Talk:Maniyani

Subject: Request for Permanent Protection of Maniyani Nair Page

Dear Wikipedia Support Team,

I'm writing to request permanent protection for the "Maniyani Nair" Wikipedia page () due to potential vandalism and sensitivity of information.

• Reasons for Protection*

1. *Accuracy and authenticity*: The page provides valuable historical and cultural information. 2. *Potential vandalism*: Unverified edits may compromise accuracy. 3. *Community sensitivity*: The page's content is significant to the Maniyani Nair community.

• Requested Protection Measures*

1. *Permanent protection*: Lock the page from editing. 2. *Semi-private*: Restrict access to verified editors. 3. *Monitor changes*: Alert administrators to potential vandalism.

• Page Details*

1. *Title*: Maniyani 2.*URL*:(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniyani_%28caste%29?wprov=sfla1)

Best regards Anurajav (talk) 20:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Immediate Protection: [maniyani] Page"

I'm writing to request urgent protection for the "Maniyani" Wikipedia page due to repeated vandalism and fake information insertion.

url:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniyani_%28caste%29?wprov=sfla1 Anurajav (talk) 20:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 November 2025

Change request: Remove the following sentence: "and do not intermarry with other Nair subcaste especially general category subcastes. [10] Payyanur Poduval, Nair, and Vaniya-Vattakad Nairs."

Reason: The sentence has no reliable sources and violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. Unsourced claims about caste practices are not allowed. Historyfatherman (talk) 10:09, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

Question: Are you able to find any sources yourself? If so, I will mark this as not done. NotJamestack (✉️|📝) 01:37, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Reference for restored content

I have found a reliable source to support this information: K. S. Singh (1992), *People of India: Karnataka*, Anthropological Survey of India, p. 760. Please consider restoring the content Historyfatherman (talk) 05:26, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Sources for caste information

I have found a reliable source to support this information: K. S. Singh (1992), *People of India: Karnataka*, Anthropological Survey of India, p. 760. Please consider restoring the content. Historyfatherman (talk) 05:27, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 November 2025

Subject: Request to restore content with reliable source

Message:

The statement:

> “not intermarry with other Nair subcaste especially general category subcastes Payyanur Poduval, Nair, and Vaniya-Vattakad Nairs”

is supported by a reliable source:

K. S. Singh (1992), People of India: Karnataka, Anthropological Survey of India, p. 760

I request that the content be reviewed and restored, as it is now properly sourced Historyfatherman (talk) 05:34, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: The content you are asking to be restored is already present in the article. Day Creature (talk) 16:07, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 November 2025

Subject: Request to correct marriage information using the actual source

Request: The article currently claims that Maniyani “do not intermarry with other Nair subcastes.” This is not supported by the cited source.

The cited source K. S. Singh, People of India: Karnataka (1992), p. 760 states:

> “A kind of hypergamy exists, that is the Nayar girls marry Kolari men, but the Kolari girls are not married to Nayar men.”

This shows intermarriage between Nayar and Kolari (Maniyani), not a total prohibition.

Please update the article so the content matches what the source actually says Historyfatherman (talk) 05:18, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Please link your sources. NotJamestack (✉️|📝) 12:57, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 November 2025 (2)

Statement “not intermarry with other Nair subcastes” is unsourced / misrepresents the cited source — remove per WP:V, WP:BURDEN, and WP:NOR. Historyfatherman (talk) 20:21, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

 Done The fact that one of those sources was to a work of fiction is one of the most utterly bizarre things I've ever seen. I removed more than you specified here given that the rest of the surrounding sentence was also quite poorly written and sourced. As above _{so below} 23:19, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Source (K.S. Singh, 1992) contradicts current marriage claim

The reliable source is already cited in the article:

K. S. Singh, People of India: Karnataka (Anthropological Survey of India, 1992), p. 760.

The source does not say “Maniyani do not intermarry with other Nair subcastes.” Instead, the source says:

> “A kind of hypergamy exists, that is the Nayar girls marry Kolari men, but the Kolari girls are not married to Nayar men.”

This clearly shows intermarriage between Nayar and Kolari (Maniyani), not a total prohibition.

Therefore, the current sentence is not supported by the source and should be corrected. Historyfatherman (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 January 2026

The Kolathiri rulers of Kolathunadu, historically also referred to as “Kola kings,” are associated in some traditions and scholarly interpretations with the Kolayan(maniyani) community. Folklore and studies on ritual and ethnic traditions, including the journal Folk-Lore (1973), K. K. N. Kurup (1973), S. S. Sumitha, and other works, mention this association. A 2020 article in the International Journal of Research in Engineering, Science and Management also refers to the Kolayan origin of these rulers.

