Talk:Horse Powertrain
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Information on product, customers, and corporate structure
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Reason for the change: I am a PR/comms consultant acting on behalf of Horse Powertrain. The team at Horse Powertrain would like to expand the Wikipedia page to encompass their product portfolio, customer base, and organisational structure.
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At present, the article post-introduction covers only the history leading up to the incorporation of the joint venture, and lists of an assorted set of engine systems. This new information aims to expand the scope of information available to readers on what the organisation's overall product set is, what its footprint is, and how it is serving the market. The following three sections are intended to be inserted between the current "History" and "List of Engines" section. To ensure this revision entry is contained to a single topic, the heading tags below are one-layer lower than their intended final placement (eg, a H3 "Products" tag should be a H2 tag, a H4 "Horse One"" tag should be a H3 tag). Proposed additions begin here — Products[edit]Geely and Renault Group transferred their existing intellectual property for engines, hybrid powertrains, transmissions, and batteries to Horse Powertrain upon its creation.[1] Primarily reflecting its focus on automobile manufacturers, the company has since organized its product portfolio into three categories: One, Fusion, and X-Range.[2] Horse One[edit]Horse One consists of standalone engines and transmissions designed for pure-combustion and mild hybrid vehicles. Reflecting the company’s target market of automobile and light commercial vehicle manufacturers, engines in the Horse One range consist of three- and four-cylinder units ranging between 1- to 2-liters in displacement.[3] Alongside petrol and diesel, the product range also includes engines powered by liquefied petroleum gas, methanol, ethanol, gasoline-ethanol flex fuel blends, and hydrogen.[4] For transmissions, the Horse One range includes 5- and 6-speed manual transmission units and a 7-speed dual clutch transmission. Horse Fusion[edit]Horse Fusion products are designed for use within hybrid, plug-in hybrid, or range-extended EV powertrains. This range combines adapted versions of engines from the Horse One range with all-in-one hybrid electric drive units. These units, in turn, integrate electric motors, transmissions, and power systems into a single unit optimized for use alongside an engine. Transmissions within Horse Fusion hybrid electric drive units range from 1- to 4-speed gearboxes. For propulsion, most units feature multiple motors in P1 + P2 or P1 + P3 configurations ranging from 100kW to 260kW.[3] Since its creation, Horse Powertrain has also revealed units using a single motor in a P2.5 configuration, designed to output 120kW.[5] Horse X-Range[edit]Horse X-Range products convert preexisting battery electric vehicles into hybrid, plug-in hybrid, or range-extended EVs. They are intended to eliminate most steps currently required for traditional hybrid system assembly and installation.[6] This is achieved by either:
Developed to reflect a “modular, plug-and-play mindset to ensure easy integration”, the Horse X-Range products are designed to encourage automobile manufacturers to eliminate the need for “parallel” production processes for hybrid and battery electric vehicles. By adopting a shared vehicle platform as a foundation for both pure-electric and hybrid model line-ups, this is intended to “reduce both investment pressure and risk”.[7] Customers[edit]On its creation, Horse Powertrain inherited Geely and Renault Group’s former combustion and hybrid powertrain divisions, becoming the standalone powertrain supplier for both manufacturers. Aside from the Geely and Renault brands, this also meant Horse Powertrain immediately launched with supply agreements for Dacia, Volvo, Proton, Nissan, Zeekr, Lynk & Co, Leapmotor, Chery, and Mitsubishi vehicles.[8][9] Since founding, Horse Powertrain has made several more supply agreements. In May 2024, it agreed to supply 2-liter diesel engines to Turkey’s Habaş Group for a new range of light commercial vehicles.[10] In September 2024, it agreed to supply 1-liter petrol and ethanol flex fuel engines to Brazilian start-up Lecar.[11] In October 2024, media reports surfaced that it was supplying 2-liter engines for the upcoming Mercedes-Benz CLA 250.[12] In April 2025, the company announced it was supplying a 1.3-liter, four-cylinder engine to Caterham, the British sports car manufacturer, with the engines to first feature in the 2026 Caterham Academy series.[13] Structure[edit]On foundation, Horse Powertrain launched with eighteen factories and five R&D centers worldwide, with a total headcount of 19,000.[14] The company’s global headquarters in London oversees two divisions: • Horse Technologies, made up of the nine plants and three R&D centers contributed by Renault in South America, Iberia, Romania, and Turkey • Aurobay Technologies, made up of nine plants and two R&D centers contributed by Geely in Sweden and China In December 2024, Aramco announced that it had purchased a 10% stake in Horse Powertrain as a strategic investment in fuels, engine technology, and lubricants. Renault and Geely each retained 45% stakes in Horse Powertrain.[15]
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Thank you for considering this addition. I have proposed this edit with the aim of full compliance with the COI guidance.
