Talk:Hurricane Lala
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Should We Change The Title To Major Hurricane Lala?
[edit]İt became a Cat 3 hurricane.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/mobile/text/refresh/HFOTCPCP2+html/161150.shtml ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 05:35, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think so, considering other Wikipedia articles listed other major hurricanes as just Hurricane _.
- For instance, Hurricane Cesar-Douglas, Hurricane Genevieve (2020), Hurricane John (1994), Hurricane Jova (2023), Hurricane Melissa, Hurricane Milton, Hurricane Sandy, and so on. AverageAnonymousAndy (talk) 05:51, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with AverageAnonymousAndy. It wouldn't make sense if only Lala got "Major Hurricane" while stronger hurricanes only get "Hurricane" status. It wouldn't be fair, and might also confuse some readers too. 🐴🌀 (talk) 06:58, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed. The term Major Hurricane __ is almost never used on Wikipedia for naming Atlantic and Pacific hurricanes. In a similar fashion, you don't see articles called Super Typhoon Vera (1959) for Pacific typhoons either. There is no need to change it if Hurricane Lala works perfectly fine and suits naming standards. CycloneTheta talk 09:01, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- That’s simply not how article naming work, like, Hurricane Beryl isn’t called Major Hurricane Beryl, and the 2025 Enderlin tornado isn’t called the 2025 Enderlin EF5 tornado. HurricaneMelissa 11:18, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
Lala’s infobox image
[edit]There’s a couple of Lala images available and I was wondering what the consensus for Lala’s infobox image (or any image to represent the storm, like in Tropical cyclones in 2026, etc.) would be, I provided three images below for what could be decided on, if there’s other images you want to share or also debate on feel free to discuss them.
| Image 1 | Image 2 | Image 3 | Image 4 |
|---|---|---|---|
Image 1: Former infobox image, highest-resolution polar image that got a bullseye on the storm, Lala was still rapidly intensifying during this period and had not reached peak
Image 2: Current infobox image, from Triple-A-Tropics which was advised from the creator of the site himself to refrain from using the sites GeoColor renders frequently due to it still being in an Open Beta & still needs adjusting, taken shortly before Lala was upgraded to C4 in the ATCF
Image 3: GOES-18 sunset, quite nice looking, also taken shortly before Lala was upgraded to C4 in the ATCF but could need some visual adjustments
Image 4: GeoColor Nighttime IR, "advisory peak", Lala had begun to show signs of weakening during this point and the colors and brightness levels need adjusting
Thoughts? ViridLeWiki (talk) 14:35, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Image 1 since it is the highest-resolution, actual true color image that we have. Might as well mention @ZonResearcher:. Regards, 👦 15:21, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Image 1, it is the highest quality image (and best looking (subjective)) image. Z136a1 (talk) 15:34, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Image 2 - even though I prefer the 4th image as its right at its peak intensity, it looks a bit off due to being superimposed into nasa's blue marble 2004, (a thing which I'm still not the best at). image 1 is fine and I wouldn't mind it being used, however the main issue that I have is that since its resolution is at 250m, it makes the image look slightly pixelated when you zoom in. images 2 and 3 seem very similar in quality i also wouldn't mind them being used, I think the 2nd image has the edge over the 3rd image since it looks slightly better. ZonResearcher (talk) 16:16, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- @ZonResearcher: Image 1 should be better now that it's reprocessed to its original resolution. Regards, 👦 15:09, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- much better than its previous revision, thanks ZonResearcher (talk) 15:33, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- ill also go ahead and replace the true color variant with this again ZonResearcher (talk) 15:41, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- much better than its previous revision, thanks ZonResearcher (talk) 15:33, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- @ZonResearcher: Image 1 should be better now that it's reprocessed to its original resolution. Regards, 👦 15:09, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Image 1 - I prefer polar imagery over GOES since they are higher quality and capture actual true-color, and it's really not that far off from its peak. However, I wouldn't mind images 2 or 3 being used, preferably the latter since Lala's eye looks less ragged and that's if it gets some visual adjustments to make it look better. Image 4 looks really off despite being at peak intensity. ~ Sandy14156 (Talk ✉️) 05:19, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Image 2 I agree with ZonResearcher on that part ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 11:22, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Image 2, as it is better representative of Lala's peak. If image 1 is to be used it needs to be cropped to not make the storm look tiny. Resolution is of little importance when nearly all readers will not view it even close to full resolution.--Jasper Deng (talk) 16:13, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Jasper Deng: Done. Regards, 👦 00:18, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Image 2. Image 1 is fine too. Image 3 is okay, but it looks a bit dark and you can't see the inside of the storm's eye. --TheOneAndOnlyInkpen (talk) 22:56, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Image 1. Cleanest and concise view of the storm without a multicolored-background. Image 3 if not Sria-72 (talk) 00:57, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Image 2 Since it's closer to peak intensity, and the structure of the hurricane is of course not degraded, only criticism I got from the image is that it looks too zoomed in. I know there's nothing out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, but tc images of the past were usually a bit zoomed out. TheWxResearcher (talk) 02:15, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- I'm okay with Image 3 as well just need to adjust the lighting a bit. TheWxResearcher (talk) 02:18, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- I Suport İmage 2 because it was near peak and it is the best one in terms of lighting ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 04:54, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- My problem with image 2 is that the rendering of the image has post-processing issues which is something the creator of Triple-A-Tropics and others have pointed out and why the website is sill in beta (TAT or any geocolor image/source in general should be refrained from using when polars at the same time are available in my opinion), if you look closely you’ll see an anaglyph effect when zoomed in. However, the colors are alright. @TheOneAndOnlyInkpen @Jasper Deng @TheWxResearcher @ZonResearcher ViridLeWiki (talk) 13:55, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- The only polar to have gotten a good image and is closest to peak is that same NOAA-20 pass (image 1) which is 6-9 hours pre-peak which is what makes this discussion have such different views and opinions, would we sacrifice image resolution & quality for peak representation? ViridLeWiki (talk) 13:58, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- We should, when the difference is that drastic. Jasper Deng (talk) 21:16, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- as much as I agree with this statement, that anagylph you've pointed out, I personally think that it isn't really that much of an issue, not to go off topic or anything but this can also be viewed on Typhoon Yagi, Hurricane Nicholas, Tropical Storm Prapiroon and Typhoon Yinxing's lead image but yet, we still use them even though they can easily be replaced. I'm not trying to say that I disagree with your point, I'm just trying to say that there should be somewhat of a balance between Polar orbiting images and RGB True color images that are used ZonResearcher (talk) 14:59, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- My strategy, when I used to upload TC images, was to only upload geostationary images (that being the GOES, Himawari, and Meteosat satellites). The peak of the tropical cyclone would be in the morning or evening, and if the peak occurred during the afternoon, I would utilize the polar images (that being NOAA-20/21, Suomi, and the MODIS satellites). At night, it didn't really matter since there's no visible light at night, so you could use IR images superimposed on the Blue Marble map throughout the night unless there's a full moon when the Suomi and NOAA satellites would be able to pick up light. Giving all you heads up. TheWxResearcher (talk) 20:08, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- @TheWxResearcher: Is it because ABI images look too bright in the afternoon, or just because the peak happened at that time and they're available? --TheOneAndOnlyInkpen (talk) 01:43, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Brightness did play a factor, but the main reason why I didn't use ABI or AHI images during the afternoon is because there are high-quality images from the Polar Orbiting satellites like VIIRS and MODIS that fill in the gap. I only used ABI or AHI during the afternoon when those polar satellites didn't directly pass over the storm, which could cause lines or missing data in the image. TheWxResearcher (talk) 01:46, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- @TheWxResearcher: Is it because ABI images look too bright in the afternoon, or just because the peak happened at that time and they're available? --TheOneAndOnlyInkpen (talk) 01:43, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- My strategy, when I used to upload TC images, was to only upload geostationary images (that being the GOES, Himawari, and Meteosat satellites). The peak of the tropical cyclone would be in the morning or evening, and if the peak occurred during the afternoon, I would utilize the polar images (that being NOAA-20/21, Suomi, and the MODIS satellites). At night, it didn't really matter since there's no visible light at night, so you could use IR images superimposed on the Blue Marble map throughout the night unless there's a full moon when the Suomi and NOAA satellites would be able to pick up light. Giving all you heads up. TheWxResearcher (talk) 20:08, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- I don't really see a problem with the 3D-like effect in the image, but again, I am totally fine with Image 1 being used; it was just from my own preference. I just thought it should be used since GeoColor images are being used more for tropical cyclone articles. I also agree with what ZonResearcher said about the images used on other pages, but I do see your point. --TheOneAndOnlyInkpen (talk) 01:32, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- The only polar to have gotten a good image and is closest to peak is that same NOAA-20 pass (image 1) which is 6-9 hours pre-peak which is what makes this discussion have such different views and opinions, would we sacrifice image resolution & quality for peak representation? ViridLeWiki (talk) 13:58, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- My problem with image 2 is that the rendering of the image has post-processing issues which is something the creator of Triple-A-Tropics and others have pointed out and why the website is sill in beta (TAT or any geocolor image/source in general should be refrained from using when polars at the same time are available in my opinion), if you look closely you’ll see an anaglyph effect when zoomed in. However, the colors are alright. @TheOneAndOnlyInkpen @Jasper Deng @TheWxResearcher @ZonResearcher ViridLeWiki (talk) 13:55, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
Hurricane Lala İntensified into a C2 again
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Could someone add it?
Source 1: https://cyclonicwx.com/storms/cp01/
Source 2: https://zoom.earth/storms/lala-2026/#overlays=temperatures StormL00ver ( konuşma ) 12:24, 21 Ağustos 2026 (UTC) ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 12:29, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Source 2 is invalid, because it uses Zoom Earth. And as of now, it is a Category 1.🐴🌀 (talk) 00:38, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- @StormL00ver: why are we even considering sources besides the NHC? See WP:SOFIXIT. Jasper Deng (talk) 01:37, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Cyclonicwx updates their report based on NHC so it is kinda the same with more steps ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 07:47, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- It uses the operational best track which does not always agree with official advisories, which take absolute precedence until the post-season final best track is released. Jasper Deng (talk) 08:01, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Cyclonicwx updates their report based on NHC so it is kinda the same with more steps ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 07:47, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- @StormL00ver: why are we even considering sources besides the NHC? See WP:SOFIXIT. Jasper Deng (talk) 01:37, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
Big Island fatalities not listed?
[edit]Unusual fatalities automatically listed as having been caused by Lala, with no mention here at all? --Connel MacKenzie - wikt 03:55, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Connel MacKenzie:—All deaths listed here are what has been reported from Lala. Could you elaborate on what you are talking about?IrishSurfer21 (talk) 03:26, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
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