Reference:

Folk-Lore, Vol. 14, Issue 1, Indian Publications, 1973

Saji Madapat, The Night When The Gods Danced: Chirakkal Perumkaliyattam, 2025

K. K. N. Kurup, The Cult of Teyyam and Hero Worship in Kerala, 1973

S. S. Sumitha, Theyyattam,Tribal Ethnicity and Popular Ritual International Journal of Research in Engineering, Science and Management, Vol. 3, Issue 3, March 2020

VAASTHAVAM thirenjetutha vaasthavakathakal Page count:195 Published:August 24, 2014 Format:ebook Publisher:N.P.Rajendran Language:Malayalam Editor:O K Johney ForgottenVoicesEditor (talk) 09:22, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 16:20, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 January 2026 (2)

The Kolathiri rulers of Kolathunadu, historically also referred to as “Kola kings,” are associated in some traditions and scholarly interpretations with the Kolayan community. Folklore and studies on ritual and ethnic traditions, including the journal Folk-Lore (1973), K. K. N. Kurup (1973), S. S. Sumitha, and other works, mention this association. A 2020 article in the International Journal of Research in Engineering, Science and Management also refers to the Kolayan origin of these rulers. ForgottenVoicesEditor (talk) 09:31, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 16:20, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 January 2026

"Some historians associate the Maniyani community with the ancient (ayar) Ay dynasty of South India."

Source: Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai, citing Attur Krishna Pisharodi, Journal of Kerala Studies, Vol. 14, University of Kerala, 1987. ForgottenVoicesEditor (talk) 21:23, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. kline / talk / contribs 23:21, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 January 2026 (2)

In the Origin paragraph of the History section, add the following sentence at the end:

"Some historians associate the Maniyani community with the ancient Ay dynasty (also known as Ayar), whose rulers identified with the Yadava lineage."

Source: Padmaja, T., *Temples of Krishna in South India: History, Art, and Traditions in Tamil Nadu*; and Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai citing Attur Krishna Pisharodi, Journal of Kerala Studies, Vol. 14, University of Kerala, 1987. ForgottenVoicesEditor (talk) 21:39, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Not done: your request appears to have been generated by a large language model. InfernoHues (talk) 21:39, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 July 2026

Multiple sources support a historical connection between the Maniyani community and the Ay dynasty of Kerala through shared Yadava (Āyar) lineage. J. N. Singh Yadav identifies the Maniyanis as one of the Kerala Yadava (Āyar) communities. This classification is affirmed in the Rajya Sabha Parliamentary Debates (1975), which similarly lists both the Maniyanis and the Āyar among the Yadava communities of Kerala. Significantly, the Pāṇṭiyar Ceppēṭukaḷ Pattu (1967) records that the rulers of the ancient Ay dynasty themselves claimed Yadava (Āyar) descent — the same lineage attributed to the Maniyanis. This shared Yadava (Āyar) ancestry has led to the Maniyani community being identified with the Ay royal lineage of Kerala. ~2026-39813-14 (talk) 16:34, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 17:41, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

Apologies for the earlier lack of clarity. Here is a clearer, more specific version of the request:

Please add the following new sentence at the end of the "Origin" section, immediately after the existing text "...reached the Kolat land and the Tulu land via Mangalore.":

New text to be added:

This claim of Yadava descent is noted in multiple sources. J. N. Singh Yadav identifies the Maniyanis as one of the Kerala Yadava (Āyar) communities. The Rajya Sabha Parliamentary Debates of 1975 similarly list both the Maniyanis and the Āyar among the Yadava communities of Kerala. According to the Pāṇṭiyar Ceppēṭukaḷ Pattu (1967), the rulers of the ancient Ay dynasty also claimed Yadava (Āyar) descent. ~2026-39813-14 (talk) 02:21, 15 July 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 July 2026 (2)

Please change:

The Maniyanis believe themselves to have descended from the ancient Yadava clan.[9] It is believed that from Gokarnam, a group of those who set out for various parts of India, reached the Kolat land and the Tulu land via Mangalore.

to:

The Maniyanis believe themselves to have descended from the ancient Yadava clan.[9] It is believed that from Gokarnam, a group of those who set out for various parts of India, reached the Kolat land and the Tulu land via Mangalore.

This claim of Yadava descent is noted in multiple sources. J. N. Singh Yadav identifies the Maniyanis as one of the Kerala Yadava (Āyar) communities. The Rajya Sabha Parliamentary Debates of 1975 similarly list both the Maniyanis and the Āyar among the Yadava communities of Kerala. According to the Pāṇṭiyar Ceppēṭukaḷ Pattu (1967), the rulers of the ancient Ay dynasty also claimed Yadava (Āyar) descent.

}} ~2026-39813-14 (talk) 16:56, 14 July 2026 (UTC)