reference help requested. The ISBN in the book is 978-1-94907-46-8 - what is incorrect in this format? Thanks, DJohn73 (talk) 19:45, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

You only included twelve digits; ISBNs beginning with 978 are thirteen digits. Go back to the book itself and count the digits. If there are indeed only twelve, well, we can all blame the publisher for failing to comply with the standards, and someone else will have to help you because I won't know what to do. But if you missed one, just add it and things should be fine. Nyttend (talk) 20:35, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Editor Nyttend is somewhat mistook. Twelve digits are given here by OP, in the article, thirteen are given. Compare the error messaging:

ISBN 978-1-94907-46-8 {{isbn}}: Check isbn value: length (help)

ISBN 978-1-914907-46-8 {{isbn}}: Check isbn value: checksum (help)

Still the advice has value: Go back to the book itself and make sure that the ISBN provided in the {{cite book}} template matches the value provided in the book. If there is a digit-for-digit match, wrap the ISBN with accept-as-written markup; which see.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

To the contrary: 13 is the worldwide standard. Ask any anglophone librarian (including me) about it, and you can get heaps of information. Nyttend (talk) 00:06, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I know that. But Qwerfjkl (bot) was highlighting Editor DJohn73's edit that created this broken reference (permalink) in which |isbn=978-1-914907-46-8 has thirteen digits. The attached error message is not complaining about length but is complaining that the checksum doesn't match the check-digit. Recalculating the check-digit (assuming that all other digits are correct) gives this:

ISBN 978-1-914907-46-3

but that is likely wrong, though worth the try, because neither google nor worldcat recognize that isbn as valid.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:42, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Possibly ISBN 978-1-914407-46-8 . TSventon (talk) 00:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

(ec) Looking at the picture of the back of teh book on Amazon, the isbn is ISBN 978-1914407-46-8. DuncanHill (talk) 00:55, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Many thanks - the ISBN 978-1914407-46-8 seems to have worked, despite the actual book I have in front of me saying 978-1-914407-46-8 ! DJohn73 (talk) 10:40, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

@DJohn73 What you say is on the book matches what TSventon listed at 00:54 UTC. I don't think the placement or number of dashes is significant in ISBNs. TSventon's link works too, I believe, as does DuncanHill's. David10244 (talk) 07:03, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Account Role

Hello, I would like to inquire about the process to become an admin. Thank you for your guidance. DominicHeal2000 (talk) 05:56, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

See WP:RFA for one of the two main ways editors become admins (admin elections are the other). That said, most candidates need at least 10,000 edits, among other things, to be considered, so if you're thinking of running yourself, you've a long way to go. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 06:23, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi DominicHeal2000. There's some general information on this in Wikipedia:Request for adminship and Wikipedia:Administrator elections, but the vetting process can be a bit harsh so you might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:Advice for RfA candidates just to get a bit of a feel for what it entails. Generally, Wikipedians selected as admins are those who have demonstrated to the Wikipedia community that they have a really good grasp of most of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and how they are to best be applied. They also tend to fairly experienced at editing across a variety of different areas of the project. While there's no specific number of edits one needs to have made or a specific number of years one needs to have been editing, users with a fairly low total edit count like yours (if you're asking about you yourself becoming an admin) tend to scrutinized a bit more than perhaps someone with a more established editing history simply because there's less for others to base an assessment on. Furthermore, the fact that your account is also described as being retired might make some question your motivation for becoming an administrator. This doesn't mean becoming an admin is impossible per se; it just means it might be a bit hard without a more established editing history, and you might find many telling you "not yet". -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:29, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Admin here - being an admin isn't really that big a deal. Yes, you get some extra tools to use; but those tools bring extra responsibilities. It's really better to wait to be nominated. When I was first asked about whether I would like to become an admin, I didn't think I was ready, and said so. A couple of years later I was ready, ran and passed an RFA. A big factor in gaining the confidence of other editors is how you handle yourself when disputes occur. Mjroots (talk) 08:29, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Alternate template for OpenStreetMap?

I'm wondering if there is an alternate template that directly uses OpenStreetMap over Wikimedia Maps. I'm wondering about this for a park, specifically Brian Piccolo Park, because OpenStreetMap's map of the park has a much more informative map over Wikimedia Maps, although the only template I see uses Wikimedia Maps. If there is not a more informative template, would it then be possible to upload a screenshot of the OpenStreetMap map, of course with given credit, or is that not allowed for whatever reason? Thank you! SonOfYoutubers (talk) 19:07, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@SonOfYoutubers The map in the infobox of that article is already from OSM and you can click on it and then zoom in so that what you eventually see is pretty much what you would get directly from OSM. If you want to investigate further, you should probably take a look at OSM's own wiki about collaborating with Wikipedia. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:31, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull It's doesn't seem to be the same, given that Wikimedia Maps is a separate service. When you zoom in, you don't see the fields like on OpenStreetMap, such as the baseball fields and the soccer/football fields. But, based on the link you gave, I'm assuming it would be possible to just screenshot the map and just follow the guide it gives for crediting OpenStreetMap, if I'm not mistaken? SonOfYoutubers (talk) 18:55, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@SonOfYoutubers Yes, you can use Commons:template:OpenStreetMap and if you need some examples, then check by using the "What links here" tool and looking at file locations. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:46, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

withdrawals

I keep getting a request for information regarding my withdrawals but I have never made any.

Just to let you know that we need some additional information to process your withdrawal. this is a copy of the request Les McCloskey (talk) 10:48, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

@Les McCloskey: I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 7.1 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:52, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

It sounds like something a scammer might write to get information and use it illegally so be very careful. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:57, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Featured article of the day nomination

Is it required to be a major contributor of a featured article to be able to nominate it? Looking at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests I see a lot of nominations that have the nominator be the "major editor" and I just need clarification if it's compulsory or optional. Soccer Tees (talk) 09:56, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

[Attempting to answer your question led me to discover that User:Raul654 hasn't edited in years. Nyttend (talk) 10:05, 8 June 2026 (UTC)]

@Soccer Tees: Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests says: "Editors who are not significant contributors to the article should consult regular editors of the article before nominating it for TFAR." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:27, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Citizen Vigilante

Reference help requested.

Thanks, ChristianKarnick (talk) 21:13, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @ChristianKarnick.

It's telling you that you haven't specified the title of the item (|title = ...) which is required.

I'd have inserted it, but that website is not available in my region - I guess the title might be simply "Citizen Vigilante", but maybe it's something else. ColinFine (talk) 22:43, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

@ChristianKarnick I fixed it for you. ColinFine was correct about the title. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 00:21, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Infobox NRHP

I have created an article about a house on the National Register of Historic Places: "Lulu Hopping House." I have essentially copied the code in "Infobox nrhp" from similar articles into my article. For some reason the resulting infobox does not call the usual 2nd line, "National Register of Historic Places." Everything else works as expected. It does call the secondary listing, "NM State Register of Cultural Properties." I cannot see the difference between my Infobox and those on similar articles. G.H.Jarrell (talk) 15:24, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

@G.H.Jarrell: The line depends on refnum. refnum = SG100012951 doesn't generate the line and doesn't make a link at "NRHP reference No". refnum = 100012951 would do both but the link would be the broken https://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/NRIS/100012951. Do you know a working link? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! Stumbled into that. The State Historic Preservation Officer (SHPO) gave me "SG100012951" and that's what shows up at NRHP "pending nominations." Guessing that NPS hasn't posted the application even though they notified the SHPO that it was accepted. In any case, the naked integer "1000012951" as "refnum =" lets the form call the line "U.S. National Register of Historic Places." NPS is being quirky: What's the "SG" supposed to do? (Confuse me, I guess...) Resolved, at least for now. Thanks, GHJ G.H.Jarrell (talk) 02:57, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

The two-letter prefix on the refnum indicates what kind of action the NRHP is taking. "SG" is the nomination of a single property, "MP" is the nomination of one of multiple related properties, "BC" is boundary change, etc. The trailing numerals are unique. Andrew Jameson (talk) 12:09, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

@G.H.Jarrell: Weekly List 2026 05 01 confirms it was listed and gives the same SG number:

NEW MEXICO, BERNALILLO COUNTY,
Hopping, Carl and Lulu, House,
737 Edith Boulevard SE,
Albuquerque, SG100012951,
LISTED, 5/1/2026

I guess content will eventually show up at https://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/NRIS/100012951 but I don't promise it. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:28, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

The 99ers

Hi I wrote the first draft of the script The 99ers with Jamee Decio. You can confirm by googling it on deadline or call Netflix or the WGA. We worked hard on this and there is a good chance we will get some writing credit. Please update. Thanks jill Mazursky Dingoandwinnie (talk) 08:18, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

This could only be included if there is a published Reliable source stating it, that can be cited for verification. Can you provide a link (or bibliographical data if not online) to such a published source?

Also, please specify/link the Wikipedia article this relates to: There is no Wikipedia article titled The 99ers (hence that link being red) and mentions of the term elsewhere do not seem relevant to a scripted work. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 12:45, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

I have just lost many hours of work! How to retrieve?

Hi. In clicking around to understand how to insert a photograph when it didn't work the first time, which led me to leave a page and agree to changes not being saved (I never imagined it meant that many hours of work!), I now can't find what I had done over the last few days. It's strange that Wikipedia says that all changes are saved, but one can nonetheless screw up the way I have.

I have looked in the revision history, and the most recent it lists is 20 May, but I have worked on this new as yet unreviewed page over the last two days.

All help most appreciated! If I have to do it again, of course I will, but if I don't have to, you will have my eternal thanks!

Alison Jean Lester Alison Jean Lester (talk) 10:53, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

If you did not press "Publish changes" (which is the button which saves and makes public any changes you made to a page) then your work is lost. Athanelar (talk) 11:02, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. Learning, as so often, the hard way! Alison Jean Lester (talk) 13:27, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

@Alison Jean Lester: If the browser tab is still open then your browser might remember something if you click back until you reach the edit page. You can also try Special:EditRecovery but it's probably disabled. It cannot recover edits from before it was enabled. For another time, many browsers allow you to open a link in a new tab by pressing Ctrl while you click. Then you can return to the old tab later. I also sometimers copy a large edit to a text editor but that may not work in VisualEditor. It works in the source editor. You can switch to it on a pencil icon at the top right of VisualEditor. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:18, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Many thanks for the tips. Alison Jean Lester (talk) 13:28, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

@Alison Jean Lester The only other edit you made with your account was Draft:Charles Gorham. If it is something else you worked on, then I'm afraid it is lost. Maresa63 ^Talk 12:36, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, you're right. That's the one, and the work is gone. I will take a break and start again! Thanks. Alison Jean Lester (talk) 13:28, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Publishing a Wiki Page and getting approval

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Hi! I am in the process of seeing if my second submission of a Wiki page will be approved and I have not heard anything via my email or through the status on the page. Is there any way I can contact support or see what the status of my page is? Are there any tips on receiving approval or avoid getting denied again? BlaineTurner Advertising (talk) 13:41, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

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JFK Airport

Just a point of fact to be researched....The Port Authority of NY & NJ does NOT Own the Airport...The Land IS owned by the City of New York....The Port Authority leases the land ...The last lease renewal was in was on 2014 for 40 years....

https://www.osc.ny.gov/files/audits/2018-01/sga-2017-14s28_1.pdf ~2026-34112-99 (talk) 14:49, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Please bring this up on the talk page for the relevant article, where people with knowledge and interest in the subject are more likely to see it. ColinFine (talk) 14:54, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Highlighting text

Is there something like failed verification span for long quote? I think the highlighting would make the full extent of the quote easier to discern than a small indicator at the end of the last sentence. TPI81AF (talk) 18:28, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

This might need to be discussed at Template talk:Long quote. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 18:30, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Dummy Hoy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dummy_Hoy#Personal_life The difference between "D" and "d" the meaning is very much different. "D"ummy m means inability to hear and to talk while "d"ummy means stupid or idiot person. www.signforhoy.com is a new additional. ~2026-34118-83 (talk) 18:05, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-34118-83 Please raise any suggestions for improvements to an article on the article talk page, i.e.Talk:Dummy_Hoy. Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:55, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Take Down Pages As Soon As Possible

Hello,

Please take down the following pages ASAP due to misinformation, intent to harass, vulgar content, etc. :

(1) Prince Albert (genital piercing)

(2) Christina piercing

Most Appreciatively,

Christina Scarlett (Redacted) Csc1255 (talk) 19:26, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

These articles are covered by WP:NOTCENSORED. They are not intended to offend or harass.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:29, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

@Csc1255: Yes, if there are reliable sources about a subject to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability then Wikipedia can have an article about it no matter how offensive some people may find it. If you think the pages have misinformation then you can discuss it on the talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:24, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

How do I submit something for RfC?

Hi

WP:ELIT project and others in the electronic literature /Wikipedia community have been working on a list of notability criteria specifically for electronic literature. How do we submit it for an RfC? Thanks! User:LoveElectronicLiterature/Notability (ELIT) - Wikipedia LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 19:29, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

See WP:RFC for all the details. Athanelar (talk) 20:47, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Genuine question, why isn't there an article on the phenomenon of "Vanity Pages"/"Vanity Articles"?

I know they're prevalent as hell, I've seen dozens on BJAODN. ~2026-34037-64 (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

There is. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 16:55, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

oh- ty ~2026-34037-64 (talk) 20:57, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

My User Page Is Not Appearing in Google Search

Hello,

I have created a Wikipedia user page, but I noticed that it does not appear in Google Search results.

User page:

Even when I search for specific terms related to the page, including “Behrad Ahmadi”, I cannot find the page in Google.

I would like to know whether Wikipedia user pages are intentionally excluded from search engine indexing, or if there is any issue preventing this page from being indexed.

If there are any guidelines or requirements regarding search engine visibility for user pages, I would appreciate your clarification.

Thank you for your time and assistance.

Kind regards,

Behrad Ahmadi Jews News (Harvard) (talk) 19:39, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

See WP:INDEXING. It could take up to 90 days for it to appear. Do you have a particular need for it to appear in search engines quickly? It isn't intended as a social media style page. 331dot (talk) 19:45, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Jews News (Harvard). Like many people, you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is.

Wikipedia is a collaborative online enyclopaedia - that's all. It is not social media, and it is not a directory.

The main part of it should consist of well-sourced neutral non-promotional articles about notable subjects ("notable" has a specific definition that is not quite the same as in normal use): those are the part which is normally exposed to outside search engines.

User pages are part of the collaboration, not part of the encyclopaedia, and they are not normally indexed by search engines. They are for editors to introduce themselves to the editing community and display something about themselves as Wikipedia editors. A small amount of biographical information beyond their activity in Wikipedia is allowed, but it should not dominate the user page.

Note also that writing an article about yourself in Wikipedia is so monumentally difficult that is it very strongly discouraged. ColinFine (talk) 20:03, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

The first thing to say here is that user pages should not contain CVs or excessive biographical information, which is what User:Jews News (Harvard) does. This type of material is suitable for a Facebook or LinkedIn profile but not Wikipedia. Also, Wikipedia has no control over what external search engines do.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:47, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

The second thing to say is that, on English Wikipedia, the User: namespace is automatically noindexed via a software setting. Search engines which respect that request will exclude User: pages from their results. This behaviour deters the use of Wikipedia as a host for publishing résumés and other promotional material. Certes (talk) 20:01, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Can any one create article for me

If any one can do this plz say i will contact him Jews News (Harvard) (talk) 20:11, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

You can put it in WP:Requested articles.

Note that if anyone contacts you off-wiki and says they'll write an article for you, it's probably a scam; see WP:SCAM. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 20:14, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Before requesting the article, it's worth quickly checking that the intended subject is notable. That link gives general guidelines and links to more specific requirements for popular types of topic such as people. We don't clutter the encyclopedia with pages on non-notable topics – for example, there's no article about me. Certes (talk) 20:53, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

In the deleted user page, we learned that the editor was a student of IT. There was no mention of graduate status, so I'd guess an undergraduate. No achievements were claimed, no references were provided. I noticed no suggestion that even a skilled and experienced editor could generate a viable article about this person. The heading above lacks a "?", but it's a question; the answer to it is "No they can't". -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 21:45, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Jews News (Harvard) I think you misunderstand what we do here- articles here summarize what independent reliable sources say about the topic, not what it wants to say itself, such as posting your resume. Posting your resume is exactly what social media is for. 331dot (talk) 22:28, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Messed up editing

Hi, I messed up editing an entry - APEC. They have a new chair - China, was trying to update but now formatting is off EdwardPang2020 (talk) 14:09, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

I believe I fixed the problem with this edit. In this edit, you had inserted a stray "}}" in the |leader_name1= field, and when you reverted that, you restored a version with an improperly closed {{URL}} template in the |official_website= field. Deor (talk) 14:54, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

IAbot (2)

Thanks to Kailash29792, I finally could reach here to ask the same issue that Kailash had before. Not sure why that error also appears on On My Mind (Ellie Goulding song) article, although I tried removing all archive.today links and even clearing the whole citation which is only supported by archive.today. Could someone please help me for this? Camilasdandelions (✉️) 01:29, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Your atttempted edit contained an archive.today link for Hot 100 Songs – Year-End 2016 (this link: ) Danski454 (talk) 15:09, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Hide Wikidata edits in my watchlist

My watchlist shows Wikidata edits that are for the same entries as an article I have watchlisted. For example, since I watchlisted Daylight saving time, I see Wikidata changes such as this one. How can I adjust my watchlist settings so I don't see Wikidata edits? Jc3s5h (talk) 15:45, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

@Jc3s5h: Go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist, scroll down to the "Advanced options" heading, untick the box that says Show Wikidata edits in your watchlist. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 15:51, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

That worked, thanks. Jc3s5h (talk) 17:05, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Adobe Acrobat shortcut

I hope someone can help with this. An Adobe Acrobat shortcut has started appearing on Wikipedia articles, and I'd like to remove it or make it disappear permanently. I'm assuming it's something to do with preferences, so could someone point me to the right place? What I'm seeing is a circle at the bottom right of the screen with the Adobe sign in it, and a drop down menu. Thanks in advance, This is Paul (talk) 18:17, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

@This is Paul: Do you see it at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?safemode=1? If you do then it's probably added at your end, maybe by a browser extension. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:42, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. Yes, I could see it. It looks like it's something Wiki-related as there was an option to go to preferences. I do have a couple of browsers extensions installed so perhaps they've been updated. I've managed to remove it though. Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 20option to go to:23, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

I don't know whether "preferences" went to Wikipedia preferences. Adobe software and many others also use that term. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:55, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Mess up deletion

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~2026-34372-89 (talk) 23:57, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Heelo, I have just crosschecked the deleted Martin Luther Nyanzi article which had passed articles for creation with even substantial edits from different users but one of the editor whom I think have combined to withdraw this subject from Wikipedia deleted with it and even deleted the article before giving editors more room for discussion. I see this in a way a persona person can create an article and again goes on another device to show that maybe the page is being researched by more people so this Is what these editors are also doing to one similar subject. Then it means those who reviewed and those who made substantial edits never accessed the sources used. A non significant person can never appear in a government newspaper but these people treat East Africa as West, in Uganda there are many people with real work but news is limited that's most subjects here on Wikipedia Nyanzi is more notable than them butvjust for somepeople here on Wikipedia like Daily Monitor as a reliable to prove, On daily Monitor]] a biography [[article about someone can be bought through editors but in New Vision its not. So, Wikipedia help undelete the Martin Luther Nyanzi article it passes WP:GNG and WP:BIO as the reviwer of AFC approved it and even patrolled, the articlecan be improved on the way too. Thanks ~2026-34372-89 (talk) 23:59, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

"A non significant person can never appear in a government newspaper"? What an utterly ridiculous statement. Anyway, the reasons for deletion were adequately explained, and regardless of how many anonymous temporary accounts and sockpuppets appear, we aren't going to assist. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:07, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

but this never required using such adjective ridiculous or just because you whites think you're above Africa but it's okay. ~2026-34372-89 (talk) 00:23, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Broad unjustified allegations of racism will only land you a block. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 06:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

The substantial edits were not from temporary accounts if you're to check the revisions. I suggest article to be draftified for more development or taken to main space. ~2026-34372-89 (talk) 00:28, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

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Help

every time I tried to edit a Wikipedia article it always gets changed no matter how hard I try Liamthecheeseman (talk) 06:38, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

@Liamthecheeseman Please see the messages on your talk page, and note the importance of Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:32, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Guidance on Creating a Wikipedia Biography Page

Dear Wikipedia Support Team,

I hope you are doing well.

I would like to seek guidance regarding the creation of a Wikipedia biography page for a senior government official serving in the Office of the Principal Scientific Adviser (PSA) to the Government of India.

Could you please advise on the following: - The eligibility and notability requirements for creating a biography page for a public official. - The process for submitting a draft biography through a Wikipedia account. - The appropriate platform or section within Wikipedia where such a draft should be created and submitted for review. - The documentation, references, and reliable sources that are typically required to support the biography. - Any conflict-of-interest or disclosure requirements that should be followed if the submission is being made by someone associated with the individual or their organization.

I would appreciate any guidance, resources, or links that can help ensure that the submission complies with Wikipedia's policies and standards.

Thank you for your time and assistance. I look forward to your response.

Warm Regards, Tushar Jha ~2026-34214-86 (talk) 08:28, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

For eligibility, see Wikipedia:Notability (people). Biographies of public officials are subject to the same criteria as any other subject. As for the rest, see Help:Your first article, Wikipedia:Reliable sources, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and possibly Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. If you yourself are the subject, note that we strongly discourage such articles, and see Wikipedia:Autobiographies. Note that creating an acceptable article is a difficult task for a new contributor, and we'd recommend gaining more experience with more general editing before attempting this. Note also that you will find it very difficult to create an article without first creating an account here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:44, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

You may use the Article Wizard to create and submit a draft.

Elected officials have their own criteria, but non-elected government officials have the same criteria as anyone else, the notable person criteria. We do not want to know what the person says about themselves, we want to know what others say about them, especially with critical analysis and commentary as to what exactly their impact is.

Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia, it is not recommended as the first task a new user does. It is best to first gain experience and knowledge of Wikipedia by editing existing articles. It's even harder to write a new article if you are writing about someone you know or yourself. 331dot (talk) 08:47, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

EuroVolley 2026 tournament links

The 2026 Men's European Volleyball Championship and 2026 Women's European Volleyball Championship are both linked as a hatnote on each other page but also on 'See also' section then I removed it but the creator, ILoveSport2006, undid it without explanation so I reverted by linking WP:HATNOTE and WP:NOTSEEALSO in my edit summary but then got undid and their edit summary is this: As I mentioned based off my experience. The links are useful. Isn't it WP:OL?

Here's a related volleyball discussion. ꕥ 𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑 ꕥ ^{→𝙼𝚎𝚜𝚜𝚊𝚐𝚎 𝚖𝚎←} 11:58, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

What's wrong with my explanation? I think it is a better one than just spewing Wikipedia links that people think we will read. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 13:08, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

ILoveSport2006, among your last fifty contributions is the edit summary "As I mentioned based off my experience. The links are useful", used for edits to two articles. There's nothing about this matter in the talk page of either article. Where is the mention? And if you haven't read and digested MOS:NOTSEEALSO, please do so. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 02:29, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@ILoveSport2006 If you want to contribute successfully to Wikipedia, you should definitely click on, and read, the pages that explain how to contribute successfully to Wikipedia. David10244 (talk) 10:46, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

My father

hi , my father played soccer in the states circa late 50s early 60s I didnt know much about it , I think the team was called the eagles or german eagles his name was John Henry Fenwick, any ideas he came back to scotland because of Vietnam. Any help would be great thanks ~2026-33709-74 (talk) 22:38, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

This desk is for help with Wikipedia, so I think your question is out of scope. You could try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. I have one suggestion, which is see if you can access ancestry.com via a library. Presumably you know more details about your father and you could look for yourself without sharing the information here. TSventon (talk) 01:01, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-33709-74 Exactly what kind of help are you asking for? David10244 (talk) 11:01, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Contributions

Have been a member since 2019 and contributing annually. However my account shows no contributions. Could the reason be that my user name is not my email address, and my contributions have all been in response to email requests? Sincerely RABrown R1944B (talk) 19:04, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

@R1944B: If you mean donations then they are not connected to user accounts. The "Contributions" link shows your edits. Special:Contributions/R1944B now shows your above post which is your first edit. You can also edit articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:35, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

I am not knowledgeable enough to edit articles, and I did mean donations. Thank you for your prompt response. RAB R1944B (talk) 04:33, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

@R1944B Right; no one's account lists their monetary contributions to Wikipedia. Thanks for donating. David10244 (talk) 11:09, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

why use invoke?

when editing 2026–27 in English football#Managerial changes, i found several entries with {{#invoke:cite|web|...}} instead of the usual {{cite web|...}}

searching wikipedia dont give reason or guideline when to use invoke. should i turn every entries on that section to use invoke, or i change the entries that use invoke to use cite web? (edit {{cite web|...}} instead of {{cite|web|...}}) Lokiretro (talk) 10:56, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

@Lokiretro: {{#invoke:cite|web|...}} is more efficient but less editor friendly so it's usually only used when a page may break template limits otherwise. See Help:Template limits#invoke syntax. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:16, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

When using a template instead of "invoke", it should be {{cite web|...}} not {{cite|web|...}}. The latter will cause citation errors. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 11:39, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction. I should write as you suggested, I will edit my post Lokiretro (talk) 11:46, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Questions Concerning Misunderstandings about Wikepedia page creatio

Hi, my name is Juliette and I started a wikepedia accoun through wikiedu with a university class last semester. I enjoyed the experience a lot and wish to contribute more to new articles, but have a few questions concerning the last one I wrote.

