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Spanish army
[edit]The association that the article attempts to make between the Spanish army and the "far right", is defamatory.
They try to mix things up and show an image of soldiers carrying out their activities with Francoist flags, which is done with malicious intent, in addition to talking about the Legion, which is a unit that has little to do with the Reconquista, an event that took place 400 years before its creation. Grancapitan1 (talk) 19:44, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Insofar the passage
Día de la Toma de Granada, the annual commemoration of the surrender of Sultan Boabdil in Granada on 2 January acquired a markedly nationalistic undertone during the early years of the Francoist regime and, since the death of the dictator Francisco Franco in 1975, it has served as glue for extreme right groups by facilitating their open-air physical gatherings and providing them with an occasion which they can use to explicitly state their political demands
can be enhanced by an illustration, the concerned image and the caption do the job. Without even considering the very contemporary nature of the construct "Reconquista", your last claim is irrelevant and intellectually insulting insofar the image illustrates a subsection "far right motif" in the "legacy" subsection, and it is clearly not illustrating something that happened 400 years ago. I however can agree that, unlike the image, the "Boyfriend of Death" mention does not seem to be warranted in the section by the context provided by the source, even if the far right links of that and many other Spanish Armed Forces units is difficult to deny.--Asqueladd (talk) 20:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)- The Spanish armed forces are exemplary in their defense of democracy, and the units that comprise them are too; otherwise, Spain would not be a democracy, In which case it's not a topic that I think would interest someone who wants to know about the Reconquista very much.
- And as I said before, in the image you can see that there is a link between them by placing a soldier surrounded by pre-constitutional flags Grancapitan1 (talk) 20:27, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- The caption adequatedly indicates that the parade is attended by far-right sympathizers, as the Fascist flags indicate. It does not comment on the ideology of the parading elements. We are here:
Every year the city celebrates the day of the Toma, a public commemoration organised by the municipal corporation with the participation of military and ecclesiastical elements. Almost since the beginning of democracy, this celebration has been marked by a strong controversy between progressive sectors, who reject the public commemoration of an act of conquest and violence, and the more traditionalist, conservative and ultra-right-wing groups, enthusiastic defenders of the fiesta, attached to the vision of the past that is linked to the notion of the Reconquista as the origin of Spain
García Sanjuan p.74..--Asqueladd (talk) 20:50, 8 November 2025 (UTC)- It is a comprehensive article, although we cannot ignore the fact that the professor who wrote it has a certain ideology, Beyond this, I still maintain that the capture of Granada and its celebration should not appear in an article about the Reconquista; there is another one about the capture of Granada where it would be more appropriate. Grancapitan1 (talk) 21:16, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, so according to you, the addition of celebrations of something that you consider to be "Reconquista" and that those who celebrate it also consider to be "Reconquista", (plus the scholar sources who place the understanding of those celebrations under the context of the modern development and reinvigoration of the construct "Reconquista") should not be mentioned in the article about the so-called "Reconquista" because reasons. Well, instead of moving goalposts, you could have started there with that epistemological dead end and not wasted other editors' time.--Asqueladd (talk) 08:54, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- I can´t believe how you claim about the "professor´s ideology" meanwhile your username is about one of the most important military related to the taking of Granada. Besides that, they already told you the taking of Granada is plenty used as the final step of the Reconquista, at least for its modern uses (even if historically isn´t correct). DreAnt (talk) 00:33, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- Although it is true that Gonzalo Fernández de Córdoba took part in the conquest of Granada—an episode often seen as marking the end of the Reconquista—his role in that campaign is not what he is most recognized for. Instead, he is best known for his campaigns in Naples and for his innovations in early modern warfare, which laid the foundations for one of the most important infantry formations in history and the finest of its time (the Spanish tercios).
- In any case, the figure of El Gran Capitán, and the fact that my username refers to him, does not invalidate my arguments or make me less impartial. He is one of the greatest generals in Spanish history, and his influence on the Spanish army is significant. He is not an ideologized figure, so admiring him does not align you with any particular political ideology —beyond simply having an interest in history,I always try to be neutral.Grancapitan1 (talk) 00:28, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- It is a comprehensive article, although we cannot ignore the fact that the professor who wrote it has a certain ideology, Beyond this, I still maintain that the capture of Granada and its celebration should not appear in an article about the Reconquista; there is another one about the capture of Granada where it would be more appropriate. Grancapitan1 (talk) 21:16, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- The caption adequatedly indicates that the parade is attended by far-right sympathizers, as the Fascist flags indicate. It does not comment on the ideology of the parading elements. We are here:
1380
[edit]What happened - and why - in 1380?
What was the main competition advantages of the winners during those years?
The article tells [refers to the Hanseatic League] "Mercenaries were an important factor, as many kings did not have enough soldiers available. Norsemen, Flemish..." Kartasto (talk) 09:15, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
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