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Latest comment: 9 months ago by 80.233.71.193 in topic Copy of unattributed source?

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Problem with listing ""Text and Controversy from Wyclif to Bale: Essays in Honour of Anne Hudson". English Historical Review, 2007, vol CXXII" as a source: This article is only a review of the article collection in Honor of Anne Hudson. Someone needs to consult the article on Walter Brut in this collection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.48.112.158 (talk) 16:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Heresy trial?

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So was he convicted or acquitted? 178.78.82.146 (talk) 19:29, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Copy of unattributed source?

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The following passage, comprising the bulk of this article, is surely a verbatim copy of another text -- but not enclosed in quotes, in spite of the glaring archaisms:

- It seems then that this Walter Brute, by nation a Briton or Welsh-man, who was "a layman and learned, and brought up in the University of Oxford, being there a graduate", was accused of saying, among sundry other things, that "the Pope is Antichrist, and a seducer of the people, and utterly against the law and life of Christ". Being called to answer, he put in first certain more brief "exhibits": then "another declaration of the same matter after a more ample tractation"; ex-plaining and setting forth from Scripture the grounds of his opinion. In either case his defense was grounded very mainly on the Revelation. For he at once bases his justification on the fact, as demonstrable, of the Pope answering alike to the chief of the false Christs prophesied of by Christ, as to come in his name; to the Man of Sin prophesied of by St. Paul: the city of Papal Rome answering also similarly to the Apocalyptic Babylon.

Someone with source access should properly paraphrase. Al Begamut (talk) 01:03, 27 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Al Begamut Either that, or indent the whole section to indicate more clearly that it is, in fact, a quotation. OTOH I like your paraphrasing idea better.
Also it does make up more than half of the article as you say, containing weasel words as well as archaisms. Something needs to be done but I'm not the right person for the job. Thanks for drawing attention to it.80.233.71.193 (talk) 23:32, 25 October 2025 (UTC)Reply