The article I wrote is FOKUPERS, but,

1. When I look it up, I only see the german version, even if I have a canadian english browser, and the result of the page I wrote does not appear before the German version, which I do not understand.
2. At the start of the page the following appears: ''This article relies largely or entirely on a single source.'', but I have referenced more than 9 different sources, therefore I do not understand this aspect either.
3. When I look up the history of the page, my edits and word additions do not appear, neither does my creation of the page, which I also find pretty frustrating because I wanted to review those.

Could any of these questions be answered or reviewed for me please?

Thank you!

Juutaime2 (talk) 17:41, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

In order:

1. I don't see any reason why the de.wp article would show up if you're not on de.wp. Cross-project redirects to other language editions of Wikipedia generally aren't A Thing.
2. I agree with you on that tag, and will remove it shortly.
3. Literally everything is still there in history. This might be tied into the de.wp issue of bullet 1; you're likely looking at the history for the de.wp article.

—Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 17:44, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks a lot to the both of you for your answers! Juutaime2 (talk) 18:02, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

More information:

1. if you search for the article on Google (etc.) you won't find the new article until it has been reviewed by WP:NPP or until it is 90 days old.
2. the single source tag was added in early April, when there was only one source, so it was appropriate to remove it.
3. nothing to add. TSventon (talk) 17:56, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks a lot to the both of you for your answers! Juutaime2 (talk) 18:03, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Juutaime2, by the way, shouldn't there be a tag on the article talk page linking to the class page, as at Talk:Canadian Abortion Rights Action League. TSventon (talk) 18:47, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi this a great question! Its hard to say, I wouldn't Know how to add it, but I also went through different pages from other students in th same class and some also did not have that 'tag' such as Designing Hope or Legal Aid Manitoba.. Let me know if there is a way I can add it that you know of. Juutaime2 (talk) 13:03, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Juutaime2 Hi, it seems that {{Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment}} should be "added and updated automatically by dashboard.wikiedu.org whenever course assignments are added or removed for a particular Wiki Education course". So you should probably ask your tutor what they or you need to do. TSventon (talk) 13:37, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

@Juutaime2 Did you ask this question before, either here or at the Teahouse? David10244 (talk) 11:12, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I apologized to that. Indeed, I won't do it again. Juutaime2 (talk) 13:30, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

photographer's mark on the picture

I've uploaded a free license picture, but it has a small photographer's mark in the bottom-right corner. Is it ok? Mirenathecat (talk) 17:24, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

For reference, this seems to be about File:K (&TEAM). April 6, 2026. "The Devil Wears Prada 2" event in Tokyo.jpg. @Mirenathecat Please confirm:

1. If that is the image you are asking about.
2. If you are the photographer.
3. If you are not the photographer, can you confirm that the licensing information provided on Fliker was provided by the person who owns the copyright?

~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:32, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

1. Yes, this is the image.

2. I'm not the photographer.

3. The photographer uploaded the pictures to Flickr at my request Mirenathecat (talk) 17:38, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

And the license was discussed and agreed with the owner Mirenathecat (talk) 17:44, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

@Mirenathecat Thank you for answering my questions. I will note that our image use policy says that "Free images should not be watermarked, distorted, have any credits or titles in the image itself or anything else that would hamper their free use," and " All photo credits should be in a summary on the image description page." So we would need one without the watermark. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:48, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

So is this considered a watermark? Mirenathecat (talk) 17:51, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

I would consider it one. But I'll let others weigh in who do more image work than I do. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:00, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

It's strange that the previous time I asked the same question here the answer was "that's ok". But after that I encountered the rule you're mentioning... ~2026-33863-64 (talk) 18:07, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a crowdsourced volunteer project of considerable complexity, and anyone at all is free to give answers on this Help desk, which has no 'quality control' other than others pointing out mis-statements. Sometimes even long-experienced editors get things wrong, and newer editors, knowing less than they think they do, do so more frequently. Double-check everything against linked policy and other pages. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 03:01, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your answers and advise! Mirenathecat (talk) 16:24, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

@Mirenathecat What license, exactly, was discussed? Some things uploaded to Flickr are not licensed for commercial reuse. License holders who say, for example, "this can be used at Wikipedia but nowhere else" are misunderstanding Wikipedia's licensing requirements. Your photographer might know all of this, but it's worth verifying. David10244 (talk) 11:07, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

The picture has CC BY-SA 4.0 license. So it seems to match Wikipedia rules.

The problem was the small author's mark in the bottom-right corner. Mirenathecat (talk) 14:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Its fine that you uploaded it, but someone may just remove the watermark. That's the freedom to edit part. --GRuban (talk) 14:20, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks! Mirenathecat (talk) 15:10, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

ethics of having someone improve my page in exchange for payment

I am an economist with an existing Wikipedia page. I was recently approached by someone who says they are a regular Wikipedia contributor specializing in economics, offering to expand and improve my page. As a freelance writer, this person is asking for payment for their services. I wanted to know whether this falls within Wikipedia's ethical boundaries, and how much (if any) text I can contribute to such a project. I am also wondering whether there is any history of such offers turning out to be scams. ~2026-34511-66 (talk) 18:37, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

That is almost certainly a scam (see WP:SCAM). A regular contributor would never ask for payment. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 18:41, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

With regards to conflict of interest/paid editing in general, directly editing pages with which you have a conflict of interest is largely discouraged. But, you (or a publicist/firm) are more than welcome to use the COI edit request system to make any suggestions. ^MetalBreaks_AndBends (One for all) 21:58, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

If you would like your page expanded, I, and many other editors would probably like to help you out! End (talk) 22:19, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

AfD submission opinion

I submitted an article to AfD, but after the discussion of other editors, I myself believe the article should be kept provided it gets filtered (the article contained a lot of promotional language which I removed before doing the AfD)
I'm personally not sure what to do though, as I don't think closing this one myself is right, and I'm not super knowledgeable about the AfD rules. Link to AfD Discussion SuperCode111 (talk) 23:12, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

@SuperCode111, You don't need to worry about closing it; experienced editors will close it when the time is right. If you want to withdraw, you should comment that you are withdrawing it, followed by a reason. For now, just focus on other things. CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 23:23, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Don't delete your earlier deletion rationale, but you are free to strike it out, and to follow the struck-out rationale with a retraction. As an example (cartoonishly simple, for brevity): This article sucks. Delete it. I now realize that the subject is notable, and withdraw my nomination. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:30, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

2020s Portal Icon?

It's 2026 already and we haven't a 2020s portal icon. Do we need to wait until the decade is over? How were the decadal portals created since Wikipedia itself began? Is there a procedure, a test bed, what? Let us assume that half tech & half brain would stand for the 2020s from 2026 onward given the rise of AI. What would have served for the previous portion of the 2020s? Crypto‽ COVID-19‽ Or is there a signature toy? Etc. kencf0618 (talk) 00:30, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

P.S. Shifting to Template talk:Portal. I'm casting a wide net. kencf0618 (talk) 00:35, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:ISBN error (allegedly)

What's currently reference 10 (the one starting Hélène Roussel. "German-speaking artists) in the article Eric Isenburger brings the error message {{isbn}}: Check isbn value: invalid character (help). But the ISBN link ({{ISBN|978‑3‑11‑029058‑5}}) works as expected (or anyway does when I select WorldCat among all the options), and I (sleepily?) fail to see anything amiss. I'll now present it again, this time with no "nowiki" cloaking: ISBN 978‑3‑11‑029058‑5 {{isbn}}: Check isbn value: invalid character (help). (Ugh! But it works.) Any ideas? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:27, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

replace the U+2011: NON-BREAKING HYPHENs with U+002D: HYPHEN-MINUS.

{{ISBN|978-3-11-029058-5}} → ISBN 978-3-11-029058-5

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:46, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Facepalm Thank you, Trappist the monk. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 01:38, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

manuel of style for non fiction books

Is there a manuel of style for non fiction books? there is one for novels, but for non fiction... Vastmajority20025 (talk) 04:24, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Apparently not, @Vastmajority20025.

As you have no doubt seen, MOS:NOVEL is part of WP:WikiProject Novels, but there isn't a corresponding Wikiproject for non-fiction books. (MOS:BOOKS redirects to the obsolete WP:Manual of Style/Wikipedia books, which was about something different) ColinFine (talk) 07:23, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I would say that MOS:NOVEL could probably be applied pretty well to non-fiction books, plot and principle characters would be less relevant but the rest all makes sense. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 07:38, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Mistake

You have a “Steven Hayes Dacus” called the first foreign CEO of “Speedway” and you have him born in America? Not ~2026-34604-42 (talk) 13:50, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-34604-42: I guess you mean Stephen Dacus. If you saw a page claiming he is the first foreign CEO of "Speedway" then please link it. There are pages saying he is the first foreign CEO of Seven & I Holdings but that's a Japanese company which owns Speedway (store). PrimeHunter (talk) 14:33, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

There appears to be no mention of a Steven Hayes Dacus in any Wikipedia article, and we have a sizeable number of different articles about entities which use the name 'Speedway'. Which article are you talking about? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 14:34, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Removal of spaces from infobox

I have noticed a large number of edits removing spaces from infoboxes, which makes them more difficult to edit using Wikitext editor. I have just asked an editor why they were removing these spaces and was told that they were not removing them, despite the diff showing that they were being removed. I asked if they were using the visual editor, and was told that they were. Could someone confirm whether this is a deliberate function of the visual editor, and, if so, why it was so programmed, as it makes no difference to edits using the visual editor, but makes editing Wikitext more difficult. - Arjayay (talk) 10:18, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, this is the way Visual Editor behaves when it edits the content of a template. It appears to read all the fields in and then write them all out again without keeping track of spaces at the end of a field. I suspect it was the simplest way to implement the function of editing the content of templates. References, so important on the English Wikipedia, seemed to be an afterthought in the design of VE. StarryGrandma (talk) 17:49, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Overall Quality of Huamea Controversy Page

I was looking at this page: Controversy over the discovery of Haumea

To me it reads like a story, has bad tone, and includes a lot of irrelevant information. The majority of the references do not support the content, or are broken. I have marked the page as such, but since it is marked as a "good article" I just want to double check that I'm doing the right thing (I haven't added tags to an article before). I wrote in the talk page that I'll wait 14 days before restructuring.

It would be great to have someone quickly check the article to see if my concerns are correct. BennBluee (talk) 15:46, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

It seems to have become a GA in 2009, when Wikipedia's standards were very different.

If I were you, the first step would be to reassess the article against the good article criteria and strip its GA status if need be (there's no need to have any special status or permissions to do this) Athanelar (talk) 17:24, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

"It seems to have become a GA in 2009, when Wikipedia's standards were very different." Unless you mean "the same words today mean something different than they did 16 years ago" or "the underlying policies and guidelines linked to the GA criteria (e.g. RS, MOS, etc.) have changed" (...I'd buy that, to an extent, so I assume this is the kind of thing you mean), the GA criteria themselves are actually virtually identical to what they were in 2009--the only change appears to be a clarification that there shouldn't be any copyvios in the article (which feels like a given even back then). Other than that, even their wording hasn't changed. - Purplewowies (talk) 07:35, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

@BennBluee Actualy, it failed 3 times and then passed at Talk:Controversy_over_the_discovery_of_Haumea/GA4 in 2010. You could check whether the passed version is substantially different from the current one. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:28, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Will do, thanks! BennBluee (talk) 17:29, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Please read and digest Wikipedia:Good article reassessment, BennBluee, and proceed accordingly. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 08:53, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Deleting the two wikipedia pages

Good afternoon, I have written two wikipedia articles on wikipedia. I would like them to be deleted. I would like Maria Esta En Peligro the article that I have written will be deleted, Sandyndimyvette (talk) 23:38, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

You have not written any mainspace articles on Wikipedia. You have written in your own sandbox, which you are perfectly allowed to delete on your own. GarethBaloney (talk) 23:45, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I've deleted as requested Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:54, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Disabling Media Viewer for registered users

Has the option to disable Media Viewer for registered users been removed? Whenever I click on an image it displays in Media Viewer and there seems no way to turn it off. There used to be an option under Preferences|Appearance to disable it, but that seems to have disappeared. WP:Media Viewer and its associated talk page are no help. There's some information at the foot of that page about adding some code to global.js but I tried that and it didn't work. --Viennese Waltz 10:00, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Nothing has changed for accounts that have already disabled it. I can't speak to the possibility of disabling it, but when I click on an image, I go straight to the image description page, just as I have ever since disabling it originally. Nyttend (talk) 20:16, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

Lucky you. I also disabled it years ago, but now when I click on any image it opens in Media Viewer. Please could you check your Preferences > Appearance page? Do you have a box to enable or disable it, like this one? --Viennese Waltz 07:49, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

User:Viennese Waltz, here's everything I get on that page. Edit the page to see the lines properly; it would take a long time to format it so it looks right when fully rendered.

Extended content

MonoBook (Talk | Preview | Custom CSS | Custom JavaScript) Vector (2022) (default | Discussion | Preview | Custom CSS | Custom JavaScript) Vector legacy (2010) (Preview | Custom CSS | Custom JavaScript) MinervaNeue (Discussion | Preview | Custom CSS | Custom JavaScript) Timeless (Talk | Preview | Custom CSS | Custom JavaScript) Shared CSS/JavaScript for all skins: Custom CSS | Custom JavaScript Shared CSS/JavaScript for all wikis (more information): Custom CSS | Custom JavaScript Skin preferences Enable responsive mode Adapt layout to screen size on mobile. Reading preferences Enable page previews (get quick previews of a topic while reading a page) You have to disable the Navigation popups gadget in your Gadgets preferences to enable page previews. Enable reference previews (get quick previews of a reference while reading a page) You have the Navigation popups and Reference Tooltips gadgets enabled, so you won't see previews provided by this feature. Depending on your wiki, the gadgets may have slightly different names. If you continue to experience issues, please review your gadgets and user scripts, including global ones. Date format No preference 12:01, June 9, 2026 12:01, 9 June 2026 12:01, 2026 June 9 2026-06-09T12:01:04 Time offset Server time: 12:01 Local time: 12:01 Time zone: Files Image size limit on file description pages: Thumbnail size: Some users may prefer thumbnails which are smaller or larger than normal. Regular size is 250 pixels. Diffs Don't show page content below diffs Don't show diff after performing a rollback Don't show the revision slider Advanced options Underline links: Show hidden categories Show a confirmation prompt when clicking on a rollback link Always enable safe mode Disable on-wiki scripts and stylesheets. Enable the user info card Show a button next to usernames to open a popover with information about an account. Math LaTeX source (for text browsers) MathML (experimental; no images) Client side MathJax rendering (for browsers with limited MathML support) SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin) Explain mathematical formulae on hover. Languages Use a compact language list, with languages relevant to you

I can't see anything relevant. Nyttend (talk) 12:02, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Exactly. So, as I suspected, the option to disable Media Viewer has been removed for registered users. --Viennese Waltz 02:10, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

A workaround: add the following line to your Special:MyPage/common.js page:

::mw.config.set('wgMediaViewerOnClick', false);
::

This disables Media Viewer on click without needing the preference toggle. Alternatively, check Special:Preferences → Appearance — on some wikis the checkbox may still appear there. If you'd like the option restored for all users, filing a report at Phabricator under the MediaWiki Media Viewer project would be the right channel. Musiceditor2038 (talk) 14:55, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Rikki Peebles

Rikki Peebles sang the song for the uk 1987 entry he has written many tracks for other groups released his own music and doesn't have a wikipedia page can anyone set one up ? Tonyhitmantaylor1969 (talk) 22:13, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Tonyhitmantaylor1969, and welcome to the Teahouse.

Thank you for your suggestion, but there is not really an effective place to make this sort of suggestion. (There is a place, called requested articles, but the truth is that most suggestions there never get picked up).

Some of your wording, "have a Wikipedia page", and "set one up", makes me think that, like many people, you think of Wikipedia as a bit like social media, where people "set up a page for" themselves or their friends. But it really isn't like that. The basic activity is not "set up a page for", but "write a well-sourced neutral encyclopaedia article about" - which is a task that takes a good bit of work.

The article should be based not on what the person says or wants to say, or what their friends or associates say, but almost exclusively on what people who have no connection with the person have chosen to publish about them in reliable publications. So the task of creating such an article starts with finding sources about the subject, sourcs that meet all the conditions in WP:42. Unfortunately, for most people - even artists and creative people - there is simply not enough independent material published about them, and so no article is possible (the Wikipedia jargon for this is whether they are or are not notable).

So for somebody to write an article about Peebles, they would need to start by finding several places where people unconnected with him have published in some depth about him. ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

There was an article on English Wikipedia at Rikki (British singer)Rikki (British singer), however it was changed to a redirect as not notable. Other Wikipedias have different rules so there is a German article at de:Rikki (Sänger), for example. TSventon (talk) 14:00, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Just to add to what ColinFine and TSventon have said — the Eurovision connection is actually one of the stronger notability angles here, since the UK entry receives substantial press coverage. If you're keen to see an article created, the most productive thing would be to search for independent sources first. Some good places to look:

British Newspaper Archive (newspapers.com / britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk) — contemporary 1987 reviews and press coverage of the Eurovision entry would count as strong sources.

BBC archives / iPlayer — BBC coverage of the Eurovision selection process.

Music press — Smash Hits, Record Mirror, NME from that era may have features.

OGAE / Eurovision reference sites — these catalogue entries but are usually not considered reliable independent sources on their own.

If you can find three or four substantial pieces where journalists who have no connection to Rikki wrote about him in depth, that would be enough to make a case for notability and someone — possibly even yourself — could draft an article. Wikipedia has a Your first article guide if you'd like to try. The existing redirect at Rikki (British singer) could potentially be restored to an article if sourcing is found. ColinFine's point about WP:42 is the key test to keep in mind throughout. Musiceditor2038 (talk) 15:10, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Rikki Peebles – sources and notability for a potential Wikipedia article

Discussing whether Rikki Peebles, the singer who performed the UK's 1987 Eurovision Song Contest entry "Only the Light", meets Wikipedia's notability requirements, and how to find the independent reliable sources needed to create or restore an article about him. Musiceditor2038 (talk) 15:14, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

@Musiceditor2038: I have added this question to the previous discussion, where you seem to have answered it. TSventon (talk) 15:45, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

How do I submit fair use into the photo wizaed

🫃 .noosenecklace (talk) 18:05, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

How to find character count on an article

Iim not sure how to search an article for word count. Ive already tried going to page information about this article Stanley Green. (I was reviewing the WP:DYK page and it said the critieria must be at least 1500 characters). Im not sure what but I believe Im using the source editor tool. Ilikememes128 (talk) 19:07, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Ilikememes128 the detailed DYK guidance is at WP:DYKCRIT, with a section on prose size at WP:DYKPROSE. That section says Wikipedia:Did you know/DYKcheck, the DYK check tool, is generally considered the authoritative counter of prose size. TSventon (talk) 19:15, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

The tool also checks newness: Stanley Green has not been created or expanded 5x or promoted to Good Article within the past 10 days, so it is not currently eligible for DYK. TSventon (talk) 19:21, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Typo on the Main Page

The Main Page currently has a typo on the section “From today's featured article”. It says “William IV's British coinage, struck between 1831 and 1837” rather than “William IV's British coinage, struck between  1831 and 1837” which is the correct spelling. I would like this to be changed, for I am willing to ask whatever I can to help reach the Typo Team’s goal; a typo free Wikipedia. Γ+2 (talk) 18:43, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Maybe I'm just blind, but where's the typo? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 19:26, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I honestly have no clue why that happens, I might be going insane but I suggest you add a space. Here is where the error is: Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 13, 2026 and if you don’t see it I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe it’s just some kind of mobile rendering issue. Γ+2 (talk) 19:29, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

This is at WP:ERRORS. which is the correct venue. I can't see a problem, but I am not using a mobile. TSventon (talk) 19:35, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

It got deleted from WP:ERRORS, WHAT??? Γ+2 (talk) 19:38, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

No wait, it got REVIVED!!! Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors#Today's FA Γ+2 (talk) 19:48, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

WAIT IT’S FIXED NOW Γ+2 (talk) 19:57, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

This isn't so much a typo as a problem in whatever you're viewing it with - there's a thin space character between "between" and "1831". (Also in both versions of what you pasted above, with a normal space after the thin space in the second version.) The choice of a thin space instead of a normal one is apparently deliberate. I take it that it's not rendering as any space at all for you? —Cryptic 19:46, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes. Regardless, there is absolutely no reason for a thin space to be used instead of a normal one. Anyways, it has already been fixed by an admin. Γ+2 (talk) 19:59, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Ruolin

Does anyone know if the lead for Ruolin is written correctly? --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:23, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Jax 0677, Ruolin seems to be a Chinese female given name, so I would find a similar name, like Ailing (Chinese name) and adapt it. TSventon (talk) 20:32, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I have adapted the article, other editors are welcome to improve further. TSventon (talk) 21:02, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I've added some material to the article. I'm going to create a talk page for the article to discuss more there. Calisyrre (talk) 21:58, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Hey how are you ? What’s the best email to send for a complaint

False information ~2026-34687-31 (talk) 17:12, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Unless it's somehow sensitive false information, probably the best place to start is the Talk page for the article in question. DonIago (talk) 17:18, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

or just fit it yourself -- D'n'B-📞 -- 05:52, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Just say "Hey, I am unhappy with X,Y, and Z and I want this fixed." MathMan4 (talk) 05:58, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

No. Do not just say this. Specify what is false. Give a good reason for saying that it's false. If the corrected version isn't obvious, then specify it and present a reliable source for it. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 08:50, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

"Please change X to Y because Z, as supported by source S." DonIago (talk) 00:18, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Density (disambiguation) isn't really a disambig

I feel that the Density (disambiguation) article isn't really a disambig page, but something hybrid - almost all the entries refer inherently to a measure of how much of some entity is within a fixed amount of space, and as such could be an article or stub referring to that topic. Seems that the only real disambig comments are at the bottom of the article, and that a true disambig article on "density" would realistically consist of five entries:

• Density
• a new article "List of density meanings" - or something
• Stupidity, a stupid person is sometimes referred to as being "dense"
• Dense (film), a 2004 film
• Density 21.5 – a piece of music for solo flute written by Edgard Varèse

I could have brought this up on the disambig talk page itself, but pageviews don't warrant it.

Does this seem reasonable, or to a deeper understanding of disambig - is this exactly the point of a disambig article? Chaheel Riens (talk) 18:22, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

@Chaheel Riens: That page is a real mess. I'm going to try cleaning it up. Also, some of your "dense" entries don't belong. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:12, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Leody de Guzman

Reference help requested.

