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| On 24 January 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from MKS (Switzerland) to MKS PAMP. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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Subject: Request for updates to reflect 2021 merger and correct company information (COI disclosure) Hello, I would like to request a series of updates to this page, as some of the information currently presented is outdated or no longer accurate. The company’s name is MKS PAMP since the 2021 merger of MKS (Switzerland) SA and PAMP SA, forming MKS PAMP SA. For full transparency, I work for MKS PAMP, and because of my COI, I will not edit the article directly, but I’d like to provide verifiable information and suggest specific changes for consideration by independent editors. Below is a summary of the main inaccuracies on the page as it exists today, along with proposed replacements shown in side-by-side form (current text → proposed text) for clarity. All proposed updates are based on publicly available sources, which I’ve included as well for convenience. I am happy to provide additional citations or clarifications as needed. Thank you very much in advance for your review. List of key edits: 1. Company name and identity Current text: Page title and infobox refer to “MKS (Switzerland) SA” which is the old company name. Lead: “MKS (Switzerland) SA is a trader of precious metals.” No mention of the 2021 merger between MKS (Switzerland) SA and PAMP SA which formed MKS PAMP SA. Proposed replacements: Update page title and infobox name to “MKS PAMP”. Replace the first sentence of the lead with: “MKS PAMP is a precious metals company that combines refining, minting and fabrication of gold, silver, platinum, palladium and other platinum-group metals with physical and financial trading, risk management and logistics.” Proposed addition: Add the following sentence in the History section: “On 30 November 2021, MKS (Switzerland) SA and PAMP SA merged to form MKS PAMP SA, integrating trading, refining, minting and fabrication under a single entity.” - ZEFIX company register entry for MKS PAMP SA - Cantonal Excerpt for MKS PAMP SA - MKS (Suisse) et Pamp fusionnent | CCI France Suisse 2. Logo Current: The logo shown is an old version from the 1980s, no longer in use. Proposed replacement: Replace the logo file with the current MKS PAMP logo - Current corporate branding as displayed on the company’s official site: www.mkspamp.com 3. Activities / lead paragraph content Current lead and “Areas of activity” content: “Based in Geneva, the group employs approximately 1,500 workers. MKS is an associate of the London Bullion Market Association (LBMA), and its subsidiary PAMP has been on the LBMA's Gold List, widely recognised in the financial services industry as the indicator of quality, since 1987.” and in Areas of activity: “As a trading house the company's clients include organisations in the financial services industry, such as banks and fund managers, commodities processors such as gold miners and jewellery manufacturers. MKS subsidiary PAMP SA (Produits Artistiques Metaux Precieux), based in Castel San Pietro in the Swiss canton of Ticino, is a refinery processing gold, silver, platinum and palladium. The refinery produces bars, coins and medallions from the precious metals it refines as well as providing semi-finished products to jewellers and watch manufacturers. It counts Harrods among its retail partners, which offers PAMP's minted products to its customers at its bank in its London flagship store.” Proposed replacements: Replace the “Areas of activity” paragraph with: “MKS PAMP is headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland. Its refinery and mint are located in Castel San Pietro in the Swiss canton of Ticino. MKS PAMP serves industries and financial institutions with an integrated offering comprising refining, minting and fabrication, trading (spot, forwards, options), vaulting and logistics. MKS PAMP recently acquired full ownership of Gold Token S.A. to relaunch its tokenized digital gold offering backed by physical gold.” - Firmensuche | Zentraler Firmenindex - Digital Gold Wave Prompts Switzerland Trader MKS PAMP to Revive Token - Bloomberg Replace the LBMA sentence with the correct and up-to-date Good Delivery formulation: “MKS PAMP is on the London Bullion Market Association (LBMA) Good Delivery Lists for gold and silver and on the London Platinum and Palladium Market (LPPM) Good Delivery Lists for platinum and palladium. MKS PAMP is also an LBMA and LPPM Good Delivery Referee.” - LBMA: Good Delivery List – Gold / Silver - LPPM: Good Delivery List – Platinum / Palladium Currently, the existing paragraph provides erroneous information as providing numbers relating to the MKS PAMP GROUP instead of MKS PAMP (i.e., “1500” is the number of employees for MKS PAMP GROUP and not MKS PAMP). In order to avoid any confusion between MKS PAMP and the MKS PAMP GROUP, we’d suggest including the following in an “Overview” section: “MKS PAMP is part of the MKS PAMP GROUP, an integrated precious metals and financial services organization, which also include the India based refiner MMTC PAMP (a joint venture with MMTC Ltd), the U.S. bullion distributor MTB, the European online retailer GOLD AVENUE and the U.S. online retailer APMEX.” 4. Infobox (company details) Current infobox fields (outdated information): • Name: MKS (Switzerland) SA • Industry: Financial services • Founded: 1979 • Headquarters: Geneva, Switzerland • Key people: Marwan Shakarchi (CEO) • Products: Refined precious metals • Subsidiaries: PAMP SA • Website: mkspamp.com Proposed replacement infobox (field-by-field): Name: MKS PAMP Type: Private Industry: Precious metals refining, minting, trading Founded: 1977 (PAMP SA), 1979 (MKS (Switzerland) SA); merged 2021 Founder: Mahmoud Kassem Shakarchi Headquarters: Geneva, Switzerland Number of offices locations: 9 Key people: Karma Liess-Shakarchi (Chair, MKS PAMP SA); Marwan Shakarchi (Executive Member, MKS PAMP SA); James Emmett (CEO, MKS PAMP SA) Products: Gold, silver, platinum, palladium bullion bars; coins; minted products; industrial precious metals products Brands: PAMP (Produits Artistiques Métaux Précieux) Services: Minting; refining; trading; treasury services; vaulting and storage Num employees: 400 Parent: MKS PAMP GROUP Website: https://www.mkspamp.com 5. History section 5.1 Founding and early development Current history text: “The company was founded in Switzerland in 1979 by an Iraqi gold trader Mahmoud Kassem Shakarchi, hence the name MKS. His son and daughter jointly took over the running of the company in 1983, since when the company has expanded to have staff located in 15 offices in 12 countries around the world. MKS bought PAMP SA in 1981, and began to supply gold bars to jewellers, high street banks, investments banks and central banks.” Proposed replacement text: Replace the existing history paragraph with: “The roots of MKS PAMP trace to the 1970s with the establishment of PAMP SA (Produits Artistiques Métaux Précieux), founded in 1977 in Castel San Pietro, and to the Geneva-based trading house MKS (Switzerland) SA, founded in 1979 by Mahmoud Kassem Shakarchi. Over the early 1980s, the group acquired a majority shareholding in PAMP, building a vertically integrated model under common ownership focused on minted small bars and international trading.” - ZEFIX company register entry for MKS PAMP SA - Cantonal Excerpt for MKS PAMP SA - PAMP Suisse Gold Bars: A Guide to Their History and Product Range | Silver Bullion 5.2 Merger and recent developments (new content) Current: • No mention of the 2021 merger or recent leadership. Proposed additions Add a “Merger (2021)” subsection: "On 30 November 2021, MKS (Switzerland) SA and PAMP SA merged to form MKS PAMP SA, integrating trading, refining, minting, and fabrication under a single entity." - ZEFIX company register entry for MKS PAMP SA - Cantonal Excerpt for MKS PAMP SA - MKS (Suisse) et Pamp fusionnent | CCI France Suisse Add a short “Recent developments” section: “MKS PAMP has expanded internationally with subsidiaries and offices in Geneva, Dubai, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Thailand, Shanghai and New York. On 1 January 2025 James Emmett became CEO