Talk:Pratt knot
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Pratt NOT the originator.
[edit]According to Pratt his "invention" of this tie was 1959 or 1956.
HOWEVER...this was the knot my father taught me, and he used his entire life. He said he learned it from working at a men's shop part time as a senior in high school in the summer of 1953. As he has just passed away, we were going through his things and his JUNIOR picture in High School shows a big (probably half-Windsor) tie knot, but his senior picture in 1953-54 (not sure when it was taken) clearly shows this knot.
My father, Bob Lieb, never claimed to have invented the knot, but clearly he has a stronger claim than Shelby *or* Pratt as a matter of prior art. This tie should justifiably be called the "Bob Knot". (or the Lieb Knot, which probably doesn't have the same ring to it). Or, maybe more accurately, the Kenyon knot as that was the location of the Men's Store my dad worked at - THAT (unknown?) proprietor either invented it or learned it from someone.
HS Picture(s) certainly available as proof. Styopa (talk) 22:12, 19 January 2026 (UTC)