Thanks, please help me fix it Anakbanwa (talk) 04:13, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Fixed. It looks like you put the name of the news site in the "First" and "Last" name parts; that's actually for the reporter (e.g. first=John |last=Laurens). If you don't know the author, like in this case, you can just leave them blank. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 05:38, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on David Michael San Juan

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Please help me fix this Anakbanwa (talk) 04:12, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Fixed. Same error as below. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 05:44, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

A beginner's question: how do I add stylized text like "This article is about ___. For the ___ see ___ (____)" to the beginning of a page?

The text doesn't show in the editor. ~2026-34251-92 (talk) 16:05, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Those are called "hatnotes". They're added by templates placed at the top of the page. See WP:HATNOTE for more information. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 16:09, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

The specific template to use for that specific message is {{About}}. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 09:45, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I found some URLs that can probably be fixed by bot edits and I don't know how to go about that

I have been looking up local plants recently, and noticed a fair number that have external links to a USDA plant database in an old format that is no longer valid. The actual link gives an error, but the URL has an identifier that makes it possible for a regex to replace broken links with valid links. Here are some examples:

Wiki page: Arctostaphylos_nevadensis Old URL: https://plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=ARNE Valid URL: https://plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/plant-profile/ARNE

Wiki page: Agave_utahensis Old URL: https://plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=AGUT Valid URL: https://plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/plant-profile/AGUT

Wiki page: Acmispon_glaber Old URL: https://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=LOSC2 Valid URL: https://plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/plant-profile/LOSC2

I am asking for help for two reasons: 1) I have never done this before, so it's a lot of overhead getting off the ground. But there surely must be someone else familiar with scripts to edit wikipedia that can adapt them to do this pretty quickly. 2) I worry that masses of edits coming in will flag some antispam measures and block them. So far, I don't have a lot of good ideas about how to identify pages that have this specific type of fixable URL. There are certainly categories that seem more likely than others (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Endemic_flora_of_the_United_States comes to mind) but Agave Utahensis wasn't in that category, so it's not a sure thing.

Example python for the basic regex replacement:

Extended content

   import re
   def main():
       test_urls = ["https://plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=ARNE",
                    "https://plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=AGUT",
                    "https://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=LOSC2",
                    "https://plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/plant-profile/ARNE"] # should not match this one
   
       # (?:\.sc\.egov)? is a non-capturing group to match the .sc.egov that doesnt't always appear
       pattern = re.compile(r'https://plants(?:\.sc\.egov)?\.usda\.gov/java/profile\?symbol=([A-Z1-9]+)')
       for url in test_urls:
           match = pattern.match(url)
           if match:
               print(match.group(0), "\t", "https://plants.sc.egov.usda.gov/plant-profile/" + match.group(1))
   
   main()

~2026-34986-55 (talk) 21:31, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Post your suggestion at WP:BOTREQ to see if this is a good task for a bot and if so someone may have a bot do this RudolfRed (talk) 21:48, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Or WP:URLREQ * Pppery * _{(alt) in solidarity} 01:17, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

If the edits are unsuitable for a URL request or a bot, perhaps because they require manual checking, and there are hundreds rather than thousands of them, then WP:AWB/T is an alternative place to ask. Certes (talk) 12:02, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

What links here

Hi, please consider the page Berkeley Timesharing System. The question "what links here" produces a list . Is the average frequency of the links kept anywhere? How is that list sorted? Thanks in advance. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Yesterday, all my dreams....

What do you mean by "the average frequency of the links"? They're just links: they don't change (unless somebody edits an article), and they don't have a frequency. ColinFine (talk) 19:36, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi. If you look at it states that the page was viewed 157 times in the last month. I was wondering how many of those 157 came from Multics vs Memory paging last month. Does that clarify my question? Thanks Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 23:35, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Please see the wikinav tool below. Cheers. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 13:42, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

@Yesterday, all my dreams...: The top right of WhatLinksHere has a "Help" where Help:What links here#Overview says: "The list is sorted by page ID, i.e., by date of creation of the page." The search linksto:"Berkeley Timesharing System" can give four sort orders under "Advanced search". User:PrimeHunter/Search sort.js can give ten sort orders. See also mw:Help:CirrusSearch#Explicit sort orders. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:19, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

OK, but do any of those give what I mentioned to Colin above? Are those numbers even saved anywhere? Thanks Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 23:37, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

If I remember rightly, WhatLinksHere lists pages by the sequence in which they were created: the oldest page appears at the top. For some reason, the counter gets reset when a page is deleted and restored, so if I deleted Multics and restored it (even immediately), it would go from position #1 to position #75. Nyttend (talk) 10:08, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

You are right about how that works, I think. But as is Multics does not have a number 27 next to it that says in the last month 27 clicks within Multics led to the page Berkeley Timesharing. I wonder if that number 27 is stored anywhere and gets updated every month. Thanks. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 13:07, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Such a thing is theoretically possible for a webpage — my library's Primo discovery layer can report how many people clicked on a specific link on a specific page — but the Wikimedia developers don't generally publish this kind of data. If you talked with one of them, you could ask I suppose, but (1) given the size of Wikipedia, I can't imagine them systematically publishing this kind of data, and it's hard to imagine them publishing even a subset of it routinely; (2) be aware that there's a significance chance that a request for a single bit of data might be turned down; and (3) I have no idea who the developers are, so you'd have to go find some of them yourself. Nyttend (talk) 12:10, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, and please see the tool mentioned below. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 12:50, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

WikiNav may provide the answers you seek. If not then you can download the raw Clickstream data to perform custom analysis. Certes (talk) 12:28, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

In one word: Fantastic. The results it gives are eye opening. I tried Leonard Kleinrock and most links to him come from Claude Shannon, not the Arpanet. The existence of this system should be publicized, it is eye opening indeed. Thanks. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 12:49, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Wow. I'm profoundly surprised that they publish this kind of information. Special:Statistics shows that we had 65,749,430 pages a few moments ago; I wonder if it's possible to generate a report for all of them? Now that I see the format, I'm less surprised, however; I envisioned a single file providing data for each pair of pages — I expected something such as "In TIMEPERIOD, Alnus acuminata was accessed 0 times via List of deputies general of Álava". Nyttend (talk) 22:02, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

The report for all pages is here. It excludes pairs with fewer than ten clicks for privacy reasons (and to keep the file size reasonable). It only covers mainspace (potentially 7,193,000 articles and 377,000 dabs, though rarely visited pages will not appear). An old version that I have stored contains 20 million internal pairs. Views via redirects are counted with their target rather than separately. Certes (talk) 08:54, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

By the way, who wrote that tool? You? It is very useful. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 17:05, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

WikiNav is not my work. There is a list of developers at the bottom of its page. Certes (talk) 12:05, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, I had already noticed that. And on Village pump ideas, someone said it is being ignored by the developers. Sigh... I have already learned a lot by using it. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 13:29, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

@Yesterday, all my dreams...: There's a gadget that can be enabled in the user preferences called MoreMenu which adds a set of common analysis tools to the page menu. It does not include WikiNav by default, but perhaps its maintainer (I think that's MusikAnimal) could be persuaded to add it?

Even if not, it is possible to add it manually just for yourself, if you're interested. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 22:22, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks but I have bookmarked that page and remember the url as well. Yesterday, all my dreams... (talk) 17:03, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Re-classifying articles after considerable changes

What's best practice for changing article classes on the talk page after big changes? I've done a bunch of destubbing of articles over the years (expanding, adding in-line cites, adding citations needed, etc.), and I'm not quite sure what the preferred approach is. Do I just remove the class on the talk page after a big change for an impartial editor to re-class it, or am I expected to make my own interpretation? --Engineerchange (talk) 15:35, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Per WP:ASSESS, you're allowed to assign any rating to any article (including ones you have written all or much of), up until B-class. If someone disagrees with you, they may re-rate it. For classes above B, you need to go through a formal review process (WP:GAN or WP:FAC) before the article can be rated as such.
The stub-B class criteria are pretty subjective anyway, and only really useful as a general indicator rather than a certification of quality. Just use common sense {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs|in solidarity}} 15:39, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I would (and do) use the WP:RATER tool for rating articles from stub to B class. TSventon (talk) 15:49, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Added the WP:RATER tool. Thank you both, --Engineerchange (talk) 16:39, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Need to change email, but the address I registered with is dead

Hi! I've been inactive for a long time but would like to edit occasionally. My old email (NawlinWiki@cox.net) is from a provider that no longer provides email, so that address is dead. I can't change it because when I try to, the system prompts me for a 2FA link sent by email to the dead address. Is there a fix for this? Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) NawlinWiki (talk) 20:04, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Sounds like a question for WP:VPT. I'll move this over there. Nyttend (talk) 23:44, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Masters France

Reference help requested. Hi Helpers. Could you please explain to me how I fix this error. I'm a relative newcomer, and still a bit puzzled by some of the computer code. Thanks. Thanks, Dropbear2 (talk) 03:06, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Two references had errors, Dropbear2. The two references were very similar to each other, and had the same problems. I fixed one of the two references. Take a look at what I did, and apply it to the other reference: what is now "SUIVEZ LES FRANÇAIS À TOULOUSE" (and, as (i) readers don't like to be shouted at, and (ii) Wikipedia is under no obligation to mimic bad website practice, should instead be "Suivez les français à Toulouse"). If you encounter a problem, post a follow-up message here. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 09:13, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the help Hoary. I've fixed the second reference, following your example, and it has worked. One more Wiki skill gained. And go the WWU!! All the best. Dropbear2 (talk) 00:03, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Numerical sorting in a table

See Talk:List of mountains of Alberta where a TA has pointed out that the mountains sort by height in two separate groups, those with commas after the thousands place in their height figures and those without. I gather this can be fixed by inserting data-sort-type="number" in the relevant column headers, but when I did so (trying various places in the line containing the column heading, because the syntax of the header definitions doesn’t look the same as the example I was trying to follow) it just made a mess. A possible complicating factor is that each row is generated by a template, not in plain wikitext. Can someone point me to a similar table that would make a good model to emulate?—Odysseus1479 04:49, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Answered at Talk:List of mountains of Alberta#List of mountains formatting. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:47, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Input my name?

Brian Tillie ~2026-34905-01 (talk) 10:18, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Brian, it's not clear what you are asking. Are you asking how to create a free Wikipedia account? If so, see Wikipedia:Create account qcne (talk) 10:23, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-34905-01.

I'm guessing that you mean that you want there to be an article about you in Wikipedia.

First, please notice that Wikipedia only hosts articles about subject which are notable in the special sense that Wikipedia uses that word: mostly it means that there is enough wholly independent material published about the subject in reliable sources to base an article on. Most people in the world do not meet those criteria, and no article about them is possible. (I don't, even though I am mentioned in a Wikipedia article).

If you do meet those criteria, then it is possible for there to be an article about you. Unfortunately, as this is a volunteer project, there is no reliable way to cause this to happen. You could put a request at requested articles - but in all honesty, requests there are rarely taken up.

You are permitted to try and write an article about yourself, but again being honest, your chances of success are small, even if you had experience in the challenging task of creating a Wikipedia article - and you are strongly discouraged from trying it: see autobiography.

Overall, my advice is to forget about appearing in Wikipedia. If you are notable (in Wikipedia's sense) then at some point somebody will write an article about you.

One more point: now you have expressed an interest in there being an article about you (assuming my guess is correct) you may be approached by somebody wanting to write an article for money. If this happens, it is almost certainly a scam: see WP:SCAM. ColinFine (talk) 15:14, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Why do my edits keep disappearing

All of my edits keep disappearing ~2026-35241-63 (talk) 20:17, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

It looks like one of your edits was reverted because you removed the references without adequately explaining why. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 20:20, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-35241-63: If your edits were saved then click the "View history" tab on the page to see what happened. Your current temporary account only has three edits at Special:Contributions/~2026-35241-63. The first was reverted here, probably because you removed all references, external links and categories. Wikipedia articles must have references. Your second edit wasn't reverted although it may be because it has no reference, and the third was the above question which wasn't reverted either. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:56, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Looking at the article, I'm doubtful as to whether it actually meets our notability criteria, and the use of primary-source court documents in the manner found there is almost certainly contrary to policy - see WP:BLPPRIMARY. Looking at the article history, it appears that the NICA article was created from the start to highlight the court case, rather than as a general article on the organisation, and though standards back in 2006 were much more lax, such coatracking is contrary to policy now. It needs substantial rewriting if it is ever to meet current standards, providing better evidence of the organisation's notability, and the coverage of the court case, if included, needs proper Wikipedia-policy-compliant sourcing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:15, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Rebirth of Mothra

Reference help requested. The ISBN for a magazine Special Graphix Magazine, by a Japanese publisher, gives the ISBN:T1065429731804. I've checked a few times to make sure this is what the published material says. How do you fix the error issue when the ISBN detection is not verifying? Thanks, SeminarianJohn (talk) 07:48, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

That isn't an ISBN, SeminarianJohn. It doesn't even resemble one. (The publisher may specify it as something other than an ISBN.) A Japanese ISBN is normally a 13-digit code starting "9784". (I haven't noticed any that start "9794", but am not certain that none exist.) An older one would be a 10-digit code starting "4".) Only a minority of individual issues of Japanese magazines have ISBNs. You might look up this issue of this magazine (as a "book") in CiNii: CiNii will provide the ISBN for it if there is one. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 08:51, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you @Hoary for the feedback and help. If no ISBN is available, is there another "box" that is used for magazine? Could this be a type of "serial" number? I'm going to try and look up the ISBN using the resource you provided. SeminarianJohn (talk) 20:01, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @SeminarianJohn.

Modern magazines have an ISSN, and Template:infobox magazine recognises issn as a parameter-name. I'm not familiar with the format, so I don't know if the number you have might be an ISSN. ColinFine (talk) 20:30, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! I am going to try this to fix the issue. SeminarianJohn (talk) 21:28, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I think using a serial number worked. SeminarianJohn (talk) 21:43, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I found the ISBN for the magazine series with CiNii. Thank you! SeminarianJohn (talk) 21:49, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

User:Hoary and User:SeminarianJohn, as a librarian, most of the ISBN-13s I see are 978xxxxxxxxxx, but occasionally I've seen 979xxxxxxxxxx. ISSNs are XXXX-XXXX; I don't work with them enough to know if there's a numerical sequence, comparable to 978, that often appears anywhere in ISSNs. I'm on a break at work (computer's installing updates ☹️) and have been dealing with serials this morning, and I've not noticed any numerical patterns with them. However, ISBN-10s don't typically begin with a 4. As you note, most digits in a 13 are the same as in the analogous 10, with three digits tacked on at the start, so the fourth digit of a 13 will be identical to the first digit of a 10. I just pulled up a sheet of 70,000+ ebooks on my personal laptop, and a brief Excel function showed me that they had 50,000+ associated print ISBNs, but not one of them began with 9784. Nyttend (talk) 00:00, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Nyttend, my copy of [pauses while he picks a book off the shelf] the Japan-published dead-tree codex 夢の翳 塩谷定好の写真1899–1988 is ISBN 978-4-7630-1920-2. (This is confirmed at NCID BB2911521X.) Optionally with a hyphen, "9784" is the standard start for a Japan-published book. (Simply, "4" means Japan. I know nothing about Japan-published ebooks.) It occurs to me that "T1065429731804" might be some general product code (a code not specific to printed matter or electronic versions thereof). -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:54, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Interesting; I've not worked with Japanese publications. The fourth digit is related to the country or language of publication (ISBN#Overview), so I guess Japan or Japanese-language books indeed get assigned there. But I misread your initial post as saying that all ISBNs began with 4, or 9784; sorry about that. Nyttend (talk) 01:12, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, everyone. I found multiple answers to my questions with your input. The T1 number is a type of serial number (or product number) and there is an ISBN for the series magazine. SeminarianJohn (talk) 00:54, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

how to know particular article page edited by me

i have edited Beyond the Clouds (2017 film). if i again visit article page, is there anyway to know if i edited page in the past without visiting article revision history ? কল্কি (talk) 03:05, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

If it was on a different account, then no, unless you check the contributions of that account. If it was on this one, you can check here. But according to that, you've only edited the article once, back in March. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 03:11, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

so i need to check user contributions. if there are more than 500, i am in trouble ! কল্কি (talk) 03:46, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

@কল্কি: there are newer/est & older/est links immediately above & below the list on every contributions page, which will take you to more pages of the same length. (If there are fewer contributions than the maximum chosen, or when you’re already at the first or last page, the relevant links will be deactivated.)—Odysseus1479 05:00, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

কল্কি, you can have more than 500. Go to the page history and select the 500 option, and you're at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beyond_the_Clouds_(2017_film)&action=history&offset=&limit=500. Just tweak the URL and you can have more, e.g. adding a zero gives you 5000 revisions, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beyond_the_Clouds_(2017_film)&action=history&offset=&limit=5000. That doesn't have any effect here, since it has just 313 revisions, but if you visit a page with many more revisions, this could simplify searching. But be aware that it can take much longer for the servers to render a list of 5000 revisions. You can change the "500" to any other number, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beyond_the_Clouds_(2017_film)&action=history&limit=174 offers you 174 revisions, has a link for "older 174", etc. Nyttend (talk) 11:04, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

@কল্কি: You can use the Sigma tool to find all edits to a page by one account. Certes (talk) 13:20, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

created a simple greasemonkey script and uploaded at https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/582917-universal-mediawiki-edit-checker -কল্কি (talk) 02:03, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

wikimedia categories for Paris?

a few years ago I posted some pics of architectural details on buildings in France, and there were scores of categories and subcategories. I can't locate that webpage. where is it? ~2026-35282-91 (talk) 15:44, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

You may be looking for Wikimedia Commons, they have categories about Paris, including Commons:Category:Architectural elements in Paris. TSventon (talk) 15:53, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

that's it. thank you.  :) ~2026-35282-91 (talk) 16:26, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Should I cite Commons and how?

I'm trying to add a citation to the uncited claim that Charles-François Dumouriez is buried in Henley in the Henley-on-Thames notable people. On Commons there is an image of his monument in St. Mary church in Henley. The first line of the monument is "HIC JACET", which google translate tells me means "here he lies".

Is the image an appropriate source and if so, how should I cite it? TomJB1 (talk) 13:50, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

@TomJB1 There is {{cite sign}} that's used for gravestones etc. You need to cite the original monument with its location in the church, not the file on Commons. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:49, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Well found, Mike. I didn't think to look for such a template via categories. (The "1 new comment" flag came up while I was completing the post below, but for some reason Wikipedia wouldn't show it to me. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 16:56, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, that looks like the right answer TomJB1 (talk) 17:57, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

It's an interesting question. None of the examples in Wikipedia:Citing sources or templates in Wikipedia:Citation templates seem to fit, but I would argue that a monument in a publicly-accessible location is unarguably a published reliable source, since anyone could go and see it for themself; the citation would merely have to specify the Church's location (equivalent to a 'holding library'), name ('title'), and the monument's position in the building ('page number'). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 16:52, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Gondi (food)

Reference help requested. I don't know how to add in the necessary information -- this is my first time adding a completely new source. Thanks, Sheepish Lord of Chaos (talk) 17:44, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Sheepish Lord of Chaos you have added a url, as a minimum, you need to add a title, e.g. |title=Can Persian Jews Eat Beans on Pessah? However, I wonder whether "The Dreamy Kalimi" is a Wikipedia:Reliable source? TSventon (talk) 18:10, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

He crowdsources his information from the community, as explained in the video. But if a print source is required, here's one that says the same thing: https://www.atlantajewishtimes.com/passover-recipes-persian-jewish-flavors/ Sheepish Lord of Chaos (talk) 18:14, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

I haven't watched the video. The problem is that it looks like a self published source and Wikipedia generally does not regard them as reliable, see WP:RSSELF. The Atlanta Jewish Times has an editor, so it appears to be a stronger source. TSventon (talk) 18:47, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Edit notice move request

Hi,

I recently moved the Next Palestinian legislative election article to 2026 Palestinian legislative election. After moving it, on the Move succeeded page, I read a notice about moving this template Template:Editnotices/Page/Next Palestinian legislative election to Template:Editnotices/Page/2026 Palestinian legislative election, but I lack the permission to do so.

Thank you for any help, David O. Johnson (talk) 20:44, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for alerting people via the "help desk", David O. Johnson. I've moved the template. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:27, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

VisualEditor stuck loading

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T429355

So I've been having an issue the last few days on the 2026 Michigan House of Representatives election article, pretty much ever since Friday (June 12th) when I tried to edit it originally, and that would be whenever I try to edit it, the loading bar for the visualeditor just gets completely stuck while loading. I've cleared the cache of my browser, logged into Wikipedia on a separate browser and tried to edit it, let the article load for a while, and it would just never finished loading. When I tried to edit the article through the source editor, I was allowed to just fine, but I just keep having issues with the visualeditor.

That would also be the only article I have this issue, all the other articles that I'm a frequent editor of let me edit them just fine. I thought it was an issue that would just go away after a few days, but at this point, I'm just completely lost on whether it's an issue on my end or the article. When I was trying to look up help, the only thing I got was this Reddit post, but their solution didn't work for me and, for whatever reason, my problem is only with one article and not multiple. ABlitzz (talk) 12:44, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Its not just you - the visual editor doesn't load for me on 2026 Michigan House of Representatives election either but it works on many other pages. TomJB1 (talk) 14:37, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

I'll checked, it logs an error in the brwoser console.

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    VeCeBranchNode ve.ce.BranchNode.js:35
    VeCeContentBranchNode ve.ce.ContentBranchNode.js:27
    VeCeHeadingNode ve.ce.HeadingNode.js:18
    VeCeMWHeadingNode ve.ce.MWHeadingNode.js:19
    create oojs.js:1683
    createFromModel ve.ce.NodeFactory.js:68
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    onSplice ve.ce.BranchNode.js:206
    VeCeBranchNode ve.ce.BranchNode.js:35
    VeCeDocumentNode ve.ce.DocumentNode.js:23
    VeCeDocument ve.ce.Document.js:19
    VeCeSurface ve.ce.Surface.js:29
    createView ve.ui.Surface.js:364
    VeUiSurface ve.ui.Surface.js:86
    VeUiMWSurface ve.ui.MWSurface.js:18
    createSurface ve.init.mw.Target.js:337
    createSurface ve.init.mw.ArticleTarget.js:1910
    addSurface ve.init.Target.js:661
    addSurface ve.init.mw.Target.js:390
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I'l check and file a phab task if there isn't one, as the visual editor realy shouldn't throw errors that are invisible to the normal user. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:02, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

phab:T429355. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:18, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! Can't wait until I'm actually able to edit with my preferred way again ABlitzz (talk) 15:41, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

This should be fixed now! DLynch (WMF) (talk) 22:36, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Just checked and it's back to working normally, thank you! ABlitzz (talk) 22:52, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Lost my password

[Deleted by author]

This isn't the place for password recovery, I suggest you to use the password recovery options in Special:UserLogin. WereWolf (talk) (contribs) 02:57, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

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Why is my talk page archive not showing archives past Jan 2026?

Hi all,

I have a talk page archive set up that is supposed to create archives for old message according to their month posted. It worked up until January 2026, and seems to have stopped populating the archives on the displayed box.

Here is the source text for the archive:

{{User:MiszaBot/config
| algo          = old(10d)
| archive       = User talk:Bravelake/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s
| archiveheader = {{Monthly archive list}}
}}

Thanks for any help on how to fix this. Bravelake (talk) 03:58, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

The bot was still archiving them. The archive box wasn't showing them because it was pointing to your old name, which I've fixed here. The reason the archive box was still showing any links at all is that pages prior to February that were created at your old name existed as redirects. - Purplewowies (talk) 05:36, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Unable to contribute

Hello Team, We are unable to contribute the topic for our institute but i am putting the information all are real, but i know i am doing some mistakes, thats why continue its replaced. and removed the content. request you kindly help us to make complete this. Biswajit Kol (talk) 11:31, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

The article at Praxis Business School, Kolkata is severely sub-standard by modern Wikipedia policy as it does not show how the business school is notabe in the way that would now be required. What you have added to your Talk Page is even less acceptable, as it has no sources that are independent of the school (see this guidance). Additionally, if you are an employee or otherwise related to the school, it is a part of Wikimedia's terms of use that you formally declare that: see WP:PAID and WP:COI. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:00, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

@Biswajit Kol Read through Help:Referencing for beginners. Athanelar (talk) 15:02, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Biswajit Kol.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

Unless sources exist which meet all the conditions in the golden rule, then no acceptable article is possible. ColinFine (talk) 09:57, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

i had tried to pur the refference link and i have the refference link also which are in news epaper:

External links here

::https://www.highereducationdigest.com/praxis-business-school-building-digital-leaders-of-the-future/

https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-is-shaping-students-for-the-ai-driven-world-through-its-management-education/cid/2159642

https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/career/from-struggle-to-success-farheen-masoods-inspiring-journey-empowered-by-education/cid/2013948

https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-to-host-its-inter-college-fest-spardha-2026-from-february-6-to-7/cid/2145771

https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/spardha-2026-at-praxis-business-school-celebrates-talent-competition-and-creativity-photogallery/cid/2151603

https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-kolkata-gears-up-for-edge-2026-and-startup-clinic-and-pitch-event/cid/2156060

https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-hosts-edge-2026-and-startup-clinic-and-pitch-event-in-kolkata/cid/2157385

https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/news/praxis-business-school-organises-samvaad-2024-to-discuss-future-of-employment-education-and-skills-in-artificial-intelligence-driven-world/cid/2071130

https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/convocation-ceremony-hosted-by-praxis-business-school-bids-farewell-to-pgdm-class-of-2025/cid/2094411?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-conducted-its-15th-convocation-for-pgdm-class-of-2023-photogallery/cid/1929361?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/education/rethinking-management-education-for-a-data-and-ai-led-economy/articleshow/126271908.cms?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://praxis.ac.in/praxis-launches-the-first-issue-of-its-academic-journal-digitalics/?utm_source=chatgpt.com.

--Biswajit Kol (talk) 12:10, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

@Biswajit Kol: I'll BHFH this set.

My Bastard Helper From Hell assessment

• We can't use https://www.highereducationdigest.com/praxis-business-school-building-digital-leaders-of-the-future/ (unknown provenance). Role byline; who wrote this? (We're sceptical of role/absent bylines because they're frequently used to launder literal fake news.)
• We can't use https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-is-shaping-students-for-the-ai-driven-world-through-its-management-education/cid/2159642 (no editorial oversight). "ABP Digital Brand Hub" heavily implies this is one of those aforementioned instances of literal fake news.
• https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/career/from-struggle-to-success-farheen-masoods-inspiring-journey-empowered-by-education/cid/2013948 doesn't help for eligibility (wrong subject). Article is about a woman who attended the school. Coverage of the school's alumni is not coverage of the school itself.
• We can't use https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-to-host-its-inter-college-fest-spardha-2026-from-february-6-to-7/cid/2145771 (unknown provenance). Role byline; who wrote this?
• We can't use https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/spardha-2026-at-praxis-business-school-celebrates-talent-competition-and-creativity-photogallery/cid/2151603 (unknown provenance). Role byline; who wrote this?
• We can't use https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-kolkata-gears-up-for-edge-2026-and-startup-clinic-and-pitch-event/cid/2156060 (unknown provenance).
• We can't use https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-hosts-edge-2026-and-startup-clinic-and-pitch-event-in-kolkata/cid/2157385 (unknown provenance).
• We can't use https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/news/praxis-business-school-organises-samvaad-2024-to-discuss-future-of-employment-education-and-skills-in-artificial-intelligence-driven-world/cid/2071130 (unknown provenance).
• We can't use https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/convocation-ceremony-hosted-by-praxis-business-school-bids-farewell-to-pgdm-class-of-2025/cid/2094411?utm_source=chatgpt.com (unknown provenance).
• We can't use https://www.telegraphindia.com/edugraph/campus/praxis-business-school-conducted-its-15th-convocation-for-pgdm-class-of-2023-photogallery/cid/1929361?utm_source=chatgpt.com (too sparse, unknown provenance). We don't cite photo galleries as they have nothing to summarise.
• We can't use https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/education/rethinking-management-education-for-a-data-and-ai-led-economy/articleshow/126271908.cms?utm_source=chatgpt.com (connexion to subject). The article footer has an explicit disclaimer that the article is an advertorial for Praxis, rather unusually for the brown-envelopey ToI.
• Anything on Praxis' website doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject).

Nothing you have is any good. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 03:44, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

ERROR, NEEDS FIXING!!!

THERE IS AN ERROR IN Template:Chembox! Currently, EVERY auto-generated 3-dimensional JSmol model link fails (EXAMPLES: METHANE, WATER, ETC.). I have no clue if this is a Wikipedia error or a JSmol error, but it must be fixed! If it is on Wikipedia’s side, we must find a way to fix the link. If it’s JSmol’s fault, we should either scrap the link and wait for a fix (if there ends up being one) OR replace it with a different model generator (if JSmol takes too long). Γ+2 (talk) 02:02, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

@GammaPlus2: both methane and water links worked fine for me. There have been no changes to Chembox template this year. Maybe a temporary error in JSmol? MKFI (talk) 09:41, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

For me, methane gives “ERROR opening https://cactus.nci.nih.gov/chemical/structure/C/file?format=sdf&get3d=True -- C could not be loaded.” Γ+2 (talk) 11:31, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

It works for me too. If it now works for you too then any error has already been fixed; if not then the problem may be at your end. In general, topics are more likely to attract a response from a subject expert if the title indicates what they are about, e.g. "Chembox no longer displays JSmol model". Certes (talk) 10:19, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Both links failed for me around 10:30 but work now. The Water link is https://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jmol.php?model=O and gave me a page only saying:

ERROR opening https://cactus.nci.nih.gov/chemical/structure/O/file?format=sdf&get3d=True -- O could not be loaded.

Now I see an image of a water molecule. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:51, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

The same error message keeps coming and going away for me. The site certainly seems unstable today but it's too soon to think about a replacement. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:32, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

So, will the template be edited or not? Γ+2 (talk) 11:34, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Tne Water link works for me at the moment. David10244 (talk) 03:11, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

I know, it has probably been fixed now. Γ+2 (talk) 13:21, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Currently, it gives an error. At first I thought this might be some kind of Wikipedia error where the SMILES text was inputted wrongly, but I believe this must be some sort of JSmol error. Whatever it is, I believe everybody should have access to 3-dimensional molecular models, and not just those with the luck of not having the glitch happen. Γ+2 (talk) 11:39, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

I’ll just mention you guys so you see this message because I don’t want to have to copy-paste this whoever knows how many times. @PrimeHunter @Certes @MKFI Γ+2 (talk) 11:44, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

@GammaPlus2 This is a Jmol problem, not a Wikipedia one. Sometimes the link from our articles works and sometimes it doesn't. It can be reported on their Wiki at this link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:51, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

It seems JSmol is STILL updating. Their Wikipedia article says the most recent stable release was no more than a few weeks ago. I mean, we could try reporting it, but in the meantime we should figure out if the template should be edited or not. If JSmol doesn’t read it quickly, we should probably remove the link altogether until it’s fixed. Γ+2 (talk) 11:57, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Password reset, but this email has no Wiki account

An email address of mine received a Wikipedia password reset message apparently from wikimedia.org, but it's an email that has never had a Wiki account associated with it. What's the best way for me to prevent anyone from succeeding in that kind of thing? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:47, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

I can't upload media

I trying to upload the Hauntii, I followed all the question in the forms, but... there's no "Upload media" button available , even I followed and made all the forms. Here the screenshot:

???

VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 16:52, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Now I can upload if I use Special:Upload VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 16:55, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Editing California Department of Social Services page

Hi there! I have been trying to make edits that are supported with credible citations to the California Department of Social Services' page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Department_of_Social_Services and they routinely are rejected without reason. I am tasked with making sure the page is accurate and unable to do so without explanation as to why these edits are being rejected. Happy to coordinate with Wikipedia editors to address this issue. Thanks! PIOCDSS2026 (talk) 15:48, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

@PIOCDSS2026: First, DISCLOSE. Second, we don't allow external links within the body of the article; that's reserved for one entry in the infobox and a list of them at the article footer. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 15:52, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

PIOCDSS2026 appears to be trying to add a reference, rather than just inserting a link. If that's what they're attempting, perhaps WP:INCITE might be of use. Andrew Jameson (talk) 16:00, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

I'd generally point them to Help:Referencing for beginners, not INCITE, but I doubt there's a need to cite the CA DSS website for specific people, which seems to be the bulk of why they're adding external links. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 16:16, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @PIOCDSS2026.

I suggest you read WP:BOSS.

It looks as if you are following whoever created that article in the first place in supposing that the purpose of a Wikipedia article is for the subject to tell people what they want people to know. It isn't.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

That article is in serious need of attention, but adding more information which cannot be sourced to an independent source will just make it worse. ColinFine (talk) 17:45, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

"no" below userboxes

At Wikipedia:Userboxes/Politics by country#Albania there is a display of several userboxes. Below the images for User:Firefly/Userbox Archive/User Pro-Albania and User:Kevjassintkevin/Userboxes/AlbaniaEU the word "no" appears, which looks like someone making a comment to disapprove of those infoboxes. However, I didn't see the word "no" in the wiki markup for Wikipedia:Userboxes/Politics by country at that point, nor was it transcluded from the infoboxes themselves as the word "no" doesn't appear in their wiki markup either. Does anyone know what this is about? -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:46, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

@Metropolitan90: This is an unintended side-effect of Special:Diff/1314518306 by Redrose64 (talk · contribs). It looks as if some userboxes interpret the category parameter differently from others. I'm not sure of the best fix. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:16, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

I have added support for |category=no to those two user boxes. There may be others. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! --Metropolitan90 (talk) 13:32, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

There may be others, but this problem should not occur for userboxes built using Template:Userbox; the use of table markup to make a userbox is obsolete. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

A web page

Dear Editors:

I'm wondering if you could create a web page for me. I've been informed it's possible if I supply a list of citations and a biography. Also, I assume I would need to pay one of your editors for the work. Thank you for your consideration. Here are the biography and citations:

Extended content

Biography

Gary Zebrun was born in Buffalo,N.Y. and lives in Providence, Rhode Island. He is a fiction writer and poet, and a former editor at The Providence Journal. He is a graduate of the Brown Graduate Writing Program and the recipient of Yaddo, MacDowell, and Breadloaf fellowships. He has three novels, Hart Island, Only the Lonely and Someone You Know. He has published poetry and nonfiction prose in the New York Times, the New Republic, Iowa Review, American Scholar, Sewanee Review, The Believer Book of Writers Talking to Writers, The Common, The Gay & Lesbian Review, and elsewhere.

CITATIONS

My website: https://garyzebrun.net

NOVELS

Hart Island Reviews and Awards. (2024) University of Wisconsin Press

https://outinprintblog.wordpress.com/2024/07/08/hart-island-gary-zebrun-university-of-wisconsin-press/ https://www.amazon.com/Hart-Island-Gary-Zebrun/dp/0299348342/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0 https://oceanstatereview.org/2024/07/12/a-review-of-gary-zebruns-hart-island/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferro-Grumley_Award https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Hansen_Award https://greenlightbookstore.com/event/2024-04-15/gary-zebrun-jim-shepard

Someone You Know (2004, Alyson Press) https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/gary-zebrun/someone-you-know/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_Literary_Award_for_Mystery

Only the lonely (2008, Alyson Press) https://www.buffalospree.com/app/buffalospreemagazine/archives/2008_10/1008books.html https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/gary-zebrun/only-the-lonely/

Short Stories

Ocean State Review “Good Boy.” https://oceanstatereview.org/2026/05/14/gary-zebrun-featured-in-the-ocean-state-review/

The Common “Champaign & Oysters” https://oceanstatereview.org/2026/05/14/gary-zebrun-featured-in-the-ocean-state-review/

The New York Times “The Russian Winters of Lackawanna, NY, https://www.nytimes.com/1982/01/02/opinion/the-russian-winters-of-buffal-o-ny-gary-zebrun.html

Prose (Gay & Lesbian Review, The New Haven Review, The New York Times, The Believer

https://glreview.org/article/article-1352/ https://www.newhavenreview.com/issue-004 https://www.nytimes.com/1979/04/03/archives/but-the-citys-in-trouble.html

https://tropismes.com/livres/archives/4224-the-believer-book-of-writers-talking-to-writers

--Gary Zebrun (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Gary. Unfortunately you have the wrong idea of how Wikipedia works. We are all volunteers (anyone who accepts money in exchange for editing services is a scammer and you must avoid them!). We also do not create articles on-demand. If you meet our specific criteria for inclusion for creative professionals, a volunteer editor will, one day, create an article about you. That article would not be your web page, it would not be owned by you, and you would be heavily discouraged from editing it. It might also include criticism of you/your work and could not be used for promotion or advertisement.

Instead, I recommend focusing on your career and forgetting that Wikipedia exists. qcne (talk) 19:11, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to offend you by saying I'd be willing to pay someone for the work of creating a page for me. I understand completely. It's hard for me to forget that Wikipedia exists because I have such admiration for all that it has provided for me and others over the years. Gary Zebrun (talk) 19:51, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Not offended at all, I just didn't want you to become another victim to the scam rings. qcne (talk) 20:19, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you ~2026-35449-44 (talk) 20:21, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

See also An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Some people who did shoehorn themselves into having a Wikipedia article ended up wishing they hadn't. You would have little control over negative material added to the article if it was reliably sourced. Unless you are very famous, you are better off without a Wikipedia article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:23, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

That’s great to know. Thanks! ~2026-35449-44 (talk) 20:24, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

side panel (aka sidebar?) no longer appears on a wikipedia page.

E.g., searching for The Hours (film) brings up that subject. However, on the left side of the screen there is no sidebar to quick navigate to various topics within the main text. How do i restore the sidebar feature? Whitesaw (talk) 22:05, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Whitesaw Wikipedia has a new default skin, WP:VECTOR2022. To go back to the old page appearance go to special:preferences and then select appearance and Vector legacy (2010) and save. TSventon (talk) 22:20, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

@Whitesaw: Vector 2022 has a table of contents in the left sidebar but it can be hidden on a list icon to the left of the page heading. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:15, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Changing into B-class

Hello. I made the page Ship Harbour Long Lake Wilderness Area, which is currently C-class. I upgraded so the article meets the B-class criteria. Can somebody move it to B-class? Thanks, — Versions111 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

@Versions111: for what it is worth, the WP:RATER tool rates Ship Harbour Long Lake Wilderness Area as C. As ratings are subjective you could upgrade the rating yourself and see if anyone objects. TSventon (talk) 16:21, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

I changed the ratings now. Versions111 (talk • contribs) 05:48, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

When 10 articles in English are to be covered by 1 article in XYZ language, how do we handle it?

Hi everyone, dear Wikipedia editors,

My question mostly connects to the matter of Tailteann Games translation – merge or keep separate? - however, I believe this could be some help for others to, as I struggled finding clear guidelines on this challenge, however unusual and odd it is. It is a bit of a niche matter (and do note, that the title is a caricature of my concern haha): I have a two-part question about translating these Tailteann Games articles (Tailteann Games (ancient) & Tailteann Games (Irish Free State)) into French.

If two separate articles on a topic can be relevant in one language, they might be too much when translating into another. For example, a town and its monument have a clear hierarchical relationship, so separate articles make sense. But when the split is due to time frame or entity—like the Old Olympics and New Olympics—this separation is globally relevant and justified. However, the Tailteann Games follow the same concept as the Olympics (ancient vs. modern), yet they’re far less internationally known. So, for French Wikipedia, having two separate articles might be overkill.

(See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeux_olympiques ; https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeux_olympiques_antiques >> Olympic Games ; Ancient Olympic Games)

My questions: >> Should I translate them as a combined article? If so, which English article should I link to from the French version?

>> Am I allowed to create interlanguage links to a redirect? This would mean both English articles link to one French article, but from that French article, I’d still need to determine which English article to link back to.

This is clearly a multi-wiki issue, that covers beyond the English space. Any guidance beyond my questions are more than appreciated?

TheUltimateGenealogy (talk) 22:18, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

I'd suggest, TheUltimateGenealogy, that you start by improving the English-language articles; so that whether the result in French or whatever is one article or two, it will be good stuff. A large percentage of the article that's ostensibly about the "ancient" games is instead about the modern ones. The former article has references to many sources, but few of these have titles that suggest that they go into any detail about the "ancient" games. An exception, cited three times, is Nally's The Aonac Tailteann and the Tailteann Games, Their History and Ancient Associations -- a curiously old-fashioned title for a book published this millennium. I looked it up. No surprise when I learned that it's just a 2008 reprint of something published over a century ago (OCLC 1231009228). Hasn't there been worthwhile research during the last half-century? (What does Google Scholar get you?) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:52, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion dear Hoary, I agree with you (and that wasn't really my question here in the first place) the English articles would need a lot of improvements. Would you have any insights into the general questions I was raising? Thanks

TheUltimateGenealogy (talk) 23:16, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Should I translate them [for fr:Wikipedia] as a combined article? That's a question to ask the editors of fr:Wikipedia, perhaps at Wikipédia:Forum des nouveaux. ¶ Am I allowed to create interlanguage links to a redirect? I suspect that you mean a link to a disambiguation page. I imagine that this is explained within Help:Sitelinks, but I haven't checked. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:11, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

@TheUltimateGenealogy: In general editors on different Wikipedias can choose to write articles on the subjects they want to, so you can end up with 10 articles in one Wikipedia and 1 in another. I believe that it is possible to use redirects to create more interlanguage links, but I can't find the guidance at the moment. Last year I tried to create interlanguage links between en:Wallisch, Wallisch (Q37056283) and de:Wallisch, nds:Wallisch, ru:Валлиш, sk:Wallisch, all Wallisch (Q2543002). It worked initially, but the sk page was deleted and the de, nds and ru redirects have been unlinked from the item. The items can't be merged because one is a disambiguation page and one isn't.

In this case Tailteann Games (ancient) is linked to articles in five other Wikipedias, so the easiest way to link the different languages is to improve the existing articles. For example fr:Tailteann Games is about the ancient games and has subsections on the modern revivals. TSventon (talk) 15:29, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much TSventon, that is very insightful and it does help a lot. TheUltimateGenealogy (talk) 15:37, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

@TheUltimateGenealogy: you could also improve the Wikidata items

• You could add the statement "different from" Tailteann Games (Q39089707) to Tailteann Games (Q2078483) and vice versa
• Wikidata uses descriptions to disambiguate items with the same label. You could change the descriptions of the two items to explain more clearly which is which, e.g. by adding dates. TSventon (talk) 16:48, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

My response is over-simplified, but I think it's a point that deserves emphasis: When the articles are good enough, both by Wikipedia standards and your own judgement, then how many there are is much less concern. If good work has been done on several articles that are all too narrow in scope, merging them is not difficult (except possibly wrangling over whether it should be done); similarly, with a well-made article that covers a topic too broad, splitting it is usually pretty simple.

The secret is in the work being good enough. It's harder to judge "what belongs where" when the "what" isn't done well. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:40, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

I see some good responses here. I'll just note that the type of problem where different languages' wikipedia sites have separate vs merged articles on topics is called the Bonnie and Clyde problem. DMacks (talk) 05:59, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Article about me

There is an article about me (L. Gary Leal) in Wikipedia. It has some material that could be removed but many things that are missing that should be added. Examples are books I have authored, editorships I have held, major recognitions that are not mentioned etc ( If I were editing it, I would add some recognition/awards b ut also delete others that are mminor and not really needed.) Finally, I see that the incomplete list of awards that does exist has a message that seems to indicate the need for references? I can provide these but I have no idea how to do that. I would like to know if the article can be edited. It seems like I am not supposed to do this myself? I also made a feeble attempt to input something new but clearly dp not understand your edit rules since it did not have the correct appearance when I checked. I would rather have no mention in wikipedia rather than something that is incomplete and not accurate. ~2026-35567-45 (talk) 05:36, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-35567-45 (L. Gary Leal). Please take a look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Dealing with articles about yourself for some general guidance as to what you can do in a situation like this. There are processes in place where you can seek assistance from others. However, since there's no real way for anyone to know for certain that you're who you're claiming to be, you might want to consider registering for an WP:ACCOUNT and then having your identity verified by Wikimedia VRT. Doing these things won't give you any special type of editorial control over the article's content, but it might save you the trouble of having to re-identify yourself each time you seek assistance. It will also tie all of the posts you make regarding this to one particular account, which once again might save you the hassle of having to explain who you are each time you try to seek help. You can use your WP:REALNAME if you want for your account user name, but you're not required to do so. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:48, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

I would rather have no mention in wikipedia rather than something that is incomplete and not accurate. A common sentiment, and precisely why we try to discourage people from pushing to get articles about themselves published here on Wikipedia; because you ultimately do not have any editorial control over what goes in, or whether it stays "up to date" or "accurate" or what have you.

Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. Ultimately, any information you want to add to your article will need to have been reported on by reliable sources completely unaffiliated with you. Primary sources can generally only be used for things like verifying uncontroversial biographical info about you. Athanelar (talk) 07:31, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

In general, the subject of a Wikipedia article has very little control over what the article says - in fact the subject is intentionally given much less control than an average random person has, because all subjects want to show themselves in a favorable way. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 07:37, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Article created by new account

Does anyone know how the article Ahaan Panday was created? The creator seems to have opened their account on 30 October and created the page with their first edit. Mme Maigret (talk) 09:04, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Mmemaigret. They created it in draft space, and it was moved to mainspace by Piejuno in this edit ColinFine (talk) 09:08, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks ColinFine. Mme Maigret (talk) 09:49, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I have created a page for an wikipedia article in my sandbox with username "Soumyabnrj02" ...

Topic name-- "Players with 10,000 or more runs scored for women's all formats of cricket"

Will that article be approved from my sandbox ,then will be moved to wikipedia main page for everyones' view

please help me with any appropriate answers soon Soumyabnrj02 (talk) 08:02, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Resolved

GRAMMAR

Who or what monitors media presenters use of English grammar? The inaccurate/careless use of the descriptive phrase "amount of", instead of "NUMBER OF", when the objects referred to CAN BE COUNTED,is incredibly disheartening. How can children be expected to develop scientifically-oriented brains when their comprehension is interfered with by inaccurate language? Kath ~2026-35344-37 (talk) 08:31, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

This doesn't seem to be related to Wikipedia. What help do you need on Wikipedia? HyperAnd [talk] 09:25, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

If you see grammar errors in a Wikipedia article, feel free to fix them. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:37, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

The answer to your question is: no English-speaking country in the World does this on a nationwide or media-specific basis (that I am aware of, or would easily believe it of, if reported). Individual media (such as the UK's BBC) may have an internal department with something like this remit, but even the BBC's usually restricts itself to advising on the pronunciation of words and names (especially non-English ones) when asked by broadcast personnel. Individual programme managers would be the first line of defence against a grammar abuser, if they chose.

An individual who repeatedly and egregiously abuses English current grammar will likely attract viewer/listener complaints, which might prompt their organisation to take steps to discourage or eliminate it. For individual or 'self-employed' media presenters, like bloggers and YouTubers, there is no possible means of controlling how they use or misuse language.

Languages evolve, quite rapidly at a micro-level, or else we would all be speaking Proto-Indo-European. Changes, additions and losses of certain meanings of words and phrases are inevitable, however much some (usually older) people dislike it. Many usages that are absolutely standard now were bitterly decried when they first emerged a century or three ago.

By all means actively oppose usages you disapprove of, perhaps by campaigning for improvements in education, if it makes you feel better (I sometimes complain about such errors myself), but keep in mind that ultimately you have no more power over this than King Canute legendarily did with the incoming tide, or else you may drive yourself mad. {{The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 17:37, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Probably the same people who monitor your outrageous omission of apostrophes, abusive SHOUTY ALL-CAPS, indecisive slash, and unspaced general punctuation . ;-) Bazza 7 (talk) 08:42, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Reporting issues on other wikis

After seeing Yet Another person reporting something on another site that the English Wikipedia has no control over, I decided to create a help page we can point people to. Please take a look and expand it if you can. I hop[e that it will save us all time and effort answering the same questions over and over.

