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| On 31 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Smer. The result of the discussion was Revert move to Slovak Social Democracy. |
Add note on political position (left-conservative)
[edit]In my view, Smer-SD's infobox should have a note [A] that the party can also be described as 'left-conservative' given their socially and culturally conservative positions of social issues. The article on the Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance (BSW) in Germany has a similar note in the infobox indicating as such. Wanted to add this to the talk page to discuss it and find good sources to cite if such a note is added. E-Ville 2025 (talk) 12:41, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
DW article describes them as right-wing
[edit]Smer is very obviously not a left-wing party, at least in a social sense. DW made an article on far-right parties on the rise in Europe and listed Smer as one of them. They should at least be listed as syncretic, center-left economically but far-right or right-wing socially like Georgian Dream is listed in Georgia.
https://www.dw.com/en/from-germany-and-the-netherlands-to-slovakia-and-poland-the-far-right-continues-to-grow-in-europe/a-72888389 TYMR (talk) 20:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Ultimately, this amounts to little besides the author's own view. DW still described Smer as left-wing in 2024. And if we check your link, the author is calling Smer right-wing based on anti-immigration rhetoric from 2016 and anti-Ukrainian rhetoric from 2023 - these dates are given by the author himself.
- As of this year, overwhelming majority of sources continue to describe the party as left-wing. This includes Centre for Eastern Studies, EUNews, CNBC or Politico.
- An academic journal published in March 2025 likewise describes the party as left-wing. Brat Forelli🦊 07:47, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- At this point with Smer dismantling welfare system as much as they can, they can no longer be described as left wing in any sense. 84.245.120.27 (talk) 11:48, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
Why was russophilia removed?
[edit]Fico literally went to moscow on multiple occasions and has shook hands with putin the party is undeniably russophilic. They repetedly spread russian prpaganda on their social media. And the party is definitly not left wing. I would change it to big-tent. The literally allowed the far right party SNS in their coalition T. ButterII (talk) 09:56, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Russophilia is not a political ideology. A political position of the party is determined based on reliable sources and not on the basis of individual observations. Definitely not unheard of left-wing parties working with far-right ones - Self-Defence of the Republic of Poland formed a coalition with the League of Polish Families once. Brat Forelli🦊 17:35, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Brat Forelli that still doesnt change the fact that its left wing policies are completly minimal the party takes highly right wing stances on culture and state. The reason why i believe it should be 'big tent' is due to how the party always changes its rhetoric and how its members range across the spectrum ( Blaha, Kaliňák etc.) T. ButterII (talk) 19:30, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- You need to keep WP:YANARS in mind. If the party was a big tent, then there would be several reliable source that explicitly state so. Instead, what we have are sources that classify the party as left-wing instead. Brat Forelli🦊 19:56, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Brat Forelli are any of these 'reliable sources' written by competent politologits whoa ctually live in slovakia understand the situation and are not just look at it from a foreign perspective? T. ButterII (talk) 23:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- You claim an expertise in political science if you usurp the right to judge whether political scientists behind the sources cited are competent or not. Which is again WP:YANARS. Brat Forelli🦊 04:45, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Brat Forelli No? I do not? I literally just wanted to know who you have these sources from and if they are written by local slovak politologists or foreign ones? T. ButterII (talk) 12:33, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- You claim an expertise in political science if you usurp the right to judge whether political scientists behind the sources cited are competent or not. Which is again WP:YANARS. Brat Forelli🦊 04:45, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Brat Forelli are any of these 'reliable sources' written by competent politologits whoa ctually live in slovakia understand the situation and are not just look at it from a foreign perspective? T. ButterII (talk) 23:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- You need to keep WP:YANARS in mind. If the party was a big tent, then there would be several reliable source that explicitly state so. Instead, what we have are sources that classify the party as left-wing instead. Brat Forelli🦊 19:56, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Brat Forelli that still doesnt change the fact that its left wing policies are completly minimal the party takes highly right wing stