Talk:Miriam Silverberg

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 10:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

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• ... that historian Miriam Silverberg is credited with "put[ting] the modern girl on the map"? Source: In 1991, Miriam Silverberg published two path-breaking essays: "The Modern Girl as Militant" and "Constructing the New Cultural History of Prewar Japan." Together these essays put the modern girl on the scholarly map and demarcated an intellectual field that has subsequently been explored and expanded by numerous scholars following Silverberg's lead.
  • ALT1: ... that the Los Angeles Times said that Miriam Silverberg's scholarship "is often required reading for those studying modern Japan"? Source: Silverberg's scholarship is often required reading for those studying modern Japan. She has written about militant Japanese women, Japanese popular culture and Nakano Shigeharu, the poet and cultural critic. She encouraged the study of colonialism through the lens of the intimate, everyday interactions between the colonizer and the colonized.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Din Mohammad (wrestler)

Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 93 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 18:39, 26 July 2025 (UTC).

• The article is new, long enough, and well-sourced. I see no neutrality or copyright concerns. I do, however, have problems with the hooks. ALT0 is not the exact quote (the word "scholarly" is missing) and I think the same fact can be presented in a much more interesting manner without the quote. I am thinking of just very plainly stating that Silberberg was the scholarly expert on modern girls. ALT2 is not as interesting as ALT0 could be with some tweaks. And there is another option: if Erotic Grotesque Nonsense is notable, as suggested by the red link, and if you are interested in the subject, there is a potential for a fantastic double hook. Surtsicna (talk) 22:30, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

• @Surtsicna: I could rewrite ALT0, but since you brought up ALT3, that's an even great idea! The book meets GNG and should have an article. I'll work on it and get it done by tomorrow or day after; I'm free since my summer college session just ended. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:58, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

• @Surtsicna: Erotic Grotesque Nonsense has been completed.

ALT2: ... that Miriam Silverberg once wrote some erotic grotesque nonsense? Source: The book cover.

ALT3: ... that Miriam Silverberg once wrote erotic grotesque nonsense? Source: The book cover.

Now the article will require a separate review, as well as a QPQ (namely Template:Did you know nominations/Stephen King (conservationist). ミラP@Miraclepine 16:45, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for another fresh, comprehensive article, Miraclepine! All relevant POVs seem to be covered. I see no copyright issues. I would avoid unconventional orthography unless we are aiming to keep this for 1 April. In this case, I do not think we need to obfuscate anything to draw the readers in. How about ALT4: ... that the academic career of the modern girl expert Miriam Silverberg ended in Erotic Grotesque Nonsense? Surtsicna (talk) 20:18, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: Don't need that verbosity; how about:

ALT4b: ... that Miriam Silverberg's academic career ended in Erotic Grotesque Nonsense?

ミラP@Miraclepine 20:22, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

Almost forgot: since hooks need to be supported by a quote if the source is paywalled, note the quote is Due to her premature death, the book under review here, Erotic Grotesque Nonsense: The Mass Culture of Japanese Modern Time, is her last word on a field of scholarship that has proven to be productive and essential, demonstrated most recently in The Modern Girl Around the World.. ミラP@Miraclepine 20:30, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

Sold! Surtsicna (talk) 20:31, 17 August 2025 (UTC)