• Help:Reporting issues on other wikis

--Guy Macon (talk) 23:41, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Great idea! SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:09, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Should probably mention WP:EMB for non-English Wikimedia projects. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:53, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Helping people who want a Wiki article in another language

Hello: I edit voluntarily, but also am a COI editor (the disclosure which you can find on my user page). I have recently been approached by someone who lives in the US but has media coverage in Dutch dating back to the 1990s. I suggested they inquire about a page on the Netherlands Wikipedia site. Similarly, I just spoke to someone in China in the same situation. Is there a way to connect these people with the Netherlands/Dutch, and Chinese wikipedia community, respectively? I appreciate any feedback and advice for them. Thank you, LeepKendall (talk) 21:40, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

@LeepKendall: In the left sidebar on this page (might be skin dependent?) you can find links to the Help Desk for other langauge Wikipedias. For example for the Netherlands https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Helpdesk and for China https://zh.wikipedia.org/ (main page) RudolfRed (talk) 22:34, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) hi, for a start I would say that if a random person wanted an article about themself in English Wikipedia, there is a list they could add their name to, but it is hardly used. They could come here and ask for help and they would be given some basic information and advised that they could write an article themself, but that is difficult for a new editor and not necessarily a good idea. (You may well be able to give that advice yourself.)

People on this Helpdesk generally don't advise about other Wikipedias as they have different rules and we are generally not familiar with them. However many Wikipedias will have a Help desk linked to this one via Wikidata item Project:Help desk (Q4026300). Also they are likely to have a notability policy linked to notability policy for a Wikimedia content project (Q4657574). Your contact could post at the Dutch or Chinese Help desk, but I don't have experience of using them (that I can remember). They might get similar advice to what I wrote above.

It might be easier to write the article on English Wikipedia, subject to notability rules, as en Wikipedia accepts foreign language sources. TSventon (talk) 22:43, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! I appreciate your time and assistance. LeepKendall (talk) 15:29, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Local Embassy. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:56, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Away for awhile

Could someone deal with the mentorship questions on my talk? JayCubby 16:37, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

@JayCubby: have you looked at Wikipedia:Mentorship#How do I pause my mentorship activity?? TSventon (talk) 16:51, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

@JayCubby I've answered the ones which were outstanding. Athanelar (talk) 16:56, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Many thanks. JayCubby 17:00, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

soft hyphen

I wrote an article many years ago and inserted over ten soft hyphens. For instance, here is one used in a picture caption so the spacing would fit with different devices: soft hyphen|tour|na|ment. [I purposely removed the L & R brace around that.] Should I go back and remove all the soft hyphens because they can cause glitches with some software? Isn't there also an alternative form, which is putting & shy; [I purposely put a space in there] at the spot of the line break. Thanks. JimPercy (talk) 14:40, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

@JimPercy We have the template {{shy}}. Does that help? Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:03, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, I'm clear on all this now. JimPercy (talk) 18:07, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Im try to become best version of me .. how can u solve this problem and make me batter

help ~2026-34302-52 (talk) 05:29, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi, this is the help desk for Wikipedia. It's where you can ask questions about editing Wikipedia, not general questions about life. Good luck, though.

(As for becoming batter, the article Batter (cooking) might be useful to you. /j)

^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 05:41, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Are we sure they're not referring to the character from OFF? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 06:07, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

or perhaps they keep committing Battery (crime) Ilikememes128 (talk) 19:10, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Huh! Taking the piss out of a newb for their speeling mistakes - you should all be ashamed. This is why WP genuinely stinks. @~2026-34302-52: - Dude, only you can make yourself better. Concentrate on the very best parts of your inner self, and improve them. If you can do things, learn to do them better. Be prepared to amaze people with your skills. Very best of luck, MinorProphet (talk) 19:54, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Edit Suggestion

I am seeing a lot of edits tagged "Tags: Visual edit Edit Suggestion seen Edit Suggestion used", but I was not able to find any page about any sort of automated edit suggestion tool. What are the criteria for use? Obviously someone wanted a human in the loop, otherwise it would just be a bot that makes the edits. Where is the guidance telling the human when to accept and whne to reject the suggestion? --Guy Macon (talk) 20:28, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Collapse misunderstanding

Thank you. I did need a human to help, as there are several ways that I found someone could submit. This was the first part of a second question I wanted to ask, however now am uncomfortable doing so after an earlier response.

I asked that other human to answer my question rather than posting it here and risking being called out for being a beginner, and this was the page that was recommended for beginners to ask questions in that we couldn't find a clear answer for through the pages. I appreciate you stepping in to provide that constructive feedback to that individual. I think for now, I will simply not use a public forum again to ask a question.

I don't know how to close off my original question. If someone can advise me on how to do that, that will be my last public question.

Thank you. BuzzGnat (talk) 20:49, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Guy Macon is asking about something that appears to be unrelated to anything you've done. They're asking about edits that show in history and contribution pages with a special tag that none of your edits have. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:54, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

I have never had any interaction with this user and did not know they existed before reading the above comment. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:31, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

I think suggested edits might be referring to either mw:Wikimedia Apps/Suggested edits or mw:Help:Growth/Tools/Suggested edits? - Purplewowies (talk) 20:53, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

It looks like the ones I am seeing came from mw:Wikimedia Apps/Suggested edits. Which raises the question: what program is suggesting the edits? Is there a way I can see the suggestions for an article without using (Spit!) visual editor? (See .)

mw:Growth/Personalized_first_day/Newcomer_tasks#Recommending_tasks talks about it some without actually providing any details, and doesn't answer the obvious question: If these suggestions are are good, why hasn't a bot been created to implement them? If they might not be good, why is the WMF encouraging newcomers to act as meatpuppets for whatever software is making the suggestions? --Guy Macon (talk) 22:04, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Why? Because the WMF prioritises quantity of contributors (and thus potential donors) over quality of content. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:08, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

It's from "Suggestion mode" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. See mw:Help:Suggestion mode. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:41, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Sudden font change

It suddenly changed to a smaller font. How do I undo this? Clarityfiend (talk) 10:23, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Clarityfiend. I wonder if you have accidentally zoomed out on your web browser? Try resetting the zoom by holding down the following keys on your keyboard at the same time: Ctrl/Command and 0 qcne (talk) 10:30, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

I don't see a cmd key. Anyway, if I go to a different website, the font is normal. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:35, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend: The slash meant or. Does Ctrl+0 or Ctrl++ work? What is your browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:13, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Resolved

Ctrl-0 worked. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:41, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Can someone explain why this page was deleted, even though a large percentage of people requested it be kept.

Darializa Avila Chevalier:

page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darializa Avila Chevalier (2nd nomination) Le-Belle-Dame-Sans-Merci (talk) 12:36, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

There wasn't a WP:SNOW for delete, but the worry was that she is only a candidate and hasn't been elected yet. Wikipedia cannot guarantee to have an article about every candidate in every election. If she is elected in the 2026 United States House of Representatives elections in New York, it may be worth trying again.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:46, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Only two people had a hard suggestion of deletion. Seven requested it be kept , Seven requested it be redirected. One suggested that they would feel comfortable with either a redirection or deletion. The arguments were quite sound by those wanting it to be kept. Is there a way to contest this deletion. Le-Belle-Dame-Sans-Merci (talk) 13:02, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

We have WP:NPOL to consider (which she doesn't pass yet), and then, given that NPOL isn't fulfilled, weigh if she passes our WP:GNG. As most of the non-trivial sources about her had to do with her running for office, I think the redirect was the correct close of the discussion. Let it be said that AfDs aren't about numbers alone. As for contesting it: the Wiki-way of doing it would be to contact the closer first and see what they have to say. If they stand by their close, we have deletion review. Lectonar (talk) 13:12, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Because a deletion discussion, like most discussions on Wikipedia, is not a vote. It is arguments from Wikipedia's policy that prevail, not numbers for or against. ColinFine (talk) 13:35, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Deleted contributions

Hello,

I'm hoping someone can help me locate my contributions and recover content I wrote.

I created a Wikipedia article for a musician approximately 5 months ago while logged into my account (Thewilds88, created 24 January 2026). My contributions page shows that my account has 3 edits, but when I search my contributions no results appear — it says "No changes were found matching these criteria" even with all filters cleared.

I'm concerned the article may have been deleted. If so, I would really appreciate it if an administrator could: 1. Confirm whether the article was deleted and the reason 2. Restore the article text to my userspace (e.g. User:Thewilds88/[article name]) so I can recover the written content

I put significant work into writing this article and need to recover the text if possible.

Thank you for any help you can offer. Thewilds88 Thewilds88 (talk) 11:57, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

I've shortened your header which just duplicated your message.

Draft:Pema Africa was deleted as unambiguous promotion with the comment "see WP:COI WP:RS WP:Notability (people), chatbot junk". Please don't use an AI/LLM to write for you. See WP:LLM. The text was indeed promotional and won't just be restored. It csn be emailed to you if you need it, but it seems this individual is not notable as a musician or more broadly a notable person. 331dot (talk) 12:08, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

thank you for getting back to me so promptly. Yes, can you please email the content back to me? You're help will be greatly appreciated as i put more than four days work into writing it and learning how to cite correctly. Pema Africa is well known on the South Africa local music scene and matter to the people in this country. It was not my intention to write promotionally, but to inform and that is why the content is written neutrally. if you can also link a page or video on how to write less promotionally, your help would be greatly appreciated. Thewilds88 (talk) 12:18, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Thewilds88.

Have you read WP:PRPEOPLE?

If somebody is paying you to write about them, then what they are doing - and what you are doing - is promotion.

In order to write an acceptable Wikipedia article about them, you will have to do something very different, probably, from what they are expecting. You will basically have to ignore everything you know about them, and everything that they say, in any medium, and concentrate on what people unconnected with them have chosen to publish about them.

Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.

If you are successful, the result may or may not be what your client wants. But they, and you, will have no power to change it - you will be limited to making suggestions. And if it does end up saying things they don't like, they will not have the power to delete it. Please see WP:PROUD. ColinFine (talk) 13:32, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Colin, this is very helpful information, thank you. Thewilds88 (talk) 13:41, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

In general, edits to deleted pages do not show up in the contribution history. Certes (talk) 12:17, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Malicious Editing of my page

A malicious person has editing my wiki page and said homophobic and terrible things about me. Here is what was edited onto my page:

(Redacted)

This is the information attached as best I could decipher from my page. I am unable to understand the IRL of who sent this. I would greatly appreciate this person being blocked from further attacking my reputation on Wikipedia. I have no known recourse to stop this from happening again. I blocked this person on IG and every other social network.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dante_Ross&diff=prev&oldid=1360056103 ~2026-35752-41 (talk) 10:10, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-35752-4. It looks like you've gone ahead and removed the content yourself; this is allowed per WP:BLPSELF and WP:BLPREMOVE. I've removed the blurb of said content you added above in your post a replaced it with the template (Redacted). If this kind of thing happens again, your best bet might be to seek assistance via an email to the Wikipedia Oversight Team because doing so leave less of a "paper" trail on Wikipedia. It's also probably a good idea to not re-post the offending content on any other Wikipedia pages because it just makes more things to clean up. FWIW, I've added a user warning to the user talk page of the account that made those edits, but it's not a registered account so there's no much more that I can do this time. Perhaps, this was just a one time thing, and that person won't come back; if, however, they do, then asking for assistance at WP:AN a Wikipedia administrator might lead to the other account being WP:BLOCKed, the article being WP:PROTECTed, a combination of the two.

Finally, while I can understand how strong the temptation might be to try to get even with this other person via Wikipedia, please don't because that will only create problems for you. Please be very careful when it comes to WP:OUTING anyone on Wikipedia because that's one of the quickest way for an account to get into trouble. Just follow the guidance given in WP:DENY and seek assistance asap from a Wikipedia adminstrator. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:37, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Please also see Wikipedia:About you, which has advice for article subjects. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:26, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

sandbox work being edited by others

I created a file in what I thought was my sandbox (User:Mihal.emberton/sandbox/Belief-Behavior Systems archetype) but when I saved my edits, I received messages that I was "vandalizing" wikipedia... please help me understand how to get my work into the sandbox if it is not really in the sandbox as the system says.... ~2026-33436-16 (talk) 20:37, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Courtesy ping: Malgosha

Courtesy ping: Hamimh2

^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 (They/them • Ping me!) 20:41, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

It's because you are currently logged out of your account, so to an outside observer it might look like somebody random is editing the page. Logging in again or mentioning on your user page that this temporary account (~2026-33436-16) is also you. GarethBaloney (talk) 20:42, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

They think it's vandalism because you're logged out currently. Malgosha (talk) 20:44, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I did not realize this and have logged in :-). With humble gratitude... Mihal.emberton (talk) 21:31, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

If you are user:Mihal.emberton, you have been editing the sandbox while signed out. Possibly this is why you were reverted, though I wouldn't call it vandalism. I'd have to suggest however that if you are trying to create an article on the subject discussed there, you are almost certainly wasting your time. Wikipedia articles are based on what independent reliable sources have to directly say about a subject, and without such sources, covering the subject in depth, an article will not meet the required notability criteria. Wikipedia is not a platform for promoting ideas you yourself have come up with, and doing so constitutes a conflict of interest. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:52, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you @AndyTheGrump for your very kind and ethical guidance. Mihal.emberton (talk) 22:58, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

@Mihal.emberton A minor point, but Wikipedia articles do not contain copyright (or trademark) symbols. David10244 (talk) 02:55, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

makes sense! thank you kindly..... Mihal.emberton (talk) 17:28, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

build a new business page

where can I add a page for my business please? Jbayad (talk) 15:43, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Jbayad. You cannot, we are not a business directory. qcne (talk) 16:08, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Jbayad.

Please read WP:BOSS, which will explain the context of qcne's reply. ColinFine (talk) 17:33, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Lord Baden-Powell

The CURRENT Lord B-P is SHOWN at the end of THIS Page Baron_Baden-Powell But that USED to be a Link to his own Page - that has now VANISHED ! a. WHY ?? b. How do we get it back ?? PobClay (talk) 10:37, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

The article David Baden-Powell, 5th Baron Baden-Powell was converted to a redirect to Baron Baden-Powell following a deletion discussion which you can read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Baden-Powell, 5th Baron Baden-Powell. DuncanHill (talk) 11:08, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you.

That is SO disappointing !

Is there any way I can retrieve that data onto my computer ? PobClay (talk) 13:57, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

@PobClay: the final version of the article before redirection is here. You can see the article history, and access earlier versions, here. DuncanHill (talk) 14:52, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

JUST the job !

THANK YOU ! PobClay (talk) 18:15, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Information about pages that no longer exist

Is it possible for a non-admin to determine whether an article that currently does not exist has existed in the past, or whether a currently existing article had a predecessor whose history is not in the current article? This would be helpful to me on AfD and AINB. For example, someone claims that article X is a translation of non-existant article Y: is there any way I can find out if Y has ever existed, and if so, when? Similarly, they claim that X is a translation of Y, but X was created earlier than Y; can I find out if there was a previous Y? Thank you. M kuhner (talk) 17:19, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

@M kuhner: You can use Special:Log/delete. If the page doesn't currently exist then you can also click a red link to it like Amina Tandelova. If it does exist then click the "View history" tab on it and then "View logs for this page" at the top. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:42, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

M Kuhner, if you are on mobile, the redlink won't work, but on desktop or desktop mode it will work as intended, I believe. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 17:49, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you both! M kuhner (talk) 19:35, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Reasoning behind the habit of using templates instead of Wikilinks

Hello,

I'm pondering this question since years for now. Why does the English Wikipedia make such heavy use of templates for quite easy formatting tasks? What is the advantage of {{reflist}} versus a plain listing? Or {{sclass}}, which output actually really often conflicts with MOS:SEAOFBLUE?
Such "inline-templates" are a pain in the bum when endeavouring to translate such texts as they hide conventional Wiki markup article links; and I have the strong feeling that the usability for any editor wanting to work of the source code is lacking when using such templates which do not appear as intuitively as conventional markup (example: {{reflist}} versus <references />), furthermore, typing the {{ ... }}, the double curly brackets, is seemingly not as straightforward as the tag symbols < > and slashes. Such a "template-mania" is also visible on FR-WP and Commons, making it in my opinion quite difficult to begin engaging with the project for newcomers. My home Wiki, DE-WP, doesn't have as much templates AFAIK, especially not this "inline" kind, instead mostly infoboxes and navboxes.
Are there people who could explain this to me? Is there any relevant historical background? Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 00:11, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Reflist automatically finds every reference in the article and compiles them into a list. Similarly, sclass automatically puts the given information into the right format. Both of them have the advantage of making "the machinery" take care of things that people often make mistakes on, forget to do, or don't care about. Maybe German Wikipedia has too few forgetful/careless editors. I could probably find you some, if you'd like more of them. :) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:00, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

There is indeed a historical background, but it isn't pretty.

HTML was invented, and it was good. It got better and better until HTML 4.01 (then the evildoers turned it to shit with HTLM5, but that's another topic.)

Meanwhile, multiple online websites decided that HTML was too hard and introduced "simpler" replacements, all different and all incompatible with each other. So suddenly you needed one language to edit Wikipedia, another to edit Reddit, etc.

Then users started demanding more features -- features that were already in HTML 4.01. The various "simple" languages got bigger and more bloated.

The experienced users got used to the languages and resisted any change. And a huge amount of content was created using each unique language -- far too much to rewrite.

In came the programmers. Programmers hate writing simple things that any beginner can understand. WE (yes, I am one of them) are all about subroutines, functions, include files, libraries, and macros. And all of those do make things easier and less error prone for the experienced user, at the expense of the newbies having to learn more.

Then of course the business interests got involved. The wanted the page to gather data on users, stop them from doing some things, force them to watch other things, etc. Fortunately. Wikipedia didn't adopt their "improvements".

Mix it all together and you get what we have now. And it is too late to change. You might as well try to get rid of QWERTY and the Scroll Lock key, or try to start calling the end of the battery with more electrons the plus end. --Guy Macon (talk) 01:32, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Two common reasons to use templates for seemingly simple tasks is to make them clearer/easier for other editors or to enable more advanced features that might not always be wanted. For example, something that's hard to type might have a more ASCII-like template. Or something that requires multiple tags or tags that are one character off of other ones might have a template to make it easier to avoid typos. The {{reflist}} example is where the simplest idea actually has back-end magic (example: flexable multi-column) and also seemlessly supports those tricks if someone chooses to use them (not have to learn two different ways of doing things depending on what magic is wanted). The back-end magic tricks also mean if WP wanted to change its defaults, it is easy to do it in a single place and have it apply everywhere. DMacks (talk) 05:22, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

A lot of templates are there because editors (I'm one of them) are lazy and want to save typing. For instance, {{sclass|Olympic|ocean liner}} and [[Olympic-class ocean liner|''Olympic''-class]] [[ocean liner]] both produce the same output. The first takes 30 characters, the second takes 61. Mjroots (talk) 08:50, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

@Mjroots: your second example illustrates finely why the use of {{sclass}} produces editorial issues. [[Olympic-class ocean liner|''Olympic''-class]] [[ocean liner]] is against the recommended practice per MOS:SEAOFBLUE: you should avoid having two (or more) consecutive Wikilinks that are visually indistinguishable from a single link. A simple [[Olympic-class ocean liner]] standing at 25 characters is even shorter than the style manual conforming {{sclass|Olympic|ocean liner|1}} with 32 characters. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 12:51, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

The latter lacks the required italicisation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:33, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

"Should avoid" means that it is best practice. There is not a ban on two consecutive bluelinks, and sometimes it is necessary to have them. As has been demonstrated, formatting can also be coded in to a template. Mjroots (talk) 15:50, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

This is actually a strong case for using templates. When a consensus forms that some other way of writing it is better, changing the template (one edit) automatically fixes it everywhere. Otherwise, every article would need to be edited manually, and that's even taking for granted that they had all been using the (previous) consensus style. Likewise, if someone has a concern (such as you), it can be discussed and consensus formed in a central and well-known location. And in fact Template talk:Sclass#Collision between template output results and manual of style was started by you a year and a half ago and did not get sufficient traction. Therefore the current style is consistent and no alternative consensus exists. Please don't confuse style choice with the editing tool used to implement it. DMacks (talk) 19:56, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Which is the best article this source can go in?

https://vtdigger.org/2023/01/22/then-again-years-of-research-reveal-details-of-bomber-crash-on-camels-hump/

I was reading a few articles of military aircraft (with at least one item in the aircraft accident database) edited by User:The Bushranger since I got a bit too overturned into what this guy was editing. Then I was reading the article Accidents and incidents involving the Consolidated B-24 Liberator and found a 1942 crash that had no source, so I literally searched up the entire line and found this source. Now I wonder what aviation accident was the source talking about or if the source is talking about this exact aviation crash. – SimpleObjects-9ei 🏖️/☀️/🥵 (🌎 CentralAuth) 21:12, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Categorizing Free and Open Source Software

If software is released under the MIT license, it is Free software, it is Open-source software, and it is Free and open-source software. So what is the proper category? Category:Free software, Category:Open-source software, Category:Free and open-source software, or multiple cats? --Guy Macon (talk) 02:21, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

I would go for the separate categories Category:Open source software and Category:Free software. It seems more likely that a reader may be looking for one or the other while on the site than looking for a combination of the two. I haven't used advanced search features on Wikipedia in a while, but isn't there a way to look for pages that have both categories? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:50, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Hmmm. FOSS is a very widely used term. See . Is there a way to tell how many people search for FOSS on Wikipedia? --Guy Macon (talk) 03:52, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

On the top of my 'logged-on', found notification that I need to confirm my password

So I clicked acknowledgement, and then got a message to look in my email for the appropriate action (likely a code for me to put into a form). However, in the last hour that email from the Wiki-world hasn't arrived in my email. What to do? Thanks.Joel Russ (talk) 15:44, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

You could try the spam folder, but if you still can't receive the email, contact cawikimedia.org.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:19, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

No button to move page, though I met the criteria to get autoconfirmed

I met all the criteria to get autoconfirmed, but there's no button "move" in my tools sidebar. I was registered 5 years ago and made 14 edits this week. And xtools.wmcloud confirms that I got autoconfirmed, but when I edit in my personal sandbox, I don't see the button "move" Kate Patskevich (talk) 22:34, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

@Kate Patskevich: The rules for autoconfirmed have changed. You won't be autoconfirmed until 4 days after your first edit. RudolfRed (talk) 22:55, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you!!! Kate Patskevich (talk) 22:58, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Kate Patskevich. What page would you like to move? Just asking out of curiosity. If you're unable to do so at the moment, then perhaps someone else can make the move instead. If the page is an article, you can start a "move" discussion either on on the talk page of the page you want to move or at Wikipedia:Requested moves. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:19, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for a suggestion. I'm prearing a page for one actor, which is long overdue, since he certainly meets notability guidelines. I'm still editing my page. I'm a meticulous person, so I want it to look perfect and meet all the criteria. If I don't see the button "move" in a few days, I'm gonna follow your advice. Thank you, Marchjuly ! Kate Patskevich (talk) 09:05, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Kate Patskevich Unless you have prior experience in having articles accepted, it is highly recommended that you submit the draft for a review instead of moving it yourself. 331dot (talk) 09:06, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

I would gladly submit my draft for a review. When my draft is complete, can I reach out directly to the esteemed contributors to move my page? I've read that a draft can wait for a review for a few months Kate Patskevich (talk) 09:40, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

@Kate Patskevich As others have said, when you think that the draft about Antony Byrne (1969) in your sandbox is ready, which it clearly isn't at present, you should submit it for review using the big blue "submit" button. Although some reviews can take months, anything clearly meeting notability guidlines and well written with proper citations is likely to be accepted quite quickly. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:56, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Password

asked for change of password but received no answer ~2026-35786-00 (talk) 06:47, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Check your junk mail folder(many people do not do this). Make sure you're using the address associated with the account. If you don't get an email, you won't be able to recover your password and will need to create a new account, which you can identify as a successor account.("I am User5678", I was previously User1234 but lost access"). 331dot (talk) 15:40, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Donate

Hi my husband Brian Beaven donates for both of us and feel really bad that when I get the donate request under me I feel bad but we donate un my husband. thanks Bronwyn St clair ~2026-35915-69 (talk) 00:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? That's what this page is for. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 00:15, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

If you create an account, you can hide the fundraising banners. For other questions about donating, see Wikipedia:Contact_us/Donors RudolfRed (talk) 00:44, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Tell me, Bronwyn St clair (~2026-35915-69): if your husband had donated money to a charity on behalf of you both, and then you saw an advert for that charity on the side of a passing bus, or on a hoarding, would you feel bad about that? This is the same situation.

