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Latest comment: 10 months ago by Femke in topic Planned update

Summary of edits made Jan-April 2024 and possible further improvements

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There was quite a lot of new text, updating to IPCC AR6 and restructuring of the article following its merger with economic impacts article

  1. improved the lead to better reflect and balance content
  2. improved, more comprehensive purposes section
  3. types of economic models following IPCC + new section on statistical models
  4. analytical frameworks is more balanced in describing methods other than CBA
  5. Costs of impacts of climate change is better structured into global estimates, regional and sectoral.
  6. the global section was improved with information on the 'what' and the 'how' of these estimates and updated with AR6 findings
  7. new separate sections detailing the costs of adaptation and mitigation measures excerpting from those sub- articles
  8. reorgansing text in section on challenges and debates, and updating some which go back quite a long way

Possible further improvements are :

  1. regional and sectoral estimates of economic impacts - main sectors and affected regions, including links to relevant articles still needs work and updating from old sources
  2. Risk management method - I think this should be more focussed on the - iterative risk management concept that is embedded in IPCC work
  3. additional analytical frameworks/methods to be added could be Real options analysis, multi-criteria analysis
  4. there is quite a big reliance on excerpts from other articles which is not ideal
  5. very few studies of climate change are integrated into main articles covering the economic frameworks here eg CBA, CEA

Richarit (talk) 16:40, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Richarit, thanks a lot for this useful summary and your work on this article! Do you have time for any of the possible improvements that you listed here, or is that more for others? Regarding the number of excerpts, I agree with you that it was quite a high number (five). This prompted me to remove the excerpt on social cost of carbon.
How do you (and others) feel about the general article quality now, is it still a C class article, or has it gone up to B? (see here for an explanation of the grading system: WP:ASSESS). EMsmile (talk) 12:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
The WP:Text-source integrity of the article is extremely poor, so it's more C than B. I'm also tackling issues with close paraphrasing (usually just individual sentences copied with few words changes).
One question is how to deal with the two sections on mitigation costs. Cost of mitigation and economics of mitigation. They don't overlap too much, but it's unclear from the headings what would be found under them. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 11:18, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
I agree with you that it's unclear to laypersons what would be the difference between the sections on cost of mitigation and economics of mitigation. I think this came about as the content under economics of mitigation used to be a stand-alone article and was merged into this one. EMsmile (talk) 21:39, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Planned update

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I plan to take this article up to B level, with a focus on climate damages. I do research in this field, so want to be open about potential biases and one conflict of interest:

  • I've published on postgrowth: , and am sympathetic to this minority point of view. I think it gets overemphasized however, so might condense relevant sections.
  • I've written critically about Cost-Benefit Analysis before (e.g. ). I might reduce the emphasis on CBA, while also reducing emphasis on the current alternatives specified such as CEA.
  • I work on the E3ME-FTT model. I don't plan to touch this text.

—Femke 🐦 (talk) 12:47, 4 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Great! Thank you. I once did a bit of work on this article (trying to work with content experts) but didn't get very far (as my experts abandoned me after an initial video call about this article...). It's got rather low pageviews but perhaps that's due to the article's poor quality, and the pageviews will go up once the quality is improved (and it's linked better from other articles). Thanks for tackling this article! EMsmile (talk) 21:41, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
The low page views is why I don't plan to take it further than B-level. There's some general website design evidence that if you rewrite into plain English, you get more views, but I've not seen a change much in pageviews from improving WIkipedia articles myself. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 23:31, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply