Talk:Dominic Martinelli

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The result was: promoted by Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:13, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that the 2020 Glenbrook South/Northwestern Dominic Martinelli from the Illinois record books is not the 2020s Glenbrook South/Northwestern Nick Martinelli in the Big Ten Record books?

• Source: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/1/30/21116079/glenbrook-south-evanston-high-school-basketball-dominic-martinelli

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vivinos
  • Comment: 1st of 5 QPQs

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 391 past nominations.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:42, 1 May 2026 (UTC).

• I will get this to 1500 characters within 7 days.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:46, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
• Not a review, but the hook is currently written is confusing: neither the main hook fact nor the connection are clear. Is it that they are both Martinelli? If so, even if that could be clarified, that isn't necessarily interesting by itself: people in the same field share the same surnames all the time. I would suggest proposing separate solo hooks for both in the meantime. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:00, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
  • I was editing Nick's page (before I discovered his name is Nicholas) and found the record's by Dominic. I believe it is not uncommon for someone whose birth name is Dominic to go by the nickname (no pun intended) Nick. It is also common for a record setting college athlete to have been a record setting high school athlete. Because of COVID, many players who finished high school in 2020 played college basketball until 2026 by using the COVID exception for one year and getting a medical redshirt for another. I was thoroughly confused and revised Nick's article based on the IHSA record book discovery. Eventually, I realized that Dominic's high school career ended in 2020 per the record book and Nick was a high school all-state player in 2022. Basically, since I am one of the more experienced and expert college basketball player researchers, and was confused, I created the Dominic article solely to disambiguate the subject. Dominic would survive an AFD, but is not sufficiently notable that it would be regarded as normal to create his page. In this case we have two people notable enough to be on WP. Who are 1. close enough in age to be confused as the same person, 2. have given names that could lead to confusion as to whether they are the same person, 3. are notable for performance in the same sport, 4. Went to the same high school, 5. Went to the same college after high school, 6. are in the record books for the same sport, 7. are actually brothers, 8. use the same surname. I see you notice numbers 3 and 8 on this list. It is not just 3 and 8. It is all 8 of these similarities that is unusual.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:37, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Unless we know that Dominic was commonly known as Nick, then that context does not matter. Saying that people would confuse the two would be almost like original research. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:55, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Are you saying it is OR to assert that Nick can be a nickname for both Nicholas and Dominic? There is no assertion that this Dominic was ever known as Nick. The assertion is that some Dominics are known as Nick or rather that one of the two goes by a name that could be a nickname for either name?-I am asserting that with the proper massaging of this hook via ALTs we could assert that two people that could be confused along 8 dimension are distiguishable as separate subjects.TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:05, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

No, it is that it could be original research to say that the two are confused for each other. Readers may not even immediately get that "Dominic" could also be shortened to Nick. If it was the case that they were both called Nick Martinelli, or we have sources that confirm that Dominic is regularly nicknamed Nick, the sure, the current hook could work. As it stands, the assumption requires some jumps. Could you go with another hook fact instead? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:14, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

• ALT1 Although Nick Martinelli is a two-time Big Ten Conference scoring champion, his high school's career scoring record is held by his older brother?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:27, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, that is a much better hook. I would suggest putting "basketball" there somewhere or linking to Big Ten for the benefit of non-American readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:40, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

• ALT2 Although basketball player Nick Martinelli (pictured) is a two-time Big Ten Conference scoring champion, his high school's career scoring record is held by his older brother?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:53, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
• Noting that this is still in need of a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:13, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
• Reviewing both articles. Dominic is a new creation, Nick is a 5x expansion. Both articles are well-cited, meet length requirements, and are free from close paraphrasing. The linked QPQ is confusing since it as a four-article nomination, so I'm not sure if you're using two QPQs from that or just one (please make it clear if you haven't spent all the QPQs from that nomination yet). Otherwise, you may need to provide a second QPQ.

Nick being scoring champion is cited to two sources: the first, I can't access due to requiring a subscription, while the second is a database and so the information is easy to miss. In the interest of verifiability I would suggest adding a third reference that confirms in prose him leading scoring. In addition, "scoring champion" might actually be a bit confusing for some readers (I vaguely recall that term being challenged by another editor at a different nomination), so I would suggest changing it to the more accessible "top scorer". Dominic being their high school's top scorer is mentioned in the source and verified, but the footnote needs to be duplicated per DYKHFC.

I can approve this once all these issues have been addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:46, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

• ALT3 Although basketball player Nick Martinelli (pictured) led the Big Ten Conference in scoring twice, his high school's career scoring record is held by his older brother?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:32, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
• Yes use 2 of the 5 QPQ credits from that nomination.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:34, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
• Added scoring championship IC.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:08, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
• adhered to WP:DYKHFC.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:32, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I have just one last concern. I'm actually okay with ALT3 as is, it's just I feel that someone could object to "led the Big Ten in scoring twice" wording because they might see it as two vague: "led scoring at some point in a season, even if not to the end?", when it meant that he was the season top scorer. To be safe, it might be possible to adjust that wording a little more without using the term "scoring champion". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:06, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

• ALT4: ... that although basketball player Nick Martinelli (pictured) led the Big Ten Conference in scoring for back-to-back seasons, his high school's career scoring record is held by his older brother? -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:35, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
• ALT5 Although basketball player Nick Martinelli (pictured) led the Big Ten Conference in scoring for back-to-back seasons, his high school's career and single-game scoring records are held by his older brother?
• Approving ALT4 only as ALT5 is just a bit more complicated. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:39, 1 June 2026 (UTC)