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Latest comment: 2 months ago by Einsof in topic "Sad beige"

It's a recognisable concept, but the current article is anti-educational

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Millennial Grey is an idea with fairly wide purchase, so there's probably a case for keeping the article in some form, but the current content represents an inscrutable generalisation made by a few interior design commentators. A better version of the article would surely engage more with the *reason* that Millennials (and most of Gen Z, for that matter) end up renting lifeless grey apartments filled with cheap disposable furniture, and how generational 'trends' are developed and deployed as a marketing tool. 'Millennial Grey' is an unsubstantiated hypothesis based on hearsay and is a total misreading of how individual taste relates to the state of housing. ~2026-40197-26 (talk) 16:15, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Agreed with the above. This article seems to be more suited as an Urban Dictionary definition, especially considering the "Millennial Grey" concept originates from the baby boomer generation, house flippers, as well as a corporate idea to strip away personality both to make things cheaper to manufacture and to make them easier to market as "for everyone". ~2026-37655-49 (talk) 16:34, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I am going to work on this article as there is a lot to be said culturally for Millennial Grey, which Is more of a concept than an actual, singular color. See also: Millennial pink listed on the Shades of pink page. Much of the information already added to this article would be better suited to a Controversy section where hearsay and other issues could be articulated. Clairebrarian (talk) 17:03, 18 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Landlord Special

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Every single millennial I know (myself included) loathes this design trend and called it "the landlord special". If this page remains, I nominate we change the name to Landlord Special ~2026-40192-44 (talk) 16:45, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, I've only ever heard this referred to as the Landlord Special or a name similar to that, never associated with millennials. It's tied to landlords and businesses in the same way that most fast food buildings have become very genericized so they can be easily resold in the future. The millenial label has little to nothing to do with this trend. ~2026-40261-63 (talk) 20:03, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Nah, this is revionism. I've heard other millennials acknowledge it as "millennial gray", and know plenty of people from my age group who have chosen to decorate their homes in this way when renovating their home or building a new home. There being millennials who do not like the aesthetic does not erase that many do (or did). No decision about the article should be based on "Well, I personally don't use the term or know someone that does!". It's a thing. It exists. Both the aesthetic itself and the name "millennial gray" as a way of denoting that aesthetic. That is not meaningfully up for debate in my mind, and unless you can point to reputable sources covering some differing perspective, I don't think there's anything else to be said on this part.
I understand that the brief flash of attention from social media is going to attract users with highly polarized views, but let's at least pretend about creating a good article instead of doing team sports. Dfsghjkgfhdg (talk) 20:41, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I like that your anecdotes and hearsay are somehow more valid than the ones you are saying are "revisionism". If you want to "create a good article" then back up your claims with citations. Neither your nor the article as it exists currently are providing any.
"It's a thing. It exists." then you should be able to prove it, because you are currently also providing, "Well, I personally know someone that uses the term!" as the justification for keeping it. ~2026-40104-45 (talk) 21:43, 17 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
The article links to one person who spoke to nine people most of whom don't identify it as millenial gray.
There's no evidence that it was a trend that millenials liked and half the references talk about "the early 2000s" when millenials weren't making any decisions.
You are just pointlessly defending the status quo of the article existing. Applying your own standard to the evidence would lead to saying there's no evidence that this is a thing. ~2026-40350-35 (talk) 06:34, 18 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
"Landlord special" refers to shoddy repair work, particularly blasting every interior surface with thick coats of white (not grey) paint. Suitable sources on this are a bit thin, but see, e.g., this. It's not the same thing as grey décor. Einsof (talk) 08:32, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
None of this is relevant. What is relevant is whether enough high quality sources exist to establish the term is notable. If they do, we use those sources to describe the term. If they don't, we delete the article. As per the AfD I think there isn't sufficient sourcing for this. But a name change doesn't fix the problem, it just kicks the ball down the road and / or serves as a backdoor and out of process AfD. Simonm223 (talk) 10:55, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I believe in this section we are now discussing, somewhat separately, the (in)applicability of the term "landlord special" to what is now termed "Millennial grey". I found a source on "landlord off-white" which also defines the "landlord special" as I defined previously. The term has currency on web forums, but it is hard to find enough mention in edited publications to sustain a "Landlord special" article. In any case, this is consistent with what I said previously: "landlord special" does not mean "Millennial grey". I will continue to try to hunt down sources for "landlord grey" or "flipper grey", or else I fear we'll have to remove those terms from the lede sentence. Einsof (talk) 22:07, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

No, just no

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it's not Millennial appeal. We can't afford interior decorating. Trust me, my house would be obnoxiously blue if I had a house. - a Millennial ~2026-40351-71 (talk) 05:48, 18 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Try again

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Hi, an annonymous Millennial here, and no, this has nothing to do with Millennials. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-40362-67 (talk) 12:12, 18 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Visitors

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Where are a lot of these visitors coming from? The AfD couldn't have done this alone. I don't see any recent discussion on reddit. Looking at Pageviews Analysis, the views went from 61 to 1,079 between 07/16 and 07/17. – The Grid (talk) 14:07, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Bluesky - a relatively popular YouTube performer posted about it. Technically it's how I became aware of the article too though my issues with the article are much more policy based than theirs. Simonm223 (talk) 14:44, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Verification -- grey floors

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Simonm223: why does this fail verification? The source says, "Those gray faux-wood floors are [...] usually paired with those harsh LED spotlights and millennial gray walls, mimicking the vibe of a cold, gloomy day." Nor does the article text say the floors are part of Millennial grey; it says they can be used with Millennial grey, which is what the source says. Einsof (talk) 19:56, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

I felt there was far too much synth to reach the cited conclusion from it. Simonm223 (talk) 12:52, 23 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Verification -- Gen Z loathing

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Simonm223: with regard to this, the source says that Millennial grey "has become a talking point for Gen Z on social media. The general argument is that, while gray can look beautiful in moderation, it can't stand on its own without looking somber or lifeless. [...T]he discourse has created a strong generational divide[. ... M]illennial gray has its fair share of TikTok-savvy critics." Why is this not enough to support the article statement contrasting Millennial and Gen Z? Einsof (talk) 20:02, 20 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

No Indication Milennials like it. Simonm223 (talk) 12:51, 23 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Of course. That's why the sentence this source was attached to was carefully crafted to not claim that millennials actually like it. The sentence was, "To the extent that Millennial grey is said to be enjoyed by Millennials, it is also said to be loathed by Generation Z." The extent to which millennial grey is actually enjoyed by millennials is left unspecified. Einsof (talk) 18:10, 23 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

"Sad beige"

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I don't think we can fairly join up these two concepts when the source for 'sad beige' describes it as "a reaction to grey – sometimes dubbed 'millennial grey'." That surely demonstrates that the two concepts are aligned/entwined but still extricable, no? Becsh (talk) 13:02, 23 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, the sources distinguish between these two terms. Einsof (talk) 02:27, 24 July 2026 (UTC)Reply