MK-PComms (talk) 18:01, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
Reply 3-JUL-2026
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Edit request declined
- The Wikipedia article ought not to become a directory of this company's products and customers. (See WP:NOTDIRECTORY.)
Regards, Spintendo 10:04, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. Obviously I do have a bias, but I think I partially disagree. I think there are good grounds for this for customers, on reflection. I'm not sure if the same is applicable for structure or products.
- The current page is a partial simple list of the engines without context that doesn't represent what the company does in full, since it produces transmissions, power electronics, motors, and integrated powertrain systems alongside these.
- May it not serve WP:DIRECTORY better to have an overview of the products, nonetheless? Perhaps jettisoning the dedicated Horse One, Horse Fusion, and Horse X-Range subsections but producing a 1-2 paragraph section that would precede the current assorted non-comprehensive lsit of engines to cover what the company does in aggregate? MK-PComms (talk) 10:18, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
Revised content on solutions and structure
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Hello. I am here to re-apply for edits to be made to the page on behalf of the Horse Powertrain team. I am a PR consultant who is filing this to ensure compliance with COI guidelines.
Reason for change: We wish to expand the page to cover the fact the company provides engines, transmissions, motors, and integrated hybrid powertrains - currently it implies it solely provides engines. We also wish to explain to readers what its footprint is. This is a cut down version of the previous edit request, which was rejected several weeks ago.
The following two sections are intended to be inserted between the current "History" and "List of Engines" section. To ensure this revision entry is contained to a single topic, the heading tags below are one-layer lower than their intended final placement (eg, a H3 "Products" tag should be a H2 tag, a H4 "Horse One"" tag should be a H3 tag).
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Products[edit]Geely and Renault Group transferred their existing intellectual property for engines, hybrid powertrains, transmissions, and batteries to Horse Powertrain upon its creation.[1] Primarily reflecting its focus on automobile manufacturers, the company has since organized its product portfolio into three categories: One, Fusion, and X-Range.[2] Horse One[edit]Horse One consists of standalone engines and transmissions designed for pure-combustion and mild hybrid vehicles. Reflecting the company’s target market of automobile and light commercial vehicle manufacturers, engines in the Horse One range consist of three- and four-cylinder units ranging between 1- to 2-liters in displacement.[3] Alongside petrol and diesel, the product range also includes engines powered by liquefied petroleum gas, methanol, ethanol, gasoline-ethanol flex fuel blends, and hydrogen.[4] For transmissions, the Horse One range includes 5- and 6-speed manual transmission units and a 7-speed dual clutch transmission. Horse Fusion[edit]Horse Fusion products are designed for use within hybrid, plug-in hybrid, or range-extended EV powertrains. This range combines adapted versions of engines from the Horse One range with all-in-one hybrid electric drive units. These units, in turn, integrate electric motors, transmissions, and power systems into a single unit optimized for use alongside an engine. Transmissions within Horse Fusion hybrid electric drive units range from 1- to 4-speed gearboxes. For propulsion, most units feature multiple motors in P1 + P2 or P1 + P3 configurations ranging from 100kW to 260kW.[3] Since its creation, Horse Powertrain has also revealed units using a single motor in a P2.5 configuration, designed to output 120kW.[5] Horse X-Range[edit]Horse X-Range products convert preexisting battery electric vehicles into hybrid, plug-in hybrid, or range-extended EVs. They are intended to eliminate most steps currently required for traditional hybrid system assembly and installation.[6] This is achieved by either:
Developed to reflect a “modular, plug-and-play mindset to ensure easy integration”, the Horse X-Range products are designed to encourage automobile manufacturers to eliminate the need for “parallel” production processes for hybrid and battery electric vehicles. By adopting a shared vehicle platform as a foundation for both pure-electric and hybrid model line-ups, this is intended to “reduce both investment pressure and risk”.[7] Structure[edit]On foundation, Horse Powertrain launched with eighteen factories and five R&D centers worldwide, with a total headcount of 19,000.[8] The company’s global headquarters in London oversees two divisions:
In December 2024, Aramco announced that it had purchased a 10% stake in Horse Powertrain as a strategic investment in fuels, engine technology, and lubricants. Renault and Geely each retained 45% stakes in Horse Powertrain.[9] References
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by MK-PComms (talk • contribs) 15:45, 23 July 2026 (UTC)
Reply 5-AUG-2026
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Already declined
- There is nothing new here. One source (ref note #3) even says "Product Brochure". This is more of the same, and Wikipedia is not an extension of the company's product brochure.
Regards, Spintendo 03:26, 6 August 2026 (UTC)