of MKS PAMP SA while Marwan Shakarchi assumed the role of CEO of MKS PAMP GROUP and Executive Board Member of MKS PAMP SA.” - Gold Boom Spurs Trader MKS PAMP to Boost Hong Kong Presence - SWI swissinfo.ch - Gold boom spurs Swiss precious metals firm to boost presence in HKSAR - Leading Swiss precious metals firm MKS PAMP expands operation in HK - Singapore and Hong Kong go for gold in precious-metal trade 6. PAMP section Current text: “PAMP SA (Produits Artistiques Métaux Précieux) is a world leading, independently operated, precious metals refining and fabricating company, member of the MKS Group. It was established in 1977 in Ticino, Switzerland. It provides vertically integrated services in precious metals, from collection of doré from the mine, through to assaying, hedging and delivery of its bars and other products throughout the world. The company produces a complete selection of bullion bars, from 12.5 kilograms to 1 gram and leads the world market for gold bars of 50 grams or less. PAMP also operates in India through MMTC-PAMP, a joint venture between the company and MMTC Ltd.” Proposed replacement text: PAMP SA is no longer a separate company but remains the product brand of MKS PAMP. We’d suggest replacing the existing paragraph with a short, merged formulation reflecting the current structure: “PAMP (Produits Artistiques Métaux Précieux) is the product brand of MKS PAMP SA. The Lady Fortuna™ motif (introduced in 1979) is one of its recognized decorative designs on minted bars. In 2009, Harrods launched in store bullion sales with PAMP products; since 2023, Costco U.S. has also listed PAMP products.” - pamp.com/our-brand/lady-fortuna/ - Harrods sells gold ingots over counter | London Evening Standard | The Standard - The Headache at the End of the Costco Gold Rush - WSJ - Costco Sells Gold Bars To Customers - Costco is selling gold bars and they are selling out within hours 7. “MKS in the media” section Current text: “MKS is often quoted as a gold trading expert in the media. Financial media such as Bloomberg, Businessweek, Financial Times, Reuters and the San Francisco Chronicle have quoted them.” Proposed change: • “MKS” to be replaced by “MKS PAMP” - Digital Gold Wave Prompts Switzerland Trader MKS PAMP to Revive Token - Bloomberg - Is the gold rally a bubble about to burst? – DW – 12/01/2025 8. Examples sources to include: • Gold Boom Spurs Trader MKS PAMP to Boost Hong Kong Presence - SWI swissinfo.ch • China Daily: “Gold boom spurs Swiss precious metals firm to boost presence in HKSAR” • The Standard: “Leading Swiss precious metals firm MKS PAMP expands operation in HK” • Financial Times: “Singapore and Hong Kong go for gold in precious-metal trade” • Bloomberg: “Digital Gold Wave Prompts Switzerland Trader MKS PAMP to Revive Token - Bloomberg” • Bilan : « Raffinerie MKS PAMP: Les coulisses d’un géant de l’or suisse | Bilan” • DW: “Is the gold rally a bubble about to burst? – DW – 12/01/2025 » • The Standard: “Harrods sells gold ingots over counter | London Evening Standard | The Standard” • The Wall Street Journal: “The Headache at the End of the Costco Gold Rush - WSJ” • Forbes: “Costco Sells Gold Bars To Customers” • CNBC: “Costco is selling gold bars and they are selling out within hours” • Silver Bullion: “PAMP Suisse Gold Bars: A Guide to Their History and Product Range | Silver Bullion” • Bloomberg: “Gold Refiner MKS PAMP to Stop Working With Mines That Miss Carbon Goals - Bloomberg” |
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The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. If there is any objection within a reasonable time frame, please ask me to reopen the discussion; if I am not available, please ask at the technical requests page. (closed by non-admin page mover) HurricaneZetaC 21:32, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
MKS (Switzerland) → MKS PAMP – The company changed its name in 2021 after a merger. Proposing as an RM to help facilitate the above COI edit request. I am neutral. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:22, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
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