Wikipedia, this site, cannot have knowledge of whether or not a particular device on the internet is being used by a person who has donated to the Wikipedia Foundation (where donations actually go), or had money donated to it on their behalf by someone else.

Even if the person has a Wikipedia account, Wikipedia itself doesn't know if that account has donated or not. This is deliberate, to ensure that donations can never influence what edits are made.

The most that can be done is that an account can be set not to show the request banners (regardless of whether or not the account holder has donated or not). To do that, one has actually to be using the account. I hope this helps to clarify the situation: you have no reason to feel bad. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 16:01, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Henri Temianka

Reference help requested. Thanks much for your advice. I am not clear how to correct the entry. I copied and pasted the parentheses etc. from previous web references. Your further specific advice will be appreciated. DT Thanks, DtemiankaHT (talk) 16:49, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi, it looks like to cited the home page of the site rather than a specific article. The specific reference error was because you didn't include a title for the reference, but you'll need to cite the specific page where Temianka is mentioned, as site home pages change often.

Note: if you are related to the subject, as I suspect you are due to your username, you have a conflict of interest; you'll need to disclose it (see here) and submit a COI edit request so someone else can review your suggestion and complete the edit themselves (see here). ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 17:20, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @DtemiankaHT.

First, and most important, judging by your username, you have some connection with Henri Temianka. If that is the case, then you have a conflict of interest. You should publicly declare your connection with him (usually on your user page), and you should not directly edit the article about him, but instead should use the edit request wizard to request edits, which an uninvolved editor will inspect and decide what change is appropriate.

The specific problem you are having is that {{cite web}} requires the title of the web page being cited, and you haven't given one. I guess that you haven't given one because the URL, being to the top level of the Pacific Symphony website, doesn't have a title.

But the purpose of a reference is to provide a way of verifying that the information it is cited against: unless somewhere on that website there is a page that is about the founding of the Concert Series, the citation is completely useless. If there is a page there, you should link to that page, and give the title of that page.

Having said that, it would be much preferred if you cited an indepedent source for the Concert Series. The guidance on self-published sources - which is what that is - says that they may be used as long as "The material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim" (among other conditions). But in my view talking about a concert series named after Temianka is promotional (or self-serving) and so requires an independent source. (Ditto for the Audio Presentation Lab, though there at least, the citation actually verifies the information).

In fact the whole article is hopelessly promotional. While there are a number of sources which do appear to be reliable and independent, there are several which are clearly not, and there is a great deal of material which is not cited at all. ColinFine (talk) 17:20, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Appropriate template to note ongoing discussion

I've come across a situation where doesn't make sense, and by virtue of word choice does—but it's an article rather than a project page. The note is being added to a fact that isn't disputed (that some negotiations are ongoing)—the issue is that the presentation of that section of the article itself is, well, under discussion.

Is there a better template to use? has the same problem as "Disputed". Alternatively, is there a way to make use a word other than "Disputed"?—I don't see it in the documentation Placeholderer (talk) 16:05, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

@Placeholderer: Does {{discuss}} work for your purposes? You can modify the |text= parameter to change it to something else than "discuss". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:26, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Oh that's perfect! Thanks! Placeholderer (talk) 18:08, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

About using 'representative images' in infobox

Is there any clear Wikipedia policy regarding using a 'representative image' in the infobox, to depict phenotypes of ethnic groups? I can see that there is consensus not to use a gallery of group members as the lead image for ethnic groups, and that articles on European ethnic groups generally appear to avoid having any in the infobox, but I'm interested if there are any past discussions or policy prohibiting/restricting usage of images to illustrate phenotype in the lede. Sutyarashi (talk) 16:52, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Since ethnic groups (social constructs) do not have 'phenotypes' (traits of individual organisms), regardless of any other considerations this would be grossly inappropriate. Wikipedia is not an exercise in 19th-century scientific racism. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:01, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

I agree with you that ethnic groups shouldn't have a picture in the lede to portray how phenotypes of a certain people are like/supposed to look like. I wanted to know if there were any policy/discussions regarding it.

For the context, on Balti people there is a slow ongoing edit war among editors regarding what they think "ideal phenotype" of the ethic group is supposed to be. Sutyarashi (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for providing context. The most relevant policy, I think, is MOS:LEADIMAGE and, in this case, WP:EDITWAR. I've warned both users about the edit warring policy. They should discuss the most appropriate image on the talk page rather than continuing to revert. I don't think there is explicit guidance of what images should be used in the lead for an ethnic group, but MOS:LEADIMAGE does mention that "not having a lead image may be the best solution if there is no easy representation of the topic." You and the other editors should discuss at Talk:Balti people whether it makes sense to have a lead image and what it should be, rather than continuing to revert each other. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 23:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

The actual close explanation of the RFC regarding gallery or photomontage seems like it could be the basis for single/ideal image discussion as well. DMacks (talk) 00:09, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Yeah... it's not explicitly stated but I think the same logic applies. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:16, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

To rephrase my question somewhat better it was not about choosing what the image should be, which is arguably impossible to find without indulging in pseudoscientific notions of race and phenotypes, but rather is it needed or even desirable to have any images in the lead section and/or any relevant discussions. I'm of view infobox shouldn't have any and if it is necessary they should be in the main body. So far I'm getting the impression that for ethnic groups infobox shouldn't have pictures especially in the case of conflict. Sutyarashi (talk) 01:37, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

I'd agree, as regards to 'cases of conflict'. More generally, infoboxes are supposed to be used for uncontested factual content, and while a photo can only ever at best be 'representative' for an ethnic group, it would seem entirely reasonable to avoid including such a photo if there is genuine sourced debate about what might be appropriate. If people aren't citing sources, but just arguing based on their own opinions, they probably shouldn't be editing at all. We sometimes have to resort to personal opinion and subjective judgement over infobox images (see the long-running debate over the infobox image for the Human article), but we certainly shouldn't be framing such discussions around whether someone is 'really' a member of a particular ethnic group without a very good case to argue. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:55, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

"Harv and Sfn no-target errors"

On Junius Wilson I've tried correcting the refs to avoid this error message, but I'm woefully inept when it comes to certain technical aspects of this site. Does someone know how I can fix it? Thank you. APK hi :-) (talk) 04:32, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

@APK: I've fixed them. Most were caused by using the surname in the harv, but using "author = surname, firstname" in the citation template. Use "last = surname | first = forename" in teh citation template. The name in the harv must match that in the citation template exactly. For example I fixed one here. A couple were minor typos, for example here and here. The remainder were where you haven't got an author name, but use the name of a publication. In these you have to give the citation template a "name" of its own, for the harv to recognise. Use the name and date from the harv you've used, and put it in a SfnRef inside the citation template, like this. You can see the total changes I made here. All the best, DuncanHill (talk) 09:04, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your assistance! APK hi :-) (talk) 09:05, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

@APK: Oh, I actually didn't fix one, "The Associated Press (1992)" because I couldn't tell which source was meant. There isn't one listed from The Associated Press with a 1992 date. DuncanHill (talk) 09:07, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Oh, it might be one of these I removed because I didn't think they were in use (I had trimmed 1/3 of the article). APK hi :-) (talk) 09:09, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

And only one of those is 1992, so I've put it back, with the SfnRef to make it work. Thank you for writing the article. DuncanHill (talk) 09:14, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks a million! APK hi :-) (talk) 09:18, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Totally dissapointed

I got so excited when I got an email from Wilkpedia regarding my career as Santa Claus. I sent them a resume on my career as Santa, being a magician and motivational. I had an exciting career and I was so excited about being in Wilkpedia and when I got all my information together, a lady named Zoey told me I had to pay over $700 to be included in Wilkpedia. I hung up and was so disappointed.

THIS IS WHAT I SENT ~2026-35882-94 (talk) 15:05, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Tim Cavender Collapsed content DMacks (talk) 16:39, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Tim Cavender (born May 1, 1958) is a former Disc Jockey, Author, Motivational Speaker and professional Santa Claus.

Early life and education

Tim Cavender was born on May 1st, 1958 at the Tate Community Clinic. He is the son of Roger and Mildred Cavender. Roger was an automobile body repairman who painted the automobile that appeared in the movie Driving Miss Daisey. Mildred worked at the Georgiaa Marble Company in Tate, Georgia.

Tim Cavender attended Ball Ground Elementary School and Cherokee High School. While in high School, he worked part time at WCHK Radio Station in Canton, Georgia as a Disc Jockey. He also entered the high school’s talent show for doing impressions of television and movie stars. He received the First Place Student Award and the First Place Judges Award

Career

Tim went on to work as a Public Information Officer for Amicalola Electric Membership Corporation. He also worked at Cherokee County Fire and Emergency Services as their Public Information Officer. During this time while working, he traveled extensively throughout the southeast performing magic and closing with a motivational talk called The Magic Within You.

Santa Claus Career

In 1974, Tim’s classmates asked him to be their Santa Claus for their Christmas Assembly Program and his response was “Absolutely Not!” After a few days he gave in and told the students that he would do it. As he walked down the aisle doing his Ho Ho Ho’s, the students acted like children and loved seeing Santa. That was the start of his Santa career.

He purchased his first Santa suit and began appearing locally as Santa. He began to work on his Santa appearance and began traveling locally and throughout the southeast. Tim purchased an expensive Santa suit and started working on a theatrical beard to make him look like the real Santa Claus.

Tim’s Santa career began to blossom and he decided to start a Christmas Parade in his hometown of Ball Ground, Georgia. So, he went before the City Council and asked if he could do a parade and they agreed and the March of the Toys Parade was born and thousands of people attended the event for many years. During one of the parades, a sweet little four-year old girl came to sit on his lap and Santa asked her what she wanted for. The little girl said, “Santa, I want you to bring my daddy home for Christmas.” Santa asked her where her daddy was and she responded by saying that her daddy was a soldier in Afghanistan. Santa had a prayer with the little girl and when she got off Santa’s lap, her mother bent down and told him that her daddy was coming home in a few days. Santa told her mother to call him when he came back because he wanted to make her wish come true. A few days passed and Santa received the call. When she came home, she walked in to see Santa and Mrs. Claus in the living room. Santa asked her to come sit on his lap. Santa asked her about her daddy and make to make a wish and asked for her daddy to come home. The doorbell rang and the door opened and her daddy walked in. All the television stations in Atlanta picked it up and it was also shown on CNN.

During this time, Tim was approached by a local movie producer about being Santa in a movie called Charlie’s Christmas Wish. He went on to appear in another movie called Christmas at the Grey Horse Inn.

In 2014, Tim was inducted into the International Santa Claus Hall of Fane. Later, he became a member of the Knights of Saint Nicholas.

Unfortunately, in 2023, Tim had a stroke and a diagnosis of lung cancer. He has never smoked a cigarette in his life. His lung cancer is currently in remission.

HOLLYWOOD STARS

Tim has been seen as Santa with many TV stars including:

Charlene Tilton from Dallas

T G Shepard

Lulu Roman and Diana Goodman, who dated Elvis Presley and appeared on Hee Haw

~2026-35882-94 (talk) 15:06, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Good thing you hung up - that was a scammer. Legitimate Wikipedia editors will never contact an article subject by email and will never request money for edits. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 15:21, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Notable topics, including notable people, get an article free of charge. Other topics don't get an article and can not buy one. Anyone pretending to sell Wikipedia entries is a scammer, and you are right not to waste your money with them. Certes (talk) 15:35, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

See also User:TimCavender and User:Tcavender. DMacks (talk) 16:41, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

That user page is probably what inspired the scammer. Maproom (talk) 09:24, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Category naming conventions

I've noticed a user has been moving some articles on my watchlist from 'Y establishments in X' to 'X organisations established in Y' - Category:1972 establishments in the United Kingdom to Category:British organisations established in 1972, for instance. I was wondering if anyone might know where this has come from?

It feels a bit odd to me to refer to these organisations as 'British', maybe even a little politically charged, compared to stating the country in which they were established. Also rather ambiguous to be honest as I am sure there are many organisations that I might think of as British that were in fact founded elsewhere.

Wondering if anyone had any advice or knowledge about this? Xii Xii 09:58, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

@12xii: The United Kingdom is a country and "Bristish" here just means from the country the United Kingdom, like Category:1972 establishments in the United States versus Category:American organizations established in 1972. Some people argue that "American" can apply to all of North and South America but the normal convention in English is that "American" refers to the US. The difference between the category members is not UK versus British or US versus American but whether it's organisations. Category:British organisations established in 1972 is a subcategory of Category:1972 establishments in the United Kingdom, and Wikipedia wants articles to be in the most specific categories. There are also categories like Category:1972 establishments in Scotland but no Category:Scottish organisations established in 1972, so a Scottish organisation established in 1972 could be in Category:1972 establishments in Scotland and Category:British organisations established in 1972 at the same time, since the former is the most specific for location and the latter is the most specific for type. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:54, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Many thanks, I actually had looked to find a US version but couldn't find it. For all the orgs I've written pages for, I've somehow never seen the specific category below establishments in general. Cheers Xii Xii 11:15, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Self published books

Hello, following this diff, does it make sense to cite a self published book ()? Hard to know if this is self-promotion since it was an IP editor. My first thought is to revert this edit, but not sure. --Engineerchange (talk) 16:20, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

It probably falls foul of WP:SPS, though it might be looking at the book to see if it cites any acceptable sources for the content in question - it seems to include a fair amount of detail regarding sourcing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:25, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Is Claire Sterling an official editor?

I received an E-mail from Claire /Sterling offering to assist me create a Wikipedia page for a $650 fee. ~2026-35603-03 (talk) 20:48, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-35603-03. No reputable editor will offer to edit for a fee. That is a scam. See WP:SCAM. ColinFine (talk) 21:03, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

True, O golpe ta aí, cai quem quer VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 22:31, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Every offer to edit Wikipedia for money is a scam, unless it comes from someone you already know and trust in person. Even then, you should wonder "Why are they offering to edit Wikipedia? Is my already-trusted friend scamming me?" TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 07:08, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

If the proposed page is an article on a notable topic then please name it; someone may create the page free of charge. If not, then there is no procedure for buying an article: Wikipedia does not carry advertising. If the page would be an autobiography then this is strongly discouraged: if you are a notable person then it is better to wait for an uninvolved editor to write a neutral article about you. "Official editor" isn't a recognised rank or status here. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which everyone can edit, including you. Certes (talk) 08:27, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Please forward the email as WP:REPORTPAID instructs. 331dot (talk) 18:22, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Twinkle mobile

Is there any way to use Twinkle on a mobile phone without turning on a desktop computer? Can Twinkle be used through a mobile browser or any alternative method? Hirematviru (talk) 17:42, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

@Hirematviru: According to WP:TWINKLE, its not supported on the default mobile skin, but there is a patch you can use. See the section "Use on mobile devices". RudolfRed (talk) 18:29, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Submit value of a person

What are the most recommended ways to add a new value on a person who should be recognised ~2026-35764-36 (talk) 10:45, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Could you clarify what you mean by "add a new value"? If you mean adding information about a person on Wikipedia the recommended approach is to: Find independent reliable sources that discuss the person. Add only information that is supported by those sources. Cite the sources using references. Ensure the information is written neutrally and complies with Wikipedias biographies and verifiability policies. Can you provide an example of the information you would like to add? ~2026-35975-82 (talk) 13:45, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Most of the time, the reason that a person is not getting recognition on Wikipedia is that they don't yet have recognition from publishers that Wikipedia trusts. Wikipedia never trusts a subject, or the subject's supporters, to explain why the subject deserves recognition, and this is because Wikipedia intentionally ignores "deserving recognition". We only accept "already having proof of recognition". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:45, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Volleyball editors

This Help Desk is provided to answer questions relating to using and editing Wikipedia. Any such questions can be answered in a single thread, and discussions of user behaviour belong elsewhere. The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Volleyball editors are refusing to talk to me and want to delete my pages, even though they were okay with it a few weeks ago. They are completely ignoring me and someone needs to do something about it as they are not being civil and fair, which is how Wikipedia should be run like. I have never had problems with others sport sections in Wikipedia. But for some reason, volleyball people give me such a difficult time.

For example, this one editor deleted my work on the Volleyball Nations League pages and said that he deleted it because it created too many bytes. However, since then, I had reduced the bytes significantly through changing a few things round. Then, he reverts my edits within 15 minutes, saying it is unnecessary what I did. He literally said there were too many bytes, I then changed it to address his concerns, but then he deletes that too.

I also originally did something else which I thought would help the Volleyball Nations League pages and a similar thing happened. This time, he once again said there were too many bytes by has now changed his problems to being that the coding looks too difficult to read with the links I created. This change of reasoning for why he didn't like what I did is come across as very convenient to me.

Seriously, this is ridiculous and that is why I struggle to believe that my articles that were nominated for deletion were nominated ethically as they were fine with it a few weeks ago but now after I started changing different things, they now want to delete what I did even though I've spent hours and days doing it.

By the way, all I am doing are things that are common place in sports like Basketball, Handball, Water polo and a few others. They have even been done in other volleyball articles. Yet, volleyball editors are adamant to revert what I am doing. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 18:16, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Please do not start multiple threads on the same topic. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:41, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Well someone needs to bring attention to the volleyball editors and nothing was being done. Instead of wasting energy by talking to me, start talking to them about why the volleyball section runs like a cult. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 19:56, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Volleyball editors

I am having issues with volleyball editors who are constantly reverting my edits and anytime I respond with fair and justified facts, they just ignore me and I can't take it anymore. They are being unfair and running the volleyball section like a cult. I have tried to communicate fairly but it is getting nowhere. I need help because I feel so helpless and it has made my mental health worse. I have never been so neglected and when they rarely respond, be put down. Now, one editor want to delete my articles that I edited for days by myself with no help.

Also, I am not the only person who is having issues with the volleyball people as @SerdarBar is also having problems as they just ignored him too when he kindly just asked about a specific table. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 17:46, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Also, my was put up for deletion despite the person who did the nomination saying my work was commendable. That doesn't make any sense to me. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 17:51, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Since this is affecting your mental health, I think you should quit looking at volleyball articles for several months. A problem like the one you described - people acting in a cult-ish way - is likely to be very slow to get fixed, and you should not continue damaging your health to "be a hero" by being the one who fixes Wikipedia. Such a problem should be fixed, but not fixed by someone who will continue to get hurt by the process. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:04, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

I am grateful for your nice reply. But I just want to clarify this is not the first time I have dealt with these people as a similar situation happened three years ago. I swear he nominated my articles for deletion to punish me in some way as he was fine with the articles for two weeks. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 09:48, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

In a case involving mental health, "I've dealt with these people in the past" unfortunately just proves me right. They are going to strongly resist changing. Stop. For your own health, fully quit viewing volleyball articles for a long period of time. I see that the problem is worth fixing, but it is NOT worth fixing by you. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:17, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

But who will fix it then? They can't keep going on like this. What can be done to tell them how they are acting is wrong? There has to be someone who can discipline them, otherwise cultist behavior would be prevelant in every part of Wikipedia. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 19:29, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

"Who will fix it then?" - the only answer that matters is "Not you". Wikipedia is not worth your health, ever. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:31, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

"It's wrong for my mental health but I'm sticking with it because I so badly want to win" is a mentally unhealthy plan. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:29, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

I understand but I can't just give up on the volleyball pages because I have pages that need to be edited and they damn well will not help me. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 19:59, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

I appreciate you caring about my mental health but letting it go would be wrong and I am not going to let them bully me. When I started the conversation, I reached my limit mentally, but now I am a bit better and I want to find out ways to settle things. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 20:03, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

As user @ILoveSport2006 has already written, I have been experiencing a problem because my edits, which comply with Wikipedia's guidelines, are being removed without any explanation. I left a message on the talk page and also contacted user JonasKan directly on his talk page, but I have not received any explanation whatsoever. SerdarBar (talk) 15:52, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Colors in Template do not show up in Dark Mode

I applied a setting that allowed me to switch between light and dark mode while logged in, which I was not able to do before changing this setting. Now, the green and yellow colors that were in {{Oregon Health & Science University}} in Dark Mode no longer show up. Do you know how to switch this back? --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:43, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Dark mode automatically adjusts colours so that you don't get flash-banged by some unusually brightly coloured element on the page. In some cases this means that colours used by some templates are suppressed, probably because there's no suitable 'dark' equivalent. I'm not sure what determines which colours are kept, which are adjusted, and which are suppressed. It's possible to use CSS classes to suppress dark mode inversion in a template, but this is usually a bad idea (particularly as other users may not want dark mode suppressed for templates). There's no easy setting to suppress the inversion just for yourself. Maybe someone skilled with CSS could come up with a line your could add to Special:MyPage/common.css which accomplish what you, but I don't know for certain that something like that is possible. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 00:15, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I had it where the green and yellow did show up, and was hoping to get that back. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:18, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

As an aside, the navbox you linked is in Category:Potentially illegible navboxes so its colours need to be changed anyway for accessibility issues, regardless of dark mode. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 00:17, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Oh no! --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:19, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Specifically, the yellow on green has a contrast ratio of 1.9 and the standard blue link on green has a contrast ratio of 3.47, both of which fail WCAG AA. V, T, E, and hide are 1.04 which is practically invisible (a ratio of 1 means the foreground and background are the same color, so 1.04 is nearly that). - Purplewowies (talk) 08:36, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

I actually just went and stripped the styling entirely for now--all of the WCAG fails were bad but the 1.04 felt like it needed to be dealt with now even if a sufficiently contrasting color scheme might be possible. - Purplewowies (talk) 08:40, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

@Purplewowies:, do you know by what date colors might be reinstated in that navbox? --Jax 0677 (talk) 11:27, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: Whenever someone puts some back in? I took them out for accessibility concerns and do not personally have any intention of adding them back, but it's not like I'm against color in that navbox (I have no opinion on that navbox's color other than "it should probably be accessible). I just don't know enough about the university or the navbox to know what good (and accessible) color combos would be here. I just thought that it was important that the navbox be readable until such a point someone could figure out something more accessible, even if making it readable meant stripping the custom styling. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:40, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

@Purplewowies:, I have revised the color scheme for the navbox, please let me know what you think. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:23, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

It looks like this time the contrast is a bit better in at least some of the cases (Firefox is not reporting too-low contrast on the accessibility tab of developer tools), though the sidebar cells (the green ones) are reporting contrast of 2.97 (fails WCAG AA). Funnily enough, if the text color on those were just... black, the contrast would be fine (7.07 which is WCAG AAA compliant), but I get the feeling black on green would get people who are thinking more about whether the color combo is aesthetically pleasing than whether or not it's higher contrast thinking it looks bad, even though it's more accessible. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:13, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

@Purplewowies:, I decided to try black on green, and it looks OK to me. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:19, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

"I attempted to make edits because only the suggestions told me to."

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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At User talk:~2026-34436-48 We see a brand new editor who appears to have made a good faith effort to improve Wikipedia by doing what "the suggestions told me to". This is the third time I have seen this. Clearly some automated process (maybe part of visual editor? Maybe something to do with mobile?) is giving these new editors suggestions and the result is experienced editors and administrators having to clean up the mess this causes. I have to assume that only the WMF can do something like that. Am I wrong? Is, say, Google making suggestions about editing Wikipedia pages?

So I have two questions:

[1] Exactly where are these suggestions coming from? What program decides what to suggest? Is there any way an ordinary editor can trigger the feature and see the suggestions for a particular page, or do I have to use a different device and pretend to be a new unregistered editor?

[2] Where is the proper place to post an RfC discussing whether we should have some clanker suggest edits and use innocent newbies as meatpuppets to make the actual edits?

--Guy Macon (talk) 22:29, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm not aware of any external program that makes suggestions, but it might exist. It sounds like they're seeing the 'suggested edits/articles' on their homepage and editing according to those, which usually have general suggestions like 'add more reliable sources'. Not sure though. TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 00:07, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

The tags on indicate it's "Suggestion mode" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. See mw:Edit check/Suggestions. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:05, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, that looks like what I was talking about (I'd only encountered those through the homepage before). TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 01:41, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

@Guy Macon, I see you've gotten your specific answer already, but also fyi that the team working on this is at WT:GTF if you have further questions. In solidarity, asilvering (talk) 01:43, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

I just realized that I asked a similar question at Wikipedia:Help desk#Edit Suggestion. Note to self: next time, smoke crack after editing Wikipedia.

