Talk:Nesselrode pudding

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by HurricaneZeta (talk) 19:10, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that novelist Susie Boyt described Nesselrode Pudding as tasting "of Christmas, without any of the disappointment"?

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• • ALT1: ... that when Nesselrode Pudding was served at a dinner party in Proust's Remembrance of things past, it was one of very few to earn approving comment from a guest? Source:
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jane Madders
  • Comment: Wrote this last year and completely forgot about it! I followed the redirect naming but suspect it should be retitled Nesselrode pudding, thoughts?

There are probably other hooks around Careme/Mony that could be worked up.

Moved to mainspace by DrThneed (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 25 past nominations.

DrThneed (talk) 01:01, 24 December 2025 (UTC).

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• Hook, length, date ok. QPQ done. ALT1 more interesting. Close paraphrase not found. There should be free Commons image that could be used to illustrate the hook. --Soman (talk) 12:43, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

@Soman: Thanks for the review. I hadn't looked for images, thanks for the suggestion - I found a couple of out-of-copyright which I've added to the article. The Boston cooking school image is fancier but a bit murky, so the clearest is probably this one, which I leave up to you to decide if it is main-page suitable.

Nesselrode Pudding

I also added a cite to the lead to be DYK compliant for the ALT1 hook. DrThneed (talk) 01:48, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

I managed (at vast expense! the price of canned chestnut puree in NZ is horrendous!) to get a colour photo of a Nesselrode Pudding, for your further consideration.

Nesselrode Pudding

DrThneed (talk) 05:55, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

Origin?

Hello. What is this dessert's origin? If Chef Mony was French, should we call it: "Nesselrode pudding is a French chestnut-based frozen dessert?" Great article by the way. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 01:51, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

• @DrThneed: Hello, tagging you because I’ve made a number of changes to the article and would really appreciate your review/input. I also have a few questions below:

In 1828, Carême says that Mony got the idea for this pudding by a recipe Carême had written in an earlier edition of his cookbook. I’m wondering if he might be referring to this 1815 edition (link) since it cannot be the cited source.

British Food History seems to be a big source of the confusion. Their article says Carême attributed the dessert to Mony, which is apparently incorrect because the direct quote from Carême (link) says that Mony got the idea from him. The blog also claims this comes from the original L’Art de la Cuisine Française, but that edition (written later, in 1833) doesn’t mention Mony (or his other spelling variations) or "pouding" at all: (link 1), (link 2)

I mainly just want a gut check that I’m thinking about this the right way and that the article reflects what Carême actually wrote, while also acknowledging the disagreement in later sources. My inclination is to say the creator is disputed -- Carême says he inspired Mony and that it came from an earlier cookbook, which some historian agree and place him as the creator, yet there are others who attribute it to Mony. Curious what you think. Thanks! Morogris (✉ • ✎) 05:10, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Morogris thanks for your thoughts - I'm slammed IRL at the moment but wanted to note I've seen your questions and will revisit this when I can get the time to go back to the sources. I'll ping you when I do. DrThneed (talk) 05:30, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

Hello DrThneed, any thoughts on the message above? Morogris (✉ • ✎) 04:00, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

I've revisited some of the sources - but I really want to read what Annie Gray has to say. I think she may be the person to have looked into it the most. I don't have access to the book (At Christmas We Feast: Festive Food Through the Ages), but am travelling to a city that has it in the library next month, so I'm coming back to this then. DrThneed (talk) 02:22, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Karlsbad De vs Cz

Hi, I think the link to Karlsbad should link to Karlsbad (Karlovy Vary) in Czechia, the spa town. ~2026-94151-9 (talk) 08:35, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

• Thanks for the note. I've made the change in the article. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 19:06, 11 February 2026 (UTC)