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Latest comment: 7 months ago by GuesanLoyalist in topic Country vs government

Fair use rationale for Image:Provisional government.jpg

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Image:Provisional government.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot (talk) 05:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

fates of the ministers

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I deleted the section because it was unsourced and largely misleading coatrack (see edit comment). It can be reinstated if accurate info can be provided: like this Guccisamsclub (talk) 13:08, 26 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

October revolution

I reversed the edit because I think this needs to have an authority cited The Actual article on the October Revolution agrees with the earlier version and I think that has full citing of references. Spinney Hill (talk) 11:16, 26 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Dates are incorrect

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This statement: "On 25–26 October Red Guard forces under the leadership of Bolshevik commanders launched their final attack on the ineffectual Provisional Government."

Is incorrect. Technically the revolution "began" on the morning of October 24 (November 6 N.S.), with the seizure of the Rabochy Put printing press by Provisional Government forces. Later that day Kerensky ordered the bridges in Petrograd to be raised, and the Military Revolutionary Committee began taking over the city's key institutions.

If you want to be pedantic, you can say that the revolution stretched until the early morning (2AM) of October 26 (November 8 N.S.) with the shelling of the Winter Palace and the subsequent surrender of the government ministers. But at the very least the dates should be changed to October 24-26.

All of this is taken from multiple reputable sources, including:

Rabinowitch, Alexander (2004). The Bolsheviks Come to Power: The Revolution of 1917 in Petrograd. Pluto Press.\

Bard College: Experimental Humanities and Eurasian Studies. "From Empire To Republic: October 24 – November 1, 1917". https://projects.eh.bard.edu/1917/oct-maps.html  Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakem1000 (talkcontribs) 05:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Russian Provincial Assembly?

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we have two red links to Russian Provincial Assembly. Anyone knows what is it? Estopedist1 (talk) 16:01, 2 February 2023 (UTC) Where? Do you mean provisional? or Regional parliaments of Russia Taksen (talk) 04:05, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

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The link for "Thatcher, Ian D. "Post-Soviet Russian Historians and the Russian Provisional Government of 1917". ..." is marked as "dead" and next to it there is "Template:Cbignore". I was unsure whether this template means that the mention "dead link" and the template itself should not be removed. The link is not dead. Maybe more experienced Wikipedians will know whether the template should be removed. Ictinos4 (talk) 10:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Country vs government

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This article is specifically about the government, not the country - the use of the template describing the government is appropriate, the one describing the country should be omitted. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

First of all, it IS describing the country, just before the republic was proclaimed. Second, you can't just delete half of the page without reaching a consensus. ErickTheMerrick (talk) 15:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
It seems pretty clear that the topic of the page is the government; what leads you to believe otherwise? Nikkimaria (talk) 05:54, 3 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
It is the provisional government of the Russian Empire (before it was confirmed as a republic and there were plans to have a constitutional monarchy) and the Russian Republic. Mellk (talk) 05:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, exactly this. So I think it should still have the info Nikkimaria deleted. ErickTheMerrick (talk) 06:42, 3 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
If the article is about the government, then I do not see why we need the country infobox when the country articles already exist. The information is included there anyway. Mellk (talk) 06:55, 3 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
You said that it was a different government then the Republic, it should have an country infobox because it was a separate form of government in the country. ErickTheMerrick (talk) 17:22, 3 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
I said it was the government of both the Empire and the Republic. Mellk (talk) 04:09, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
It should still have a country infobox ErickTheMerrick (talk) 14:52, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
No, it shouldn't, as it isn't a country. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
It was though? It was in between the Russian Empire and Republic, was it not? ErickTheMerrick (talk) 14:48, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hundred Years of the Russian Revolution: Its Legacies in Perspective says: "The Russian Empire existed from October 22, 1721 to August 31, 1917. In accordance with the decree 'From the Provisional Government', Russia officially became a republic on September 1, 1917." (p. 200). Mellk (talk) 15:16, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps it should be noted on government infobox for the russian empire ErickTheMerrick (talk) 08:21, 7 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think that the country Infobox should be kept in the government article, the government infobox doesn't provide much information then compared to the combined usage of said government infobox along with the country Infobox. Plus, the usage of a country Infobox wouldn't necessily make something like a country. GuesanLoyalist (talk) 21:00, 8 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
The country template is intended for description of a country, while the government template is intended to describe a government. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:33, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Some important information are still left out since the government infobox is less detailed and explicit then the country infobox. GuesanLoyalist (talk) 01:15, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
The important information about the article topic is covered. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:17, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
There are some other criticism that I do have with this type of edit that you're recently doing, but I'll try to express it politely.
I have also been seeing other people being critical of similar edits of yours, so I was wondering on if there could be a more edit-based consensus around governments having country infoboxes. An example would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Beiyang_government#Scope
I wouldn't like for an argument to start over, so perhaps we should get more people to form a proper consensus about this
GuesanLoyalist (talk) 01:48, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply