Talk:Knife legislation

Grammar

"have broad discretion to authority to prohibit the carrying" - what is this supposed to say? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.161.48.249 (talk)

The statement in this section should probably read "... have broad discretion and authority to prohibit the carrying ..."; feel free to change it if you see fit.

Please also, sign your additions to talk pages, and it would be helpful when asking questions about a specific statement in an article, if you'd link to the section. Thanks. fredgandt 00:36, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

The "discretion to" word pair is removed. —ADavidB 13:34, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Italy

I've just been trying to find references for the Italian section, and found nothing useful, except this at europa.eu which states that "The project is still at the development phase."

I continued on to the linked project and partly because it's written in Italian (a language I don't read) I found nothing relevent. I did find a "ROYAL DECREE" of "November 16, 1939" about the "Rules for the acceptance of flooring materials" though - so that's good -_-

This section needs to be evaluated by an expert in Italian law. My many and varied searches did turn up one article stating that "The Italian legal system is inordinately complicated and most lawyers (avvocato) and judges (giudici) are baffled by the conflicts between different laws, many dating back centuries, and EU directives serve to complicate matters further." fredgandt 04:44, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

"Carrying a knife in Italy is strictly forbidden" can't possibly be true. It's also contradicted later in the same paragraph: "unless a specific circumstance of need exists". I'm going to remove this section until we have a source. Kendall-K1 (talk) 03:53, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Wrong order

Why is the Netherlands between France and Germany when the rest of the list is in alphabetical order? Is there any reason for this or is it an error? Coco Chen (talk) 09:58, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

I found no valid reason and put the Netherlands section in its alphabetical position between Lithuania and Norway. —ADavidB 13:19, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

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Hello all, what does a phrase like "Bryan v. Mott, 62 Cr App R 71 (1976)" (see footnote #64 in the article) actually mean? I am assuming that it is a reference to a jurisprudence in the case of Bryan versus Mott in the Court of appeal in 1976, but could we have a more explicit reference and if possible a link to the source?(Bear with me, I am trying to translate this into French.) Thanks in advance for your help. Pensées de Pascal (talk) 17:46, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Kitchen Knives

Can anyone here clarify the UK law on Kitchen knives?

If I purchase a knife from a shop and it is still in its packaging and I am stopped by the police on my way home, what is the likelihood of being arrested? Can I be sure that I will be treated as innocent until proven guilty in this situation?

If I am transporting a kitchen knife that I already own from one premises to another and the knife is inside a closable case or box with a latch so that it is not immediately ready to use, what is the likelihood of being arrested if I am stopped? Can I be sure that I will be treated as innocent until proven guilty in this situation?

What is the likelihood of being arrested if I use a kitchen knife to cut food at a picnic in a public park? Can I be sure that I will be treated as innocent until proven guilty in this situation?

In my view, I think that the law very much needs to be clarified in cases such as the above.95.172.233.137 (talk) 02:55, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

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May be out of date. I didn't check each link but the ones I saw at first glance seem to now link to the incorrect pages. Anyone else notice this? + Insert Pretty Signature Here + 17:37, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

German knife laws

Hey there, German passing through. The section on Germany is mostly bullshit. The sources given are correct, but either mistranslated or severely misinterpreted. I'm going to give a short summary, and leave correcting the article to somebody with better English.

"Knives classed as cutting and thrusting weapons are generally restricted to possession and use on private property, and may not be carried in public or at certain public events." The restriction mentioned is in §42a (Called "restricted use knives" here), and is basically unenforceable. More on that below. Also, every "restricted use knife" is a "cutting and thrusting weapon" by definition - the definition for a weapon in Germany is either something intended to be used as a weapon, or something expressly mentioned in the weapons law. Carrying in public has no further restrictions in the weapons law. Carrying in gatherings does have restrictions in the "Versammlungsgesetz" (Law on gatherings), but those apply not to knives or weapons specifically like it's described here, but to anything that could be used as a weapon.

"All knives that are not illegal may be legally purchased, owned, and used by anyone on private property." Wrong. Knives classed as "weapons" may only be owned by people of at least 18 years of age. §2 Waffg.

"However, some knives are restricted from being carried in public, which is defined as exercising actual control of a restricted-class knife outside the home, business, or private property." Again, wrong. They're restricted from carrying READY TO USE. The definition is in the VwVWaffg. "Actual control" is only relevant for ownership in the BGB, not for weapon laws.

"All folding knives that have a one-handed opening mechanism and can be locked with only one hand (whether automatic, assisted-opening, or manual in nature)" Automatics are not considered "one-handed". It'd be the sensible assumption, but Anlage 2 Waffg expressly states that legal switchblades are not weapons and not subject to the weapons law. Official, non-binding sources regularly deny this thoug, and afaik there has not been a court case on it yet.

"The desire to defend oneself, or to use the knife as a tool without proof of necessity for its use is ordinarily not considered a legitimate purpose under the law." That's outdated as of February 2021. With the revisions to §42.6, the "valid reason" was extended to include having any gun license, whether there's a concrete reason for carrying the knife or not. Also, the law never required "proof of necessity" only a reason given. Should be obvious, since burden of proof is with the prosecution. --2003:F6:FF09:5000:B16:6EFD:5B7F:21E (talk) 13:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Bulgarian knife laws

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I was reading through this article and noticed that on the section about knife laws in Bulgaria, it seems as though some Bulgarian just has written a massive paragraph in fairly-casual language with two (I think) sources where they appear to backtrack on themselves and correct what they have said without actually deleting the mistake. It reads like how a script of a conversation would look. Should probably be fixed, but I don't know enough on the topic to do so. Meebus (talk) 14:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Added Section for Recent Massachussetts SJC Ruling

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You can find it under "Constitutional protection" or just search for "Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court"

Thank you Bobak617 (talk) 10:48, 24 March 2025 (UTC)