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Latest comment: 3 months ago by Dizzycheekchewer in topic Where's the "Cruz" come from?

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:29, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Cruz in 2025
Cruz in 2025
  • ... that Lin-Manuel Miranda showed Hannah Cruz a tunnel to her husband?
  • Source:
"'Lin-Manuel Miranda has been saying for a while that he was going to show us this tunnel. He texted my wife, ‘I'm coming over to show you the tunnel.' Backstage in the middle of a performance, Utomi felt a tap on his shoulder—it was Miranda and Cruz!"
    • ALT1: ... that Hannah Cruz went viral for her high school performance of "Rose's Turn"?
      Source: "Remember Hannah Rose DeFlumeri? She's the high school student who grabbed the role of Mama Rose in Gypsy by the horns and garnered almost 10,000 hits on Youtube in less than a month with her rendition of 'Rose's Turn.'"
    • ALT2: ... that Hannah Cruz will play the role of Paul Mescal's wife for at least the next decade?
      Source: A Clarence Derwent Award-winning veteran of the theater world, Cruz is set to play Gussie, the wife of Paul Mescal’s Franklin Shepard ... The story takes place over 20 years, and Linklater will shoot the film over the same time span"
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Danquah_Circle
Created by Dizzycheekchewer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Dizzycheekchewer (talk) 15:36, 8 April 2026 (UTC).Reply

  • @Dizzycheekchewer: I strongly advise adding the image to this nomination.--Launchballer 23:09, 8 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
    • @Launchballer: Thanks for the tip. I'm good with inclusion either way. I think I added it to the page here correctly. Dizzycheekchewer (talk) 07:31, 9 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
      • Commment: Please rewrite ALT0, as it makes no sense at all. ("Lin-Manuel Miranda showed Hannah Cruz a tunnel to her husband") Viriditas (talk) 00:44, 12 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
        • I'm a little unclear on the issue. It's spelled out on the page and in the source. They are married actors whose Broadway theaters are connected by a tunnel. Lin-Manuel Miranda (a prominent figure in musical theater) showed Cruz the tunnel, which led to her husband in the other theater. It struck me as a kind of interesting framing that makes people want to know more. That said, definitely open to rewriting, if you could share what about it confuses you or if you had any suggestion of tweaks.
@Dizzycheekchewer: Is the current hook supported in the article? You said "Miranda showed Cruz the tunnel, which led to her husband in the other theater". The article doesn't say that. Maybe you need to add it? Viriditas (talk) 02:44, 13 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Moved from draft to mainspace; new and long enough. WP:NYPOST is used twice. WP:RSP says it is considered marginally reliable for entertainment coverage and "should not be used for controversial statements related to living persons". I don't think meeting by tunnel is controversial, but for the sake of DYK, we should not use the NYP sourcing for the hook in the article. Currently, up above, the hook is sourced to broadway.com, which is owned by the John Gore Organization. I think we should discuss if these two sources are good enough for ALT0. This also ties into BLP-compliance. Can you find other good sources that mention the tunnel? Is broadway.com and NYP good enough? I'm not so sure. The article is neutral and free from copyvio. It is presentable. ALT0 and ALT2 are interesting. ALT2 currently has the same problem as ALT1, as neither are explained in the article enough to support the hooks (see comment about ALT2 above). The virality pointed to in ALT1 isn't really in the current article, so it needs to be added. The hooks are short enough and the image is good and freely licensed. QPQ complete. Waiting for response from nom and changes to article. Viriditas (talk) 09:39, 13 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • @Viriditas: Thank you for the extensive work on this. I unfortunately cannot find anything but the two sources—there is a brief mention in a Playbill source, but it's just referencing Cruz and Utomi performing in the two theaters and the existence of the tunnel. I don't know if it improves it or not, but the Broadway.Com source is really a writeup of an interview (the video is at the bottom of the writeup) on The Broadway Show , which is affiliated with, but ostensibly different from the Broadway.Com organization. It airs on WPIX (a local The CW channel) and The Broadway Channel (which itself is a Gore Organization entity). That program is hosted by Tamsen Fadal, who seems to be a reliable journalist. I tend to think that Broadway.Com is an okay, not amazing source, but think that it works for the non-controversial claims here. Happy enough to be overruled, even if it's my preferred factoid.
  • I made other changes to the article to better build out the info for ALT1 or ALT2. Let me know if you think any more/other support would be needed. Thanks again! Dizzycheekchewer (talk) 05:45, 14 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
After the recent changes up above, I think all the hooks (and chosen image) are good to go. I admit ALT0 is super neat, and really had me confused until I figured it out. I think it would be a fun experiment to see ALT0 on the main page and see what happens. ALT1 and ALT2 are also ready to go. Viriditas (talk) 23:22, 14 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

"Multi-decade film"?

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As far as I can tell, for a multi-decade film, the absolute minimum playing time would be 262,800 hours. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:54, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

It's a film that is shot over the course of multiple decades, making it a multi-decade film. Too soon to say what the runtime will be. Dizzycheekchewer (talk) 16:32, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
That doesn't make it a multi-decade film. A multi-decade film necessarily has a runtime of 30 years or more. I absolutely agree this is a relevant point, just we should call it a better name. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:31, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Multi-decade production. Viriditas (talk) 22:48, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Fixed. Bernanke's Crossbow (talk) 00:01, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Where's the "Cruz" come from?

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It doesn't say anywhere in the article. I know there's a long history of actresses choosing easily-pronounceable stage names, and I can see why her agents might qualms over "DeFlumeri". But they usually have some sort of reasoning behind how they came up with their stage names. Is it really in no RSes? Bernanke's Crossbow (talk) 17:31, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Nobody seems to know. Back in the day (1930s-1970s), this kind of thing was very common. If you became an actor, you were encouraged to change your name to fit the American stereotype of the actor with a monosyllabic surname (for reasons). Nowadays, it is far less common, but I'm guessing because it was once de rigueur, nobody seems to question or wonder about it. I've read lots of biographies about actors, and they were all pretty much told that a name change was required. Viriditas (talk) 00:16, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yeah I didn't see anything mentioning the name change as such in any sources. Iirc, the name change seemed to be around the middle of the 2010s and I have a sense that it might've been a family name rather than a conjured one? But I don't think she discussed it publicly. I assume it's basically what you and Viriditas say, that it was a matter of professional expedience. Dizzycheekchewer (talk) 05:54, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply