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9-pin cable

I've got a picture of a 1394b cable with 9 pins. I don't see a good place for it in the document, should I include it somewhere? If so, where? McKay (talk) 21:19, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

It looks a lot like the picture on the right

someone else's similar picture

, except there's 9 holes in the center block.McKay (talk) 21:22, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

That's the same connector. The holes are just exposed contact spring holes, the contacts themselves are on top of and below the center block. --Zac67 (talk) 21:38, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 24 March 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved (closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 16:13, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

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IEEE 1394 → FireWire – Is the name Firewire not commonly used outside of Apple spheres? Is the numerical identifier that much more widespread in common use? —151.132.206.250 (talk) 18:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC) (move proposed 15:37, 24 March 2022 (UTC)) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 07:06, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

FWIW here's the ngram. ~Kvng (talk) 15:22, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Afraid the linked Ngram search only covers lowercase. Here's a corrected link. FireWire appears approximately four times more frequently than the IEEE designation throughout the corpus, and i.LINK barely at all. —151.132.206.250 (talk) 00:10, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

• Support FireWire was the WP:COMMONNAME while it was in use, although I believe it is pretty much dead now. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:57, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Apple developed it but the name Firewire was only used for Apple products. Just like the i.Link was only used by Sony and Lynx was only used by Texas Instruments.  Stepho  talk  11:57, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
  • What was it called when found on, say, Dell computers? FWIW a quick Google search seems to imply that FireWire was still used five times more often than IEEE-1394. —151.132.206.250 (talk) 16:49, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

    Based on this archived page from 2010, or this one from 2008, IEEE 1394 or 1394a. --Ahecht (TALK
    PAGE) 19:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

    I meant more along the lines of what users or the media called it when referring to off-brand use. Seems dubious to treat technical specs as common use. Like, did Dell support forums have talk of FireWire devices, or did HP laptop reviewers tout its i.LINK support? Or did they avoid brand names when not discussing those brands? —151.132.206.250 (talk) 17:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC) (edited 20:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC))

    In that case, yes, some reviews did refer to it as FireWire. See https://www.cnet.com/reviews/dell-studio-15-review/ or https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/dell-studio-15-1558 for examples. --Ahecht (TALK
    PAGE) 20:19, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose - The article is about more than the Apple implementation so the IEEE 1394 title is a better fit. Though IEEE 1394 was used less often and is less snappy, it is sufficiently recognizable so as not to WP:ASTONISH readers. ~Kvng (talk) 19:13, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Computing has been notified of this discussion. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 07:07, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

• Weak oppose. IEEE 1394 is a clearer term when discussing the standard as a whole, as "FireWire" is indeed Apple's name for the product and generally only is used to refer to the 400/800 implementations of it and not more recent specs. In its heyday, many manufacturers seemingly avoided use of the FireWire name if they could avoid it. That all being said, the term remains the common name of the standard as originally implemented. I think I prefer the present state -- that FireWire redirects to this page, and the terms "FireWire," "i.Link," and "Lynx" are all in bold in the leading paragraph. - - mathmitch7 ^{(talk/contribs)} 18:59, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Worth noting that this article apparently was previously called "FireWire" and a 2006 RM proposal to move it away from that name was roundly rejected on commonname grounds. It was subsequently boldly moved in 2008. Colin M (talk) 19:11, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

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Requested move 1 September 2026

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The result of the move request was: moved. WP:CCC Editors agreed that the WP:COMMONNAME is FireWire independantly of it being the brand name by Apple. Regards, (closed by non-admin page mover) squawk7700 (talk) 22:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

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IEEE 1394 → FireWire – Retrying this move request. I'm starting out by commenting again that the page was boldly moved to it's current name: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=15072131

The listed reason is that it is a trade name. This is not a valid rationale, we use the WP:COMMONNAME, regardless of whether this is a trademark. FireWire has always been the common name of this topic.

The question is what policy we deem more important: WP:PRECISE or WP:COMMONNAME. I argue the latter is more important. PhotographyEdits (talk) 15:59, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

• Leaning against. The referenced move was in 2008. More recently, there was an RM in 2022 that confirmed the current article name, so the comment about a bold move is just a distraction. One other aspect discussed in the 2022 RM is the suggestion that "FireWire" is a term that is specific to Apple branded products, while IEEE 1394 is a brand-neutral name. IEEE 1394 is also a well-known name for the subject, not just the average obscure standard number. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:11, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

  I don't consider that a distraction, in my view it is important to note the previous names in a RM discussion. PhotographyEdits (talk) 15:20, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

• Support per COMMONNAME.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:18, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. The Firewire name only applies to Apple products. Possibly it was trademarked so that other could not use it? The name "1394" was well-known and often used when this protocol was in common consumer use. Has anything changed since the 2008 and 2022 discussions?  Stepho  talk  00:56, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
• Support per WP:COMMONNAME – while 'Firewire' is an Apple trademark, it is the name commonly used to refer to IEEE 1394. Compare: Aspirin, Velcro, Kleenex, etc. --Zac67 (talk) 09:16, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
• Support Per WP:COMMONNAME, I knew it as FireWire and wasn't even aware it was Apple-only, which indicates just how commonly the name became used. IEEE 1394 is gibberish to most readers. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:59, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

My memories are the exact opposite. I saw most PC's of the era (desktop and laptop) advertised with 1394 ports and only later did I realise that this port also talked to "FireWire" devices. I have vague memories of Apple cracking down harshly on PC manufacturers who didn't pay a license fee to use the name, so many (most?) PC manufactures skipped the FireWire name and only used the 1394 name. In many cases, recollections like yours and mine often depend on whether you were in the Apple camp or the PC camp.  Stepho  talk  23:38, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, admittedly all my exposure to it was via Mac computers in school so that lines up.

However, Ngrams says FireWire was by far the most popular term for it and still is, so there is some hard evidence of my claim. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:20, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Support; it's the WP:COMMONNAME and even though the name is used for Apple products, many sources I found refer to it as Firewire regardless of it's application. EvanTech10 (talk, contribs) ⚡ 14:07, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Apologies

For everyone going through the logs of this article in the future, I would like to apologize for the corrupted move and all the confusing entries I've created, all that should have (and in the end did) happen was the above RM. If anyone finds leftovers of my mess please ping me and I'll happily clean this up! Best, squawk7700 (talk) 23:52, 8 September 2026 (UTC)