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Latest comment: 10 months ago by Premeditated Chaos in topic Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here.No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Premeditated Chaos talk 13:24, 19 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that boxer Zaw Latt was "very happy" with the food in the Olympic Village at the start of the Games, and later complained about the lack of curry?
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Created by History6042 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

History6042😊 (Contact me) 16:14, 30 July 2025 (UTC).Reply

  • I'm not too convinced that this hook is particularly interesting per WP:DYKINT, as it's essentially someone expressing a vague opinion on their food tastes. The source for him being "very happy" with the food seems to attribute this opinion to the "chef de mission" (i.e. the person in charge of the delegation and only English-speaking person in the group), rather than the subject himself (so is it reliable?). It is also possible for someone to say they're happy with something, but to still miss something else (as in, it's not "unusual"). Is there anything which could be used as an ALT? Bungle (talkcontribs) 19:52, 4 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I will check for another hook. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:13, 4 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
What about ALT1: ... that Olympian boxer Zaw Latt nearly knocked out his opponent in the first round, but didn’t win a single judge’s vote? Reference: . @Bungle:, History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:22, 4 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I actually thought the curry hook was kind of funny, but I was not sure if it would meet BLP. I would have suggested though focusing just on the curry and not the food. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:05, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Narutolovehinata5: When you actually read the source, you see both statements are expressed through an interpreter so we can't absolutely guarantee it's what the subject said or meant. It amounted to him saying he liked the food but missed his curry, and the hook also risked edging into WP:SYNTH by saying he "complained" about it.
@History6042: I have read what the source said and honestly, I feel it would have been a nicer DYK hook for the other competitor, as he came back from a bad start to then win emphatically. ALT1 is slightly better, and if it's the best that can be found from the material, maybe..
ALT2: "...that Olympian boxer Zaw Latt failed to win a single judge's vote despite nearly knocking his competitor out in the first round?", which has more emphasis on the lack of any votes? Bungle (talkcontribs) 07:24, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I would be fine with this be alt2. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:56, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I have added some sections as it was rather challenging to follow the flow of the prose and determine correct use (and relevance) of inline citations. I made only minor prose amendments, but would appreciate if you could double check the inline citations match correctly and maybe just check for any obvious typos. I'll probably take the review on (unless someone else jumps in). It's nice to see development on another LUGSTUB too, so well done for that! Bungle (talkcontribs) 17:18, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Seems all good, @Bungle:, I just added a few citations. History6042😊 (Contact me) 17:39, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'll do a more thorough review within the next 24hrs, thanks. Bungle (talkcontribs) 06:12, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Bungle (talkcontribs) 20:00, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@History6042: Regarding the line "He qualified because of his win at the South East Asian Games" - I can't easily see cited. Prior to my minor restructure, it was hidden among the prose and wasn't clearly cited. Looks a little WP:OR unless it's clearly stated. I did a little copyedit to remove some unnecessary bloat. Also, the article says "All judges favored Latt and all five favored Ossai", which seems quite contradictory. I also don't think we need all the bloat of individual scores - overall is sufficient. Bungle (talkcontribs) 20:00, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Bungle:, all  Done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:17, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'll go with that. I don't know if it was worth explicitly stating (in the hook) that the event took place during the Olympics itself or if that's just bloating too much, but will see what a promoter thinks. It's been tidied up a bit anyway. Bungle (talkcontribs) 08:32, 9 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Reviewing for promotion and I think it does need a reference to the fact that he was competing at an Olympics. How's this? ALT1a: ... that in the 1984 Summer Olympics, boxer Zaw Latt nearly knocked out his opponent in the first round, but didn’t win a single judge’s vote? Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:00, 7 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
I would be fine with this hook, thank you. History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
ALT1a approved. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:39, 8 September 2025 (UTC)Reply