Talk:Han Yu (pool player)
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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 18:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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Han Yu (pool player)
- ... that pool player Han Yu did not celebrate after winning her first world championship? "HANDS DOWN FOR HAN!". pro9.co.uk. Retrieved 9 June 2019.
Afterwards, while explaining how it all happened, Han displayed the same quiet fortitude that she had on the table. No boasting, no wild celebrations, no getting too impressed with one's achievements
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... that pool player Han Yu scored a golden break in the final of the WPA World Nine-ball Championship, which was awarded as the referee didn't call it as a foul shot?"HANDS DOWN FOR HAN!". pro9.co.uk. Retrieved 9 June 2019.Sometime in the subsequent rack, a tournament official came over and informed the referee that the golden break of Han was actually an illegal break, meaning that three balls hadn't passed the head string. But since the referee hadn't called it, and nor did Lin, the golden break stood.
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Moved to mainspace by Lee Vilenski (talk). Self-nominated at 15:24, 9 June 2019 (UTC).
This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts for ALT0 are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. I have struck ALT1 as the golden break is not mentioned in the article. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 03:04, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
Quick failing on length. Though GA has no length requirement, I do believe that this article is simply too short and fails criteria 3a with only 358 words of prose. The § career section consists almost entirely of her entering a tournament and who her final competitor(s) were, and the lack of other sections outside of this leaves a lot to be desired. The only except to this (and borderline at that) is the paragraph on the WPA Women's World Nine-ball Championship. Definitely because she is Chinese I know local media on her will be limited and difficult to access, but the article in its current state simply lacks too much, such as perhaps elaborating on her education and training if there are sources for it at all. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 03:04, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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Nominator: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 23:07, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: Canary757 (talk · contribs) 07:45, 6 January 2026 (UTC)
Hi again. Regarding refs
- 1&2 look the same
- 22, 23 and 26 are dateless
- 24, 25, 27 and 28 are missing a website name=
- 22 and 23 also have the website name merged in with the title
- Noting historic fail, primarily on broadness. Page word count has risen from 358 to 649 in that time and I'll look at the other concerns (list as prose) too.
Canary757 (talk) 07:45, 6 January 2026 (UTC)
- ps ref 3 is a bare url. Thanks. Canary757 (talk) 07:47, 6 January 2026 (UTC)
- These ref errors should be solved now. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:01, 6 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks. To be honest, I think the issues flagged by the earlier reviewer I(LunaEatsTuna) in 2023 still remain. Although the article has been improved, the early life section is one sentence, the prose is still she played in the final of......and beat......... etc, and there is no personal life section. In the infobox it says she reached number one in the world but this is not discussed in the article. When did she achieve this? For a sustained period? Once, several times? I know from my own editing of sports BLP's that they can be results heavy but it's good to break it up, add context, more in depth detail of career defining results, notable comebacks etc. The article also jumps from 2019 to 2023 with nothing in between and there is a bit of a gap between 2016 and 2018 also.
- I have some smaller suggestions too like there are two overlinks in the article - All Japan Championship and Liu Shasha. Her 2024 win in the Kamui mixed doubles is not included in title and achievements. Her win in the 2014 China Open has no score or opponent detail but in the next sentence her semi-final exit in a redlisted event is described in greater detail. Her 2016 China Open win looks like it needs a reference. I think her 2023 defeat in the World ten-ball final could be included also (rappler).
- I know from editing pool articles that finding in depth coverage of players is a lot trickier than for say snooker players, and I don't think there is a huge amount of info to extract from sources already in the article. Let me know your thoughts. Canary757 (talk) 07:15, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- I can't invent sourcing. If sources don't mention things about their personal life, which they don't seem to, I can't add such a section. We generally only cover such things if they are particularly notable anyway.
- The WPA rankings are... a mess. is about all we have. I could probably find a source that says she was ranked number one, but that's about it. The rankings are a much less set in stone (and there's lots of competing ones for different tours). I'm happy to add something to say she was world number one, which is indeed helpful, but defining when and for how long is a lot more tricky.
- We might not (yet) have an article for the Amway Cup, but it's a massive event.
- I suspect that the gap between 2019 and 2023 is (as you might have guessed) COVID related, as China had a very lengthy quarantine. AZBilliards doesn't list her as playing a single event in between these dates, but without a source saying she was not playing due to COVID, I can't imply. There was a couple things (like the later stages of the 9-ball world title) that she did in 2017, so I can add that.
- With pool, there's usually only a handful of news articles even for the whole of large events, so covering individual matches is quite unlikely. I'll make the changes above and have another sweep for colour in references. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:21, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, I realise that pool is poorly covered by the media. In my opinion, this article does need more colour to get through GA. This article on azbilliards covering the 2016 China Open describes Yu as the world number three coming from 5–8 behind to defeat the world number one. I would recommend looking for other match reports of her most notable victories/defeats and seeing how much descriptive expansion could take place within a reasonable scope. With regards to her being world number one, I accept that this isn't easy but it does feel like an important milestone in her career. This reference from pro 9 at least states that she was the number one when she played SVB so at least we can say she was number one at that moment. Bare URL alert at ref~22.
- Canary757 (talk) 13:28, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's fair. I've added the piece that you mentioned, and I really have done a search for dates of her #1 status, and she definitely became number one first in 2013, following her nine-ball world title, however, the sources just say that she "now sits atop the pool world", which isn't descriptive enough. I'll add some pieces about where she was number one and see what colour I can find.Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:03, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- So I've added a bit more. Found a really nice source (in Chinese) about her dad, and it's got some nice bits that I've added. It also corroborates her being world number one first in 2014, which I've also added.
- I've added a few more bits, as well as two other Chinese sources that talk about her Chinese eight-ball (hayball) championship, which I've added some colour and one about her during the pandemic, which is cool. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:06, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oh, you may get a kick out of this poorly translated article, which calls pool 'fancy billiards' Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:09, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, Good work with expanding the article, way more detail now, particularly on her early life and I am happy with the article depth now. At 999 words, the article has changed considerably since it first went through a GA review. A few other points.
- Date of birth is different between infobox and prose
- Typo from me. Fixed Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:28, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- 2018 Heyball opponent name needs to be checked
- Also a typo. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:28, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- 2018 WPA Women's World Heyball Championship, reaching the final. She led Lui Shiasa 13–5 in a race-to-18 racks match, but lost nine of the next eleven to only lead by one, but eventually won 18–14. Can you check the score please? the wikilink and the second reference seem to say 17–14?
- Same again. I was doing what I could to get the info down, the detail wasn't ideal. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:28, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- I cannot get reference 3 to work (billiardsdigest)
- I think that is an issue with the website temporarily, it worked fine on Tuesday. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:28, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Refs 27, 34 and 36 need a date
- added access-datss
- Refs 33 and 35 need work/website=
- added Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:37, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Ref 2 description has an incorrect pronoun
- Google Translate is very bad at this, whole article translated is he's. I've swapped out in transtitle. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:37, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- The mixed doubles win could go in the titles list at the bottom?
- Good idea Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:37, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Article passes earwig check
- No original research
- Is neutral
- No redlisted references and they are not primary to the subject
- Thanks. Canary757 (talk) 09:06, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- No drama. I'll get right on that. As it happens, with some really deep searching I found a source that talks about her getting married and being a mum (it was a bit confusing, because quite a few Chinese articles talk about her being a mum, then showing a picture of her with a dog).
- I'll incorporate your fixes and add the bit about her personal life and I think we've really improved this article. :) Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:17, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- I agree so passing now. All criteria met. It would be great to have an image one day. On the subject of images, the other article I'm involved in with this GARC (Talk:Katy Marchant/GA1) has hit an impasse over the image copyright status of one photo. If this is a speciality area for you and if you have a couple of spare minutes it would be great if you could have a look but no problem if not. Thanks. Canary757 (talk) 06:51, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, Good work with expanding the article, way more detail now, particularly on her early life and I am happy with the article depth now. At 999 words, the article has changed considerably since it first went through a GA review. A few other points.
- Oh, you may get a kick out of this poorly translated article, which calls pool 'fancy billiards' Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:09, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- These ref errors should be solved now. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:01, 6 January 2026 (UTC)
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