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Latest comment: 14 days ago by Altenmann in topic Formal end

Merge from NEPman

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Heavily duplicated subject. But possibly some new content. Not to say that the article NEPman is heavily confused: this is a colloquial insulting term for people who got rich due to NEP. Surely it was not applied to petty street vendors. And this can be easily covered in a single paragraph in the main article. - Altenmann >talk 16:21, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Altenmann: Given the lack of opposition to your proposal, I suggest you close this discussion and perform the merger yourself when you have the time. This proposal is five months–stale. Yue🌙 21:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
OK. --Altenmann >talk 23:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
@Altenmann: still interested in doing this? Klbrain (talk) 13:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
LAzy. --Altenmann >talk 04:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
I briefly looked thru histories and see that forking was carried out by clueless unsupervised "write-only" students in the framework of Wiki Education Foundation. --Altenmann >talk 04:43, 23 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
  checkY Merge completed Klbrain (talk) 15:54, 5 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Formal end

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I blindly copied this piece of info and then self-reverted:

The formal end of NEP may be dated by 11 October 1931, when a decree was issued about the ban of the private trade.[1]

After that I found this text by Mikhail Eliseykin which casts serious doubts on this statement:

  • The statement is all over the intenets, but nobody cites the actual document
  • Eliseykin cites later decrees from which it is seen that private traders did exist, but severely restricted.
  • Eliseykin cites "Persona non grata: частник в советской торговле на рубеже 1920–1930-х гг." by Твердюкова Елена Дмитриевна, which in his opinion, correctly describes the end of the private trade. --Altenmann >talk 16:55, 29 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

--Altenmann >talk 16:55, 29 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

I don't think that there was an official declaration of the "end of NEP". For starters, NEP was a triad of private property (of the means of production), private enterprise, and private trade. Neither was completely banned in all areas of the economy. --Altenmann >talk 17:02, 29 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Therefore if anyone want to add something about a definite end of NEP I suggest:

  • to phrase it as an expert's opinion
  • If someone mentions some document, it must be directly cited. All major Soviet documents are in the internets (and minor ones clearly cannot be as a watershed mark). --Altenmann >talk 17:06, 29 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

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