Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Life Is...
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The result was withdrawn by nominator. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:49, 29 March 2023 (UTC) (non-admin closure)
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Couldn't find a source on the charting, although those websites have always confused me so maybe someone else can. If that can be found, this is more promising, though I also couldn't find any other reliable coverage so it's probably still not notable even then. Redirect to Ken Hirai if not kept. See related AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Missin' You (It Will Break My Heart). QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:27, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Japan. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:27, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Previous AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LIFE is... QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - Ken Hirai discography seems to suggest it was a number one album in Japan. And possible platinum there too? If true, this album almost certainly received the coverage to be considered notable. It's likely just locked away in Japanese hard copy sources, as it was a 2003 release before the internet age. Sergecross73 msg me 19:38, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Likely the case, yeah, but we can't just leave an article up with no reliable coverage on the assumption that it exists somewhere, right? On the bright side, the discog page did lead me to a source for the charting here which I believe is reliable. The cert source was annoying to navigate but does confirm. At least we've got that much nailed down now. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:48, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- If it's a known notable album like this, I'd prefer keeping it as a stub with the sales/charting/tracklist info and tag it for improvement/expansion, over deletion/merging. Sergecross73 msg me 16:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Y'know what, that's fair enough. The charting and cert are strong enough that it could probably get kept on those alone, and since we have sources confirming them now (which I will add momentarily), I don't see why I shouldn't withdraw this. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:54, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, I appreciate it. Sergecross73 msg me 20:41, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Y'know what, that's fair enough. The charting and cert are strong enough that it could probably get kept on those alone, and since we have sources confirming them now (which I will add momentarily), I don't see why I shouldn't withdraw this. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:54, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- If it's a known notable album like this, I'd prefer keeping it as a stub with the sales/charting/tracklist info and tag it for improvement/expansion, over deletion/merging. Sergecross73 msg me 16:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Likely the case, yeah, but we can't just leave an article up with no reliable coverage on the assumption that it exists somewhere, right? On the bright side, the discog page did lead me to a source for the charting here which I believe is reliable. The cert source was annoying to navigate but does confirm. At least we've got that much nailed down now. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:48, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per the Oricon chart linked above. Went to #1 in Japan and stayed on the chart for 89 weeks. Dekimasuよ! 04:03, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - it topped a major national albums chart. Strip it down to stub status if you must, but don't delete an article for an album of this caliber. Sergecross73 msg me 16:03, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, top artist and album topped chart. Fulmard (talk) 18:52, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Absolutely notable and noteworthy, having topped a chart and selling close to a million copies in Japan. I would imagine most coverage is in Japanese. Unless the nominator knows Japanese (yes, even with a title in English), Japanese-language sources are not easy to find through Google searches for 20-year-old albums. I know from experience. Ss112 00:39, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm also well aware of the trouble with finding foreign-language sources on Google which is why I don't ever search just there. In this case, even with an expanded search, I didn't find much. But it matters not as this is getting kept either way (and I've already withdrawn above). QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:33, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
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