When I finish typing this I am going to enable suggestion mode in preferences. More after I do that and see what kind of suggestions it makes. --Guy Macon (talk) 01:30, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Guy Macon I was going to tell you that. I managed to enable suggestion mode. I accepted one of three suggestions, all removing external links, at Herbert Durham. TSventon (talk) 01:37, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

I think these are the kinds of task documented at Wikipedia:Growth Team features#Newcomer tasks. —In solidarity with Wiki Workers United · ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email) 01:47, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! That seems like a much better place to discuss this. Could someone who isn't involved in this discussion please close this as resolved with a link to Growth Team features#Newcomer tasks in the collapse statement? Thanks!

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Where to best report a quackery article?

Found a quackery article from 2019, that seemingly has not been detected since. Manuel Rendon, a 3D printer filament sales person advertising himself as "a breakthrough inventor" with outlandish claims about his products. And at worst echo chambers on all pages where his company is mentioned (Reddit and Google Groups), and at best non constructive discussions where the questions asked are never answered.

The "awards" referred to all seem to be dead end corporations with names that "sound like" prestigious awards (such as Reuters GSI), but actually aren't, just named similarly. The only published article mentioning his company is one in Yahoo finance which is authored by the company itself, so I assume that is a paid for guest article. Or is Yahoo finance contributing not even behind a paywall?

I could either go to nominate for deletion, but I don't know if deletion is the best starting point, as deleting pages of prominent fraud schemes can worsen disinformation by making any information harder to find. But perhaps this specific case is not prominent enough to require an article on Wikipedia for that, and that should fall to local journalism instead. Ybllaw (talk) 09:51, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

You have nominated it for deletion, so all further discussion will take place there. Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:15, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Ybllaw. Unless the "prominent fraud scheme" has been the subject of multiple independent in-depth discussion, then it is irrelevant to Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 17:36, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

That is not how the logic of AFD works. Dismissing fraud on the basis of "it hasn't been debunked" is not how science works. The lack of proof of the claims presented on the page is the problem. Not "the lack of disproof". Please head over to the talk page to reply. Ybllaw (talk) 19:44, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

"Fraud" is a separate issue from "unsupported claims". Lying is not fraud. (Fraud probably requires lies, but that doesn't make them equivalent.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:57, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it "quackery". The article makes no medical claims. Maproom (talk) 07:26, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Donations

I donate via my CC 9$ CAD every month. Yet I keep getting noise about donating in my way when I visit your site on my phone. I'm actually about to stop the donations unless you can stop this. It's really effing annoying. ~2026-36253-01 (talk) 07:10, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Welcome and thank you for your question about donations! To hide the fundraising banners, please see Wikipedia:Suppress display of the fundraising banner. The Wikimedia Foundation does not track the identity of IP addresses, so it doesn't know your age, income level or whether you donated in the past.
None of the Wikipedia volunteer editors here who add and improve content in articles receive any financial benefit. We all contribute our time because we care about building a great encyclopedia for you and innumerable others around the world to use.
If you cannot afford it, no one wants you to donate. You are welcome to communicate directly with the donor-relations team by emailing donate@wikimedia.org. Thank you! The donor team manages the banners; the volunteers who edit articles and answer questions at the help desk have no control over the banners. —In solidarity with Wiki Workers United · ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email) 07:18, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-36253-01 You may also be interested to read about Wikipedia finances. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:28, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Globe telecom one link

refund payment ~2026-36319-28 (talk) 08:27, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, can you please clarify what you need help with? This is an encyclopedia so we can't help with refunds. In solidarity, Blue-Sonnet (I'm listening) 10:11, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Script warning

Hi,

I was updating photo into "Port Renfrew" page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Renfrew ) , and was getting the following error so not sure if it's a concern?

Script warning:  {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help): this reference has errors; messages may be hidden (help). 

I still saved my changes, but I basically added a new photo and updated photo description.

thanks for any assistance.

Mike Mpeel (talk) 14:51, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Mpeel, the error was present before your recent edits. The error is that reference 2 uses {{cite web}}, which is for web sources, but does not include a url. TSventon (talk) 15:03, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Adding language but translation already exists

I have made the page for Hong Kong Island Cluster and it has a Chinese version already, how do I add language and make it able to switch between my page (eng) and the original chin page?

Thanks! Ilovetf2somuchwow (talk) 14:55, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Do you mean getting both versions to show up on that language selector feature? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:05, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

I think they want to create a Wikidata item and link both articles to it. TSventon (talk) 16:13, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

I have linked the items and copied some detail from Hong Kong West Cluster (Q15932589) to Hong Kong Island Cluster (Q140315036). TSventon (talk) 16:24, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Talk page Archiving Help

Hi,

I am trying to archive some chats on my talk page but I am not sure I understand this, “all the other stuff with curly brackets at the top of the edit box”, trying to explain where to paste the code.

I am not sure I do know where to paste the code. A bit confusing. Can someone help with a screenshot? Or better explanation?

Best! Obinna Tony (talk) 17:07, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

You've looked here: Help:Archiving a talk page? Cattenion (talk) 17:16, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

I added a code to your talk page - the relevant wikibot should now archive automatically. Cattenion (talk) 17:19, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Obinna Tony (talk) 17:34, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Food Templates

Hi! Are there any guidelines regarding the creation and use of food-related templates? Which option is recommended for use in articles?

• Template:American cuisine
• Template:Taiwanese cuisine

Barseghian Lilia (talk) 19:29, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Also, some template documentations state, "If there is an existing infobox, do not add this template." What does that mean? And why this documentation differ from that one? Barseghian Lilia (talk) 19:41, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Barseghian Lilia, the one should/may be used for American cuisine, the other should/may be used for Taiwanese cuisine. In this context, "American" seems to refer to the USA rather than one or both of the Americas; "Taiwanese" to the current population of Taiwan rather than only the indigenous population. "If there is an existing infobox, do not add this template" means, I suppose, "If there's already an infobox, don't add this as a second infobox". What to do for a US adaptation of a Taiwanese dish, or a Taiwanese adaptation of a US dish, can be discussed on the talk page of the specific article: what you can't do is have both infoboxes. The documentation for Template:Azerbaijani cuisine differs from that of Template:Chinese cuisine because there's nothing to constrain the editing of either, and different editors have, unsurprisingly, made different edits to each. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 23:52, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much Hoary, but my question was about something else. Why are different designs being used for food-related templates? For example, if you look at the templates for Armenian, Greek, Israeli, Levantine, and Turkish cuisines at the very end of this article, they all have one style, whereas at the beginning of the article there is the "Part of a series on Azerbaijani cuisine" template, which stands out from the others. Is there any established design standard or guideline for cuisine- and food-related templates? Barseghian Lilia (talk) 12:23, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

"Navbox" is quite a contrast with "infobox", Barseghian Lilia.

At the foot of the article Dolma (but in "desktop" view only), we have a number of templates, e.g. Template:Armenian cuisine. Each uses Template:Navbox. Instances of this may be stacked (and often are); for other notes on its use, see Wikipedia:Navigation template. A navbox points readers to other articles that may interest them.

At the head of the same article, we have Template:Infobox food. This uses Template:Infobox, whose documentation tells us: Help:Infobox contains an introduction to the recommended content and design of infoboxes; Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes contains additional style guidelines. An infobox provides pertinent (?) facts about the subject of the article.

The same pattern -- one infobox, several navboxes -- is often encountered. Consider an article unrelated to food, Mount Elbrus: This has Template:Infobox mountain at its head; five navboxes at its foot.-- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:22, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your detailed and clear explanation, Hoary! Barseghian Lilia (talk) 17:48, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Editorial removed

Why is my editing on the page named "List of players who have scored 2,000 or more runs in Women's Twenty20 International cricket" being removed? Soumyabnrj02 (talk) 18:15, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Could you give a diff of a specific edit of yours that has been reverted? Asking because it's hard to suss out anything from just looking at the article history because no human editor has provided an edit summary at that article for the past three years so it's very difficult to figure out what any specific edit may have added or removed without looking at each and every diff one by one. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:41, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

I had sorted the table with runs in descending order ~2026-35629-39 (talk) 07:48, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

@Soumyabnrj02, there's no need to sort the table by editing, since you can use the arrows on the top of the table columns to sort by different statistics. It is normal to keep it sorted by date. -- Reconrabbit (talk) 20:21, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Make a new one how?

How do i make a new artical BJJ FANATIC SWEDEN (talk) 22:13, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

I suggest you take a look at Wikipedia:HOW as an introduction to contributing and Help:Your first article in particular. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:18, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

BJJ FANATIC SWEDEN, Ceyockey's suggestion was good; but it was clear from your user page (which I deleted a few minutes ago as flagrantly promotional) that just suggesting it was inadequate. Read Wikipedia:HOW, and digest it. Then read Help:Your first article and digest it. If you have questions about what you read, ask here. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:20, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Sometimes visual editor will undo my changes and other errors

I'm on Chrome and sometimes when I edit a section, once I click the next section, I see that all my changes get reverted. Occasionally, it also adds a bunch of typos and weird punctuations in the middle of words. Anybody know why? Wolfcolallc (talk) 03:30, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Like an earlier item here, I think this is better addressed at Wikipedia:TECHPUMP. I'll create a cross-reference to this n that forum momentarily. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:39, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

User groups

Should an editor who edits mostly at the Wikipedia or Wikipedia talk namespace in a minor capacity, excluding bots and approved alternate accounts, receive the confirmed and autoconfirmed usergroups, if they do not contribute beyond trivial discussions to Wikipedia? Does this count as WP:PGAME? Go D. Usopp (talk) 03:12, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

If you want idle discussion, there's not really any place on Wikipedia that accepts idle discussion. If you have an honest proposal to make, you should look at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:09, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

1. "...if they do not contribute beyond trivial discussions..?" No. Idle discussion indeed not approved on WP. But do vaguely humorous asides count?

2. Does this count as WP:PGAME? Yes. MinorProphet (talk) 12:42, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Which noticeboard should I send details about this issue to? Go D. Usopp (talk) 12:55, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

@Go D. Usopp: violations of WP:PGAME are discussed at WP:ANI, I suggest searching for recent mentions of WP:PGAME in the WP:ANI archive to see the kinds of editing that are reported. As an ANI novice, I would probably wait until they start editing in an area reserved for extended confirmed editors. TSventon (talk) 13:44, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

@Go D. Usopp PGAME requires an intent to circumvent the system. One can argue that an editor who naturally gains these perms through primarily non-mainspace editing might not actually be prepared for the privileges those perms give them, but it's not PGAME. PGAME means the intentional act of doing things like making lots of dummy/minor edits to inflate your edit count very quickly. Athanelar (talk) 08:28, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Sloppy bot archival at Talk:Vatican City

The archives for Talk:Vatican City are out of chronological order because the page switched to a poorly-configured automatic archival in 2019, and also older content was inappropriately removed during this process. There are 3 archives, but new stale discussions are being sent to the second archive. I'm trying to recompile all the archived discussions in the correct order at User:LaundryPizza03/sandbox6. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:17, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Worse yet, some of the manual archives seem to have been in 'reverse chronological order. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:19, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

This might be better posted at WP:TECHPUMP. I'll put a cross-reference there shortly. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:28, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

I think at this point, I have calculated the chronological order, including 8 new attributions for undated sections. Final results: Special:Diff/1360672068. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:32, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

@LaundryPizza03: Somebody requested bot archiving with |maxarchsize=150000 |numberstart=1 in 2019. This means: Fill each archive page up to 150,000 bytes starting with Archive 1. That's bad if there are existing smaller archives. After your cleanup, set numberstart to the last archive or one more. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:55, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Error in Article

I am confused/ How, where do I attempt to correct an error in an article? And how are going to anxwer me? My email address is (Redacted)

Howi Gilman ~2026-36436-47 (talk) 21:13, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

If you have permission to edit the article, you should be able to just click the pencil icon and fix it yourself. Where is the error? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 21:20, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

See Help:Getting started if you still need help. Do not share your email address on Wikipedia. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:22, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Also useful, see Wikipedia:Emailing users . --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:45, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• Might be useful also to take a look at the essay Wikipedia:Mistakes are allowed. Also, sometimes perceived errors are a result of someone adding unnecessary editorial content to an article, in which case the best approach would be to remove such content and add to the page's Talk page rather than Wikipedia:EDITWAR in the article content. Regards, --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:37, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Howi, and thank you for wanting to help us improve Wikipedia.

The best approach depends on what kind of error it is. If it is a simple typo, you can usually just edit the article to correct it (but be aware that spelling rules are not the same everywhere where people speak English - see WP:ENGVAR). If it's an obvious mistake like the wrong year, similarly.

But other kinds of error can be more complicated: sometimes "everybody knows" something that is not in fact true (see Mandela effect). Sometimes you know something because you were there, but all the books say something different - in that case, unfortunately, Wikipedia goes with what the books say, because if information is not verifiable it is not helpful to a reader.

And sometimes there are things that different people genuinely disagree about (for example, many aspects of politics, national identity, fringe medicine) and there often one person's "error" is another person's "truth", and Wikipedia does its best to steer a neutral path, relying on the reliable published sources.

So, if it is something that you think most people would agree is an error, you can just go ahead and correct it (but don't get upset if somebody disagrees: then you can discuss the matter, see WP:BRD). For anything else, the best approach is to open a discussion on the article's talk page (every article has one, though sometimes it hasn't been created yet) to see if other people agree with you. ColinFine (talk) 11:29, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Due to edit conflict on 2024 Filton Elbit Systems break-in I lost my draft

Due to an edit conflict yesterday, I was using visual editor and it couldn't merge my edits with the new edit. Are you able yo assist with this as I spent the day editing only to lose my work? I've tried looking for a local copy and nothing was saved. I tried to publish my edits but it wouldn't let me and then when I pressed back and accepted the changes it had lost all of my work.

2024 Filton Elbit Systems break-in Greenpark79 (talk) 09:10, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Opening the source editor often prompts to recover lost changes as there's some saving mechanism there, but I'm not sure if it saves changes made in the visual editor as well. Otherwise, I don't think there's much that can be done if you don't have a copy if your work. {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs|in solidarity}} 10:42, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

The source editor doesn't show my changes from yesterday and it appears to have not saved anywhere from the browser local storage or on the page or in my sandbox. Greenpark79 (talk) 11:11, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

@Greenpark79: If "Enable the Edit Recovery feature" is enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing then Special:EditRecovery may help. It cannot recover edits from before it was enabled. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:24, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

I wasn't even aware of that until yesterday. Greenpark79 (talk) 11:58, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

I do have problem with Confirming email address! Can anyone help?

So, I know I have had this problem for a while, but recently I found the info about this issue, AND I CAN'T disable it! And it says: "To finish setting up your account, confirm your email address. This is required if you ever need to recover your account, and other features and security protections on Wikipedia may require a confirmed email." So, I attempted to send the confirmation email address. It also said: "A confirmation code has already been emailed to you; if you recently created your account, you may wish to wait a few minutes for it to arrive before trying to request a new code." Then I clicked "Link a confirmation code", and even though I checked Gmail (but for the record I do not have an Outlook account). And I found nothing... I tried everything; I checked the Spam or Promotions section, but I couldn't find my code anywhere!!!

So can anyone give me a guide, advice or any help to solve this issue? (Or any way to disable Gmail filters?) SI Moon Grubisz440 (talk) 21:39, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

How long ago did you click through the 'confirm your email address' option? It could be that you've not waited long enough. It is possible that the sending of the email is dependent upon some adminstrator activity, in which case (if a manual step is needed??) then it might be a day or more before the confirmation email comes through. I'm speculating on the reason, but I'd suggest letting some time pass. Regards --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:24, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

@Grubisz440: The email address is stored at Special:Preferences. If you don't have an email address where mail from Wikipedia gets through (see Comparison of webmail providers for some free options for an alternative address) then you can remove the address. You will be unable to recover the account if you forget the password. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:15, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, problem solved! I just changed my Wikipedia password to connect with Gmail via "New Password" by changing it to be identical. Everything went well as intended, and I successfully confirmed the email address; in other words, it works, for now.

Thank you for your support and tips for it! Have a day and relief!! SI Moon Grubisz440 (talk) 11:59, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

4 months and article still has noindex tag

Hello I created an article 4 months ago and it still has the noindex tag. Shouldn’t it be removed after 90 days?Extended phase graph NathanBeaumont (talk) 22:12, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

I do not see that the article has the NOINDEX magic word in it's raw content. Could you point it out if you see it? --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:21, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

The article doesn't appear to have a noindex tag (it has <meta name="robots" content="max-image-preview:standard"> in the html, which would contain noindex if it was noindexed), Google just haven't indexed it yet. Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing suggests making any edit to see if this fixes it. Danski454 (talk) 22:25, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

OK I’ve made a minor edit to see if Google indexes it now. NathanBeaumont (talk) 02:31, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

@NathanBeaumont: Extended phase graph is indexed by Google now. Always state your real goal and not just something you think is needed (XY problem). It was me who added the tip to Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing so it's nice to see it works. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:48, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

My bad not realizing the noindex tag was already gone. I confirmed the page is now indexed on Google thanks guys. NathanBeaumont (talk) 14:10, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Citation error, how do I correct or reply the message left in my dashboard

Reference error

How do I reply the message left on my dashboard Amaka of God (talk) 16:41, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Amaka of God you don't need to reply as the message is automatic. The BusinessDay reference in Saburi Biobaku included |last=BusinessDay . The bot recognised that BusinessDay is not a normal human last name, so it left you a message. I removed it as BusinessDay is already mentioned as the website. TSventon (talk) 16:56, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Translation template for words with grammatical gender variation in context?

I was curious if there is a template or standardized treatment for introducing a non-English term with grammatical gender, wherein I want to introduce multiple genders at once: specifically I am working on a page wherein I want to introduce men and women in the trokiando subculture - takuaches and takuchitas - simultaneously as self-identifying terms. Thank you, chickenpox4dinner (talk · contribs · email) 16:49, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

I am not aware of a template, you could look at the first sentence of Latino (demonym) or Chicano. TSventon (talk) 17:06, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

How do I nominate a redirect for deletion?

I've got more than 35K edits, but it's been a while, and I've forgotten how to do this. Crystal Rae redirects to an article that does not mention her, or have anything to do with her. How do I nominate this for deletion? How do I access the link page rather than the targeted page? ubiquity (talk) 08:38, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

When you arrive at the redirect target, you should see text near the top that says "Redirected from Crystal Rae"; click on the link and it will take you to the Crystal Rae redirect page. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

@Ubiquity: There is usually a reason for a redirect even if the target doesn't currently show it. A search shows her body was both called Racine County Jane Doe and Crystal Rae before being identified. Consider adding "or Crystal Rae" instead of deleting the redirect. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:08, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! ubiquity (talk) 17:42, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

New to wiki. Possible conflict of interest for possible new person of notability article?

Hi, I am a new editor to Wiki. I used to be a paid employee of an organization but am now just a volunteer. As a volunteer, I have been asked to try to get a Wiki article on my organization's CEO as a person of notability. Is this still a major conflict? What do you think my chances are of getting an article if I disclose this connection? Thanks! Martinique24 (talk) 20:37, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

It depends on what relationship you have to the organisation now, but it sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

The fact that you have a conflict of interest doesn't inherently make an article you write less likely to be accepted; when reviewing an article (which will be done, as all new CoI articles must go through articles for creation), the main factors taken into account are:

• Is the person notable?
• Is the article adequately supported by reliable sources?
• Is the article written from a neutral point of view?

As long as you ensure the article meets those criteria, you have a high likelihood of it being accepted. {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs|in solidarity}} 20:42, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

It depends on what relationship you have to the organisation now, but it sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

As far as I know, "a relationship" is already a conflict of interest, regardless of what kind or what level of relationship. In addition, "former employee" is a very close relationship, even including a former employee who now hates their former employer. ("Close but in a bad way" would describe such a relationship.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:08, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, you still have a conflict of interest. Volunteer work can also still be paid editing because volunteers usually put the experience on their resumes, making the experience the "payment". 331dot (talk) 21:11, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Martinique24.

Please read WP:BOSS, and show it to whoever asked you to do what is very probably an impossible task. ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• Also, consider using Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and economics/People in business . Regards, --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:43, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Notifications victims soldiers war Iran 2026

Hello.Actualization numbers of deaths Israelians soldiers. Was remain to 32 to your oage,but 2 days ago 5 Israelians soldiers was killed in Lebanon. So total numbers is 37 Israelians soldiers died. ~2026-36241-80 (talk) 11:42, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-36241-80. Thank you for your suggestion.

Wikipedia is not a news outlet - we haven't got a paid staff who will keep articles about developing events up to date, so we don't attempt to.

If you were an established editor I would suggest that you make an edit request, but as an unregistered new editor, you are not permitted to edit or even take part in a discussion on articles in contentious topics. ColinFine (talk) 12:15, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

You're still allowed to make edit requests to contentious topics as a non-extended-confirmed user, but that's the only way you're allowed to discuss them. {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs|in solidarity}} 12:31, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

I would say casualties in the conflict are a contentious issue and not something a non-EC user should request- but it does depend on the specifics. 331dot (talk) 18:55, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Publishing a Page

I want to publish a page about an AI security company named Aurascape. But I don't know what steps to take first. https://aurascape.ai/ Biglal (talk) 18:36, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Useful steps are in WP:Your first article. But you need a step 0: if you are connected to this company in any way, you need to read WP:COI and follow the steps in there to declare conflict of interest. If you are paid for this, or are an employee of the company, you also need to read WP:PAID and follow the steps in there.

Most companies can't have Wikipedia articles due to lack of secondary sources (independent, reliable outside coverage). I suggest looking for sources before you write a single word: get them together, look at them as objectively as you can, decide if they meet criteria. If not, there's no point spending time writing, as the article will be rejected or deleted. M kuhner (talk) 18:44, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

I am going to state first and foremost that creating a new article is a monumental task when you are starting out. Learning the ins and outs of wikipedia takes time and can be done by trying out newcomer tasks and reading help pages, or trying out the wikipedia adventure to start learning more advanced editing techniques. You will have a rough time trying to get an article on this subject approved - nearly all the sources I could find do not fulfill the source reliability criteria, that is, they are all trivial coverage talking about how much money has been invested into this company. -- Reconrabbit (talk) 20:18, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Biglal.

