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Latest comment: 7 days ago by AirshipJungleman29 in topic Adding a History section (revised draft)

Little about security and privacy.

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Sales pitch with little about security and privacy. 99.27.91.53 (talk) 18:56, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Adding a History section

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Hello, I'm a representative of Early Warning Services, Paze's parent company. To build out this page a bit, I'd like to suggest the addition of a History section. I've done some research and cobbled together a draft that I think summarizes the establishment and evolution of the service over the past few years. I invite independent editors to take a look:

I see this History section as step one of an effort to add well-sourced content to the article and reorganize it. I'm currently working on a short Service section draft that describes precisely how Paze functions. But anyway, I don't want to get too far ahead of myself! Thank you in advance to any editors who donate their time to reviewing my request. EB at EW (talk) 19:32, 29 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Note: I dont want to deny this request without a second opinion because it's not overtly promotional, and it's sourced, but some parts of it feel like its wp:PROMOTIONAL and has wp:UNDUE weight. Specifically, areas about sponsorships and advertising campaigns feel like undue weight, and the entire portion regarding NYCFC. Also, generally, promotional language such as "unveiled" and "starring".
Lastly, I'm skeptical of Digital Transactions as a source. Their media kit has this gem: Sponsored Content is a 500 word story you write. We place the story on our Web. It looks like the other stories that are being posted every day from our editorial staff. It goes on to mention a sponsored banner, but "Looks like the other stories that are being posted" isn't exactly confidence inducing.
Also, the content cited from Digital Transactions looks like regurgitated press releases. Even setting aside the publisher, the two digital transaction articles are single source company statements/interviews with little to no commentary or verification. - Otherwise (Antibacklog Aktion!) (talk?) 14:20, 30 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I fully concur with Mustbeotherwise's analysis. This request is promotional. There is no need for the article to mention all of Paze's clients or business partners, yet this request namedrops more than ten of them, which is clearly an attempt to boost Paze's profile. And great detective work looking into Digital Transactions; WP:NEWSORG warns against churnalism, and those concerns are definitely salient with what you found in that media kit. EB at EW, we appreciate your suggested edits, but I must decline this request. Altamel (talk) 03:34, 31 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
User:Mustbeotherwise and User:Altamel: Though I'm obviously disappointed that the request has been turned down, I really appreciate the specificity of the criticisms here. I've used your notes to compose a more modest version of the History, which I'm posting below in a new request. If you want to check that out, feel free! EB at EW (talk) 21:35, 31 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

Adding a History section (revised draft)

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Hello again, this a request for editors to review a History section draft for this article. If you scroll up on this Talk page, you'll see that my first draft was rejected by independent editors for being a bit too promotional and for containing some low-quality sources. I've taken that criticism into account and assembled a slimmer version of what I initially proposed. My new draft reduces mentions of Paze corporate partners, removes passages that were supported by less-than-solid sourcing, and cuts back content about Paze sponsorships and marketing efforts. I hope that the community will find it more satisfactory than my previous attempt.

Here is my draft:

Above, I've invited Mustbeotherwise and Altamel to review, but anyone else without a conflict of interest is welcome to jump in as well. Thanks! EB at EW (talk) 21:36, 31 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

Done but not as a separate "History" section per MOS:NOLEAD. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:01, 26 September 2026 (UTC)Reply