Talk:Forum for Democracy

Russophilia

Shouldn't we insert "Russophilia" into the infobox's ideology section? This party is fully pro-russian, we cannot even say they're neutral. Other wiki pages like the Slovakian party SMER's, are already have it. Heringcápa (talk) 18:05, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree with this, Baudet and FvD have gone on record as to praising Russia and Vladimir Putin several times over the past few years. AbraxasAbominog (talk) 15:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

It should be included in body and not on infobox as it is a policy and not a political ideology. Shadow4dark (talk) 07:31, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

This would significantly differ from pages like the ones regarding Smer and L'SNS in Slovakia though, I think it's best to be consistent regarding this. AbraxasAbominog (talk) 11:06, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Agree with Shadow4dark. Its not their ideology, but a consequence Dajasj (talk) 06:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Also agreed. Besides, Russophilia is something significantly different from being pro-Putin. Please let's not confuse Putin's policies with the works of Pushkin, Shostakovich and many others. —IJzeren Jan _Uszkiełtu? 16:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

position and sources

these following sources should be in historical position instead of current position because the publish date of each one of theme is before the 2020 party split and their publish dates are very close to the publish dates of the sources in historical position.

Pomchi-Inu87 (talk) 07:19, 6 May 2023 (UTC) Pomchi-Inu87 (talk) 07:19, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

References

Pro-Russian politics?

Should pro-Russian be added to ideology? Being openly pro-Russia and Baudet saying things like ""The SMO is the most hopeful thing that happened in my life, a front against the globalists has been opened, I hope Russia wins". They regularly host seminars with Russian politicians and ambassadors. They actively promote Putins agenda in Ukraine.

https://www.metronieuws.nl/in-het-nieuws/binnenland/2022/10/interview-baudet-fantastisch-poetin-bestaat/

https://www.volkskrant.nl/politiek/fvd-congres-barst-van-de-paradoxen-met-twee-anti-feministische-vrouwen-als-hoofdact~bb099dbe/

https://nos.nl/artikel/2465140-russische-connecties-rond-baudet-geen-geheim-meer-toch-een-zorg DyadyaMakhno (talk) 19:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Neo fascist

I think the classification of FvD as neo-fascist represents a view that is not backed up by the more reliable sources, in particular those focused on Dutch politics and political science. Therefore, I don't think it should be mentioned in the infobox. It could be discussed later in the article, for example with the book mentioned here. Dajasj (talk) 19:40, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

I agree and is unnecessary, similar parties as AfD does not have this. Also such addition should be discussed as it is against older consensus. Shadow4dark (talk) 04:59, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Shouldn't "neo-fascist" be included in the infobox? It also has more source than those used for national conservatism and right-wing populism. ToxinDemon (talk) 13:23, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

I think, if anything, it should be included in the infobox. The article includes the line "Since 2022, commentators have described the party's current program as neo-fascist.", with enough citations and consensus to include it in the infobox, in my opinion.

Furthermore, the party put many open neo-nazi's and neo-fascists on it's electoral lists for the 2026 municipal elections and refused to remove them or distance themselves from them. Even the prime minister, Rob Jetten, called them out on this. Especially under De Vos, they've taken on a more unapologetic and open fascist course.

It could also be added as an ideological faction within the party, because, even if it isn't the main party line (which it pretty much is), there are definitely a lot of fascists within the party. Madlief (talk) 15:54, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

• Support, per User:Shadow4dark.