If you are in any way connected to this company, I suggest you read WP:BOSS, and show it to your boss. (Even if you are not, you may find it a useful read). ColinFine (talk) 20:39, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

on filters within sandboxes...?

well, this is a strange case, in that i intend on tripping some specific edit filters without risking edits actually going on mainspace

is there some sandbox or similar space, or way to create one, that is subject to all the same restrictions as mainspace pages without itself being in mainspace?

don't worry, it's nothing sanction-worthy consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 00:13, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

New article

Hi, I'm returning to Wiki after a long time. I started an article but I think on my userpage. Now I can't find it. Can anyone help? Case Against (talk) 18:43, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

This is your new article? VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 18:54, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Case Against. You don't have any contributions other than this post and the post at your talk page. Did you edit whilst logged out? Did you press Publish page? Publish page is akin to "Save" in Microsoft Word. Wikipedia doesn't have an auto-save feature. If you didn't click Public page then I am afraid your work is lost and can not be recovered. qcne (talk) 19:16, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I suspected the same. Back to the drawing board. I didn't press publish page because I hadn't finished. Do you recommend starting in the sandbox? Case Against (talk) 19:18, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

@Case Against Darn, I am sorry. That is frustrating but it is pretty common. We recommend keeping an off-Wiki backup. You can start in your personal sandbox, or as a sub-page under your Userpage, or as a draft via WP:Articles for Creation. qcne (talk) 19:24, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes there is nothing worse than running with the ball without saving. Second time lucky. Many thanks. Case Against (talk) 21:35, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Completed an article in my sandbox. HOw do I move it to be approved? Case Against (talk) 22:38, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

I moved your draft to Draft:Norma Procter and submitted it for review for you. Right now, the backlog is pretty long, so it may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 4,616 pending submissions waiting for review. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 02:54, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

That is very kind of you @SomeoneDreaming I really appreciate your help. Case Against (talk) 14:26, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Also how to I jump in to helping with reviews? Randomly I saw one today that I thought was really good and relevant. Shall I post it here so someone with more experience can take a look or what is the process so I can do so? Case Against (talk) 14:37, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

You can apply to become a Articles for Creation reviewer once you meet the criteria. We're always on the lookout for new reviewers so do check in once you meet the criteria to see if you can be accepted probationary! qcne (talk) 14:43, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks @Qcnethat makes sense. If I see a draft article that looks okay to me can I mention it in a thread? Anything to do with performance, Wales and Latin America are my thing so sometimes I have an eye for what is authentic. Case Against (talk) 15:08, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

I wonder if something like Asociación de Artes Escénicas del Valle de Chubut exists. :) (though I'm not sure if you meant the performing-arts kind of performance or the fast-cars kind of performance) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:43, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Probably. What do you think? Case Against (talk) 01:56, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

I think it would be a convenient all-in-one combination of "performance, Wales, Latin America". That's all. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:07, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

@Case Against Since you have been away for a while, do you know how to verify references, and are you familiar with all of the notability guidelines at WP:N? If so, great, but it takes a while to learn. I have a moderate number of edits, but I don't feel comfortable reviewing articles. David10244 (talk) 05:54, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks @David10244 - it is all a learning curve. I've just added more references so let's see. Case Against (talk) 18:33, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

@Case Against I meant that in relation to your desire to become a new article reviewer. David10244 (talk) 02:28, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Add a case-sensitive disclaimer to username part of log-in

The username part of the log in must have a disclaimer saying it is case-sensitive. — Ultimate Ultimatum (talk) 19:00, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Nearly all username systems are case sensitive so it seems unnecessary to mention at every login. It's mentioned at Help:Logging in#Login issues and problems, and mw:Help:Logging in#What if I forget the password or username? which is linked on the login screen. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

OK. — Ultimate Ultimatum (talk) 20:48, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

@UltimateUltimatum I suspect you mean an instruction. See disclaimer. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:16, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter "Nearly all" might be correct, but Microsoft Windows and (from what Google says) MacOS logins are not case-sensitive... David10244 (talk) 02:37, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

New company wikipedia

I am part of a newly formed company and I want to create a wikipedia page. We have an old page for our previous product but we want a new page for this new product. Is this a conflict of interest? Andreacutright (talk) 19:33, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes, creating an article (not a 'page') for a company and/or product you are involved with absolutely involves a conflict of interest. And note that we really aren't interested in what you want. Wikipedia is an online encyclopaedia, not an advertising platform, and whether we chose to have an article on a specific topic is determined by the subject's notability, as demonstrated through in-depth coverage in independent published reliable sources. Likewise the content of the article itself must be based around such sources. And note that not only will you not have any control over what an article on your company and/or product says, but per our WP:CoI policy, you will be expected declare your CoI explicitly, and to make proposals regarding content rather than editing the article yourself. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:43, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• Consider using Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and economics/Companies . Regards --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:41, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

  @Ceyockey The Requested Article pages are pretty useless; those pages are considered dead ends. Almost none of the volunteer editors here will be motivated to create an article from what is requested there. The Help pages rarely suggest to an editor that they use Requested Articles... Also, new companies almost never have independent articles published about them, which is a requirement for a company to have an article about it here. David10244 (talk) 03:00, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

  @Ceyockey FYI, I know you have been here a long time, but I see, almost all the time, that hosts tell (new) editors that Requested Articles is not really useful. I didn't want to presume that you were new... Cheers! David10244 (talk) 03:11, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

@Andreacutright See WP:Advice for paid editors. I'd also appreciate if you could direct us to the old page for our previous product so that we can take a look at it. Athanelar (talk) 08:26, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

i need help updating an old profile photo for a person

it's not my own profile but for a person I have authority to do edit. the photo is old from 2011 on the German page and I want to upload and update the photo Nikipham (talk) 13:07, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Nikipham.

For advice on the German Wikipedia, you should ask there: try de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia.

But since you're almost certainly going to want to use Wikipedia Commons, I suggest you look at C:Help:Upload .

Note that images uploaded to Commons must be free to reuse, so it's not enough for the copyright owner to give permission for the image to be used on Wikipedia: they must license it under an acceptable licence. (If you took the picture yourself, then you are probably the copyright owner, and can license it "on the fly"). ColinFine (talk) 13:23, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you @ColinFine @Gråbergs Gråa Sång. I'm able to figure how to upload a file but not sure how it works so that the photo is updated on the German Wikipedia as well as the English one of the person's page. Nikipham (talk) 16:12, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

@Nikipham If the article has an infobox, you do it like so:. If not, File:Matthias Hentze 2020.jpg has a link at the top, "Use this file" on a wiki, click that and use the provided code. But I don't know if you can edit German WP articles at this point, you might have to ask someone there to do it for you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

@Nikipham If you have contact with the subject or photographer, Wikipedia:A picture of you has helpful guidance too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:06, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

One more point, @Nikipham.

You said "I have authority to do edit".

This is meaningless on Wikipedia.

With certain restrictions, anybody may edit any article, and absolutely nobody has any special "authority" over a particular article.

Your wording suggests that the subject of the article may have given you "authority". If that is the case, then you probably have a conflict of interest, and have less standing to edit the article than most people, not more. If you indeed have a conflict of interest, then on English Wikipedia you should not edit the article directly, but should instead make edit requests. I am not familiar with the policies and practices on German Wikipedia, so I don't know how far that is true there. ColinFine (talk) 18:08, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Updating A Profile Picture

Hi - I am trying to update a profile picture for someone. I am authorized to use the image and in order to complete the copyright license they need this information. Particularly number 2, who can I contact to get this information and make sure I have all the correct permissions?

With respect to Wikipedia, what I need to complete the copyright license is as follows:

1. Name of Project
2. Name and title of person signing the copyright license from Wikipedia
3. Email address of signer
4. The legal company name of Wikipedia
5. Company address

MarenCole (talk) 18:27, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

The simplest way to add a new photo is to take one with the person's permission and to allow it to have a Creative Commons license. If the photo is copyrighted things become more complicated, as photos of a living person generally should not be fair use.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:35, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

This would be something that is cleared to use and download, both by the photographer and the subject. I know it may be a bit more complicated but what is the best way to go about it? MarenCole (talk) 18:39, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

@MarenCole: You having the authorisation means absolutely nothing, as you are not the one hosting the image. Wikipedia would need the permission, and as Ianmacm hints at above we do not even attempt to use fair-use images of living people and thus wouldn't bother to seek that permission in the first place. You're wasting your time trying to fill out that copyright release. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Object Class: Drygioni} 18:44, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

As stated in one of the threads above, Wikipedia:A picture of you explains the best way to go about this. There would be a problem with a wedding photograph type of situation if the photographer or the subject wanted to retain the copyright. It's best to start fresh with an image that has Creative Commons licensing, as this can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons straight away and without any problems.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:46, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Refund payment

refund payment plss ~2026-36319-28 (talk) 19:41, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Refund payment plss ~2026-36319-28 (talk) 19:43, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

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URGENT HELP!

How can I get a page undeleted? Something I spent a long time on. I've requested it through the form twice and haven't seen anything change! 5dventures (talk) 00:08, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Please don’t ask the same question on two different boards. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 00:21, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

apologies, just desperate for help 5dventures (talk) 00:25, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Directions please?

Hello, any idea where would be the best place to weigh in this update that puts a photo gallery at the top of mobile pages. I'm all for it, mostly, but there's one tweak that would keep me personally from losing my mind LOL and I wanted to just add it to the feedback queue if one exists. Please and thank you!!

Technical issue 2026-06-24

jengod (talk) 03:50, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@Jengod Perhaps Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RfC_on_the_new_Image_Carousel_feature. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:06, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Bless. Thank you muchly. jengod (talk) 04:15, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Resolved

jengod (talk) 04:22, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Shrek edit request

Greetings. In Shrek it is written that the 25th anniversary theatrical re-release will only be in the US. But that's not true. It's going to be shown all over the world. Could someone fix this? ~2026-35599-34 (talk) 11:01, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

If there is sourcing for this, you can make an edit request at Talk:Shrek, because the article is currently semi-protected.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:52, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

That's why i'm here. If it wasn't protected, i would have already edited it. ~2026-35599-34 (talk) 06:03, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Native searching

I am having a bit of difficulty understanding H:INTITLE.

E.g., intitle:/\(academic\)/ (search), works (wonderfully) to isolate a particular disambiguator in titles and only show results containing exactly that ('(academic)' in this example). I saw someone else link one this one way and have been emulating it. I do not understand why intitle:/(academic)/ (search) or even the more basic intitle:(academic) does not work. Something to do with "metacharacters" being in play, I presume?

Most importantly, I do not understand why or how the excellent solution that I have found works (and I would very much like to, because I may be able to adapt it to other uses with that knowledge). Thanks, — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 06:59, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@Godsy: intitle:/.../ makes a regex search on .... Parentheses are indeed meta characters with special meaning in regex so you have to escape them by placing a backslash in front like intitle:/\(academic\)/ if you want to search for the literal characters instead of applying the special meaning. Without going into details about the special meaning, it has no effect in intitle:/(academic)/ so it becomes the same search as intitle:/academic/. intitle:(academic) is not surrounded by slashes so it's not a regex search but a normal search. Many special characters including parentheses are ignored in normal searches so it's the same search as intitle:academic. If you make insource searches instead of intitle then note that regex is expensive by itself and may time out or use excessive server resources so it's best to combine it with a non-regex search like insource:academic insource:/\(academic\)/. intitle:academic intitle:/\(academic\)/ is also possible but it matters less here. PrimeHunter (talk)

Splice

Does the page Splice (ice cream) classify as unreferenced? I noticed that there are very little references for the page's length, (most flavour names and release date are unreferenced). So is it unreferenced? Bells899 (talk) 10:17, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@Bells899 Well, it has references but by modern standards has fewer than are needed for verification and to confirm notabilty. This seems to have been recognised since 2009. If you can help by improving the article, please be bold and do so. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:26, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Search within article

I understand how to use the Search Box to find an article but, having found an article, I don't know how to search within an article. Some articles are quite lengthy and although contents may guide one to the desired information, that doesn't always help. For a trivial example - I was trying to find out if the new Supergirl film was in 3D? If I could have searched on 3D within Supergirl (2026 film), that would have saved me having to read the entire article to find out there is no mention of it. I often run into a similar problem. How can I search within an article? ~2026-36615-10 (talk) 06:09, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @~2026-36615-10, and welcome to the Help Desk! There's no way to search within a page itself, but most web browsers have a built in "find in this page" function that should work. If you're on a laptop/pc, then pressing Ctrl F will bring it up. If on mobile, it's usually found in the browser settings. In solidarity, nil ^nz 06:15, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Technically a search of "query prefix:fullpagename" (i.e. something like "3d prefix:Supergirl (2026 film)") can get you close in the sense of searching a specific page (or handful of pages that have the same start of title, so something like "3d prefix:Supergirl" would capture other pages because multiple pages start with that)... but it's more trouble than it's probably worth compared to just using the find function that comes with your browser. - Purplewowies (talk) 06:49, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-36615-10 One possibility is to use "edit source" before doing Ctrl F. Unlike the standard browser-based search which only looks at the article text as rendered, the Wiki software now opens a search-and-replace dialogue and finds all instances of the search string (case insensitive). If you do that, you'll find two instances of "3D" in that article's source code which are within URL. I dislike this behaviour as I would prefer the software not to hijack the Ctrl F shortcut, but that's how it now works... Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:30, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

btrfs logo

I realised the Btrfs article is missing the logo ( https://archive.kernel.org/oldwiki/btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/File:Btrfs_logo.svg.html ). I can not upload it to commons, as it is neither CC nor PD licensed. However, as I am the original designer of the logo, i can grant wikipedia the rights to use it. What is the proper procedure for this?

On the kernel wiki page, 17 years ago, I linked the original SVG file on my personal server, located at http://lomm.es/pub/misc/btrfs_logo.svg which is still there - should i perhaps upload a http://lomm.es/pub/misc/btrfs_logo.txt file with some licensing text to prove i am the actual author? Or is there another more elegant way? Cheers, Lommes (talk) 07:27, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Lommes. Given that you seem to be asking about a copyrighted logo, you can, if you want, upload the logo to Commons using one of the licenses described in c:COM:L and c:COM:CC as long as you're the sole copyright holder of the logo, and then send a c:COM:CONSENT email or use the c:COM:RELGEN to provide verification of you're copyright holder status. However, before you do this, you might want to take a look at c:COM:LJ, c:COM:REUSE and c:COM:ENFORCE for reference.

Another option would be to upload the logo locally to English Wikipedia as non-free content; you can do this using the WP:UPLOAD wizard. Non-free content use is subject to Wikipedia's non-free content use policy; so, there are more restrictions placed on it than a file uploaded to Commons, but there should be no problem using the logo in the main infobox of the Btrfs article. One thing to remember, though, is that regardless of where and how you upload the file, Wikipedia or Commons will just be hosting the file and won't be able to stop someone from downloading the file and using it in some way that you might not want. In other words, you're not transfering the copyright of the logo to Wikipedia or any other third-party per se; so, you'll be responsible for enforcing your copyright of the logo. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:28, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@Marchjuly thank you very much for your answer. I can not possibly release the logo under a free and permissive license to everyone, as this would violate my commitments to the btrfs community, back when i created the logo. I could give Wikimedia/Wikipedia a narrow license (e.g. "I hereby grant all Wikimedia projects a non-exclusive, non-sublicensable, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free license...") for the purposes of this encyclopedia and its sister project. Is this possible?

If not, I will upload it as non-free content, as per your description. I am aware that potential copyright violations are my problem, not yours. Cheers, Lommes (talk) 09:18, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Commons doesn't accept any restrictions such as "no derivatives" or "non-commercial only", so your only option will be the local non-free approach. WP:LOGO has some details. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:10, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull - Thank you very much for your answer. Accordingly, I have uploaded the logo to File:Btrfs logo wikipedia.svg - I hope it is okay as is. I guess, but am not completely sure, the WP:COI rules don't apply here, as I am not adding any interpretation or commentary or opinion or point of view or similar to the article, merely the logo (of which I am the author/designer). Beyond creating the logo, I have no further affiliation with the btrfs project. Lommes (talk) 12:54, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I was going to add your logo to the infobox of Btrfs for you but the template {{infobox file system}} used in that article doesn't have an image or a logo field. So someone more expert than me will have to do it! Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:11, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull - I have now added it as an image below the infobox. Do you know where i can ask regarding the infobox image? Template:Infobox_OS has a logo option. Cheers, Lommes (talk) 13:38, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@Lommes You can ask on the Talk Page of the template, maybe WP:PINGing editors who originally created it. Or wait for User:PrimeHunter who is often around this Help desk and is an expert on that sort of thing. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:43, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@Lommes: {{Infobox file system}} has no image parameter. I checked the source code which sometimes reveals undocumented parameters. There is also no infobox-wide parameter intended for other purposes which can be hijacked to display a logo. I have placed the logo in a separate infobox above the normal infobox so it looks more similar to our normal layout. It's not ideal but I think it's better than before. I don't know how common it is to have a suitable image for a file system but it has never been requested on Template talk:Infobox file system and I'm not going to add a parameter for one article. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:18, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter Thank you very much! Lommes (talk) 15:31, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Cursor (company)

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Modifications organiques (talk) 13:52, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@Modifications organiques I don't see any current ref errors in that article, so I assume you fixed it yourself. The citation templates don't like non-surname surnames like "Bureau" as |last=. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:08, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Modifications organiques. The problem is that you have given |last1=Bureau |first1=The Hindu, and the software recognises that those are not the names of a person.

If there isn't a named author, then don't try to specify the author. ColinFine (talk) 17:09, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Thanks for the help. But I removed the generic names Modifications organiques (talk) 17:13, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello again, @Modifications organiques.

In my view there's entirely too much WP:CORPTRIV in this article.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source. ColinFine (talk) 19:24, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Review assistance requested for Draft:Milet Mihemed

Hello,

I would like to request a review for "Draft:Milet Mihemed". The draft has been properly formatted and submitted via the Articles for Creation (AfC) process, and it is currently waiting in the queue.

The article strictly adheres to Wikipedia's encyclopedic tone and avoids any promotional language or puffery. It focuses objectively on the author's published works and literary career, backed by highly reliable, verifiable, and international authority records, including:

• The Library of Congress (LOC)
• The Virtual International Authority File (VIAF)
• WorldCat global library database
• Academic library holdings (such as UC Berkeley's Doe Library)

Since the draft is fully prepared, neutral, and meets all Wikipedia notability guidelines for authors, I would highly appreciate it if an experienced editor or reviewer could take a look and assist in moving it from the draft space to the main article space.

Thank you very much for your time and help. ~2026-36657-40 (talk) 11:57, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this has enough sourcing to meet WP:BIO. Some of the sources, such as the Amazon page, are not reliable secondary sources. What is needed is secondary sourcing that discusses the subject in some detail, rather than simply listing or mentioning him.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:10, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

(e/c) You submitted your draft for review only a week ago. It will be reviewed in due course. However it will certainly be declined as none of your sources establishes that the subject is notable. You will need to find multiple sources that provide significant coverage of this person. Routine library catalogue entries will not suffice. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:18, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, Ianmacm and Shantavira, for pointing this out. I appreciate your guidance on the need for secondary, independent coverage to establish regional notability under WP:BIO.

To fulfill this requirement, the subject's career and books have been covered in significant detail by independent cultural and news organizations in the region. Since these are in Kurdish, they are well-documented on the Kurdish Wikipedia language editions, drawing from reliable regional documentation and literary festivals:

* Kurmanji Kurdish edition: https://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milet_Mihemed

* Sorani Kurdish edition: https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%84%D9%84%DB%95%D8%AA_%D9%85%D8%AD%DB%95%D9%85%D9%85%DB%95%D8%AF

* Wikidata: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q123248063

These articles include independent secondary sources that provide substantial biographical and literary coverage rather than simple catalog entries. Given that Kurdish contemporary literature has minimal coverage in Western secondary media, these non-English institutional and journalistic references represent the primary reliable secondary sources available for establishing notability. I will ensure these are better integrated into the draft references as well. Thank you! Kurd26 (talk) 13:19, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Kurd26.

There is no point in telling us about other-language Wikipedia examples, as each Wikipedia has its own policies and procedures, and the English Wikipedia is said to be one of the strictest about referencing.

Non-English sources (and offline sources) may be cited: what matters is whether they meet all the criteria in WP:42. "Substantial biographical and literary coverage" does not help if it is ultimately written by the subject, or by people associated with the subject.

If your draft does cite non-English sources, this may make it take longer to get reviewed, as it will be more work for a reviewer (unless they speak Kurdish). You can help by making sure your citations include a translation of the title of the source, and ideally a translation of the text that verifies the relelvant information in the article: see WP:NONENG. ColinFine (talk) 17:05, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Please don't post this in multiple places; it's already been discussed at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Is Galawêj Festival a "major award" for WP:ANYBIO #1?. Also, the draft has received a review; Athanelar has rejected it. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 01:24, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Edit

How to start editing Froyowhipper (talk) 14:55, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's the best option, but it's one option: Help:Introduction to editing with Wiki Markup/1. DonIago (talk) 15:12, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

I'd recommend Wikipedia:Adventure as another good overview. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 01:26, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

M. Carol March

born 3/5/1932. Is Carol Coon March aka Biskup alive? ~2026-36826-09 (talk) 22:31, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi, we don't seem to have a page on this person within the English Wikipedia. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 05:23, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

This is not a general help desk for the entire internet, sorry. 331dot (talk) 11:21, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Auto confirmed

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What can I do when I reach autoconfirmed? Michael Khachatrian (talk) 21:38, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed users can edit semi-protected pages, as well as creating new pages and moving pages. More information here. {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs|in solidarity}} 22:00, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

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Interwiki translation and CC license

I noticed that the Uzbek Wikipedia article Ovoz yozuviga boʻlgan mualliflik huquqi is a translation of an English Wikipedia article that I wrote, Sound recording copyright, but the original English article is not credited anywhere. The Uzbek page was created on 27 May 2026, so it is currently within the 30-day window during which a license violation can be cured. I don't speak Uzbek and haven't contributed to Uzbek Wikipedia at all.

How can I address this issue? I've drafted a message in English to post on the user's talk page (but haven't posted it yet), aiming to politely educate them about the CC license's attribution requirements. But should I also get an admin on Uzbek Wikipedia involved (especially if the user has submitted a lot of translations in this manner)? Qzekrom (she/her • talk) 16:09, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

See WP:RIA. The only thing which really needs to be done is to supply the appropriate attribution. You might see if there's an Uzbek editor at the WP:EMBASSY who can help with that, or just use google translate to put the attribution in the edit history of the uzbek article yourself. Athanelar (talk) 17:13, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

 Done after somehow figuring out where the link to the enwiki article should go in the summary. CheeseAndJamSamdwich (talk) 19:45, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! Qzekrom (she/her • talk) 16:32, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

As far as I can see Wikipedia:Translation links to uz:Vikipediya:Tarjima, which does not have a section on Attribution requirements. TSventon (talk) 16:45, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

That's not good. Could be indicative of a systemic issue that the uzwiki admins should be aware of - editors there may be unaware that they are violating copyright when they copy from enwiki articles without attribution (ironically, this happened with an article about copyright). Qzekrom (she/her • talk) 18:03, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Articles not showing up on search engines

Articles I've written aren't showing up as a result on Google months after being published-- the only one that does so far is my article on achievement hunting, which also happens to be the only article I've submitted to AfC. This surprised me since Wikipedia articles are usually one of the first things to show up when looking up something. Is the fact I'm not submitting the articles to AfC correlated to them not showing up on Google? NP (talk) 15:35, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Articles can only be indexed by search engines if they have been marked as reviewed by a New Pages Patroller, or 90 days have passed. 331dot (talk) 15:52, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

NPP has a severe backlog at the moment, so it's likely to be the latter that allows indexing. 331dot (talk) 15:53, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Oh okay, that makes sense. Thank you for letting me know NP (talk) 15:55, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

NP2026 If you submit an article to AfC the reviewer may do the NPP check at the same time. TSventon (talk) 16:01, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

That would probably explain why the article I submitted to AfC was indexed. Thanks for letting me know, I don't know much about how NPP works. NP (talk) 16:08, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

You can go to Special:NewPagesFeed to check for any progress. You select "Set filters" enter your username then select "Set filters" again at the bottom of the screen. TSventon (talk) 16:18, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

@NP2026: The other articles at https://xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/NP2026#0 aren't 90 days yet so they still have noindex but note that Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing#Indexing of articles ("mainspace") says: "After indexing is allowed, some external search engines like Google may discover this quickly if any edit (except an unlogged null edit) is made to the page. Otherwise it may take a long time." PrimeHunter (talk) 22:23, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

the page advertising

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Hello, I am editing the North West article and noticed that it currently carries the notice stating that the article has an advertising or promotional tone. We would like to understand which specific parts of the article are considered promotional. The article has been revised to remove marketing language and to present the company's history, activities, and projects in a neutral and encyclopedic manner. Could you please advise whether the tag can be removed, or indicate which sections still require improvement to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view and content guidelines? Thank you for your time and assistance.North West — Vikipediya Northwest2007 (talk) 09:27, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

This account currently has no edits other than this post, so I'm not sure which article you are referencing.

Your account needs to represent you, the operator of the account, not what I assume is your company. Accounts are strictly single person use only. Please request a username change immediately via Special:GlobalRenameRequest. You will also need to comply with the paid editing policy. 331dot (talk) 09:31, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

You have edited another language Wikipedia- each language Wikipedia is a separate project, you will need to ask your question there, because each Wikipedia has its own policies as to what is acceptable. 331dot (talk) 09:32, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Northwest2007. In answer to your question: it is often not an issue of specific words or phrases, but the tone of much of the article.

Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.

If an article is, or reads as if it is, what the subject wants people to know about them, then it is promotional. The article should tell what people unconnected with the subject have published about it - good and bad - not what the subject wants people to know. ColinFine (talk) 09:42, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

I've soft-blocked as an obvious user name violation Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:50, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Just for full context, this user's edits appear to have been to Azerbaijani Wikipedia, not here (their three edits there are 60% of the page history (though the net change after those edits was just adding blue links to cities), and it does have a promo tag there, added as part of the second edit after its creation by a TA over there): az:North West - Purplewowies (talk) 06:59, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

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