Talk:Symfony

Neutrality

The page describes it as easy, and uses a similar self-promoting tone all the way through.

It also speaks of the user as "You" rather than the user or end user or a similar term.

Shouldn't it follow a neutral point of view? Prophile 15:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. However, given the nature of the app it's more likely to be fanboyism than good old-fashioned advertising. Probably better with a cleanup tag because the advocacy is due to enthusiasm. Chris Cunningham 21:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I've tried to make it less embarrassing. Still massive cleanup and expansion required of course. Chris Cunningham 21:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I happen to know that the author of the page was the author of the software. The text was very similar to that of the homepage... good job with the cleanup but still needs work. Prophile 20:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

This entire article is marketing drivel. I have worked on a project utilzing Symfony for some time now, and it is just a framework, with its own advantages and quirks, like any other. But this article comes off like it is a god send. Some much needed rewriting should be applied to every section. Kingmundi (talk) 20:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Being the new symfony community manager, I would be interested in working with you guys to create a more objective version of this article more reflecting what the framework is without only advertising its benefits. Marking this article for deletion does not seem the best solution in my humble opinion, since symfony is the #2 PHP5 MVC-based framework at this point, so it would leave a big gap in the Wikipedia information. Stefan Koopmanschap —Preceding undated comment added 23:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC).

Agile Principles

DRY and KISS are "agile principles?" They were taught to me in CS 101 during the 90's, long before "agile programming" existed. They are basic programming concepts. And, common sense... More of a rant than anything else.

I'm sorry, but symfony isn't really MVC

It doesn't follow the MVC rules in 100%. Read here - http://pookey.co.uk/blog/archives/43-phplondon08-the-crazy-guy-mail.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.29.214.231 (talk) 13:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Confusing language

I deleted a section that basically stated an opcode cache could be replaced on shared hosts using Symfony's internal caching. The internal caching is like any other userland caching mechanism - it has nothing to do with opcodes. An opcode cache just makes PHP faster than without one - internal caching would be used with/without the opcode cache either way so it's not a direct replacement.

The statement as is was misleading and wrong. Article really needs a good objective cleanup - the number of slanted statements is reprehensible.168.168.33.250 (talk) 10:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Symfony 1 and Symfony 2

Symfony 1 and Symfony 2 is two different frameworks. I think that should be divide "Symfony" article for "Symfony 1 " and "Symfony 2" articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denys281 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Development Roadmap

What is the purpose of this section? Does it refer to Symfony2 at all or is it left over from old symfony1.x? There are no dates or releases to go with this. There are no sources. Seems like this section should be deleted Mattsnowboard (talk) 01:38, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

What about the name?

Does anybody know why it's called "symfony" with an f instead of ph? Is it from another language, a pun of some kind, or for no particular reason? If that is known, it would be interesting to have it mentioned in the article. Teo8976 (talk) 11:43, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

It's because at first the name of the framework was "Sensio Framework", hence the "sf" initials. When it was open sourced, they wanted to keep the "sf" part, so they named it "symfony" Pierstoval (talk) 16:55, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Update "Sponsors" section to include the Symfony community

I work for SensioLabs, which sponsors the Symfony project, so I have a conflict of interest regarding this article.

I would like to suggest a small update to the "Sponsors" section. The current section only mentions SensioLabs as the project's sponsor and does not mention the open-source community that develops Symfony.

I suggest renaming the section from:

== Sponsors ==

to:

== Community and sponsorship ==

and replacing the first sentence:

"Symfony is sponsored by SensioLabs, a French software developer and professional services provider."

with:

"Symfony is developed as an open-source project by a community of contributors and is sponsored by SensioLabs, a French software developer and professional services provider."

Symfony maintains a public database of project contributors: https://symfony.com/contributors

The contributor database currently lists more than 4,500 code contributors. I have deliberately not included that number in the proposed article text because it changes over time and because the source is maintained by Symfony itself.

I am proposing this change here rather than editing the article directly because of my affiliation with SensioLabs.

Javier.eguiluz (talk) 10:23, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Response: 2026-10-01

Not done for now: We already say that Symfony is open source. We don't have any sources here describing the nature of its development community. For all I know all those contributors are SensioLabs employees (I'd be surprised, but you see what I mean?). If we have a secondary source about the Symfony contributor community then we can include this. Packrat3860 (talk) 00:31, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

Update outdated release information

I work for SensioLabs, which sponsors the Symfony project, so I have a conflict of interest regarding this article.

The Releases section contains outdated information. It currently says:

"The latest stable release is version 7.3 and current LTS release is version 6.4."

According to the current Symfony releases page, Symfony 8.1 is now the stable release and Symfony 7.4 is the current LTS release:

https://symfony.com/releases

I suggest changing the sentence to:

The latest stable release is version 8.1 and the current LTS release is version 7.4.

The releases table also still describes Symfony 8.1 as:

Under development. Scheduled release date May 2026

Symfony 8.1 was released in May 2026 and is currently maintained:

https://symfony.com/releases/8.1

I suggest removing that note from the 8.1 row.

~~~~ Javier.eguiluz (talk) 08:40, 1 October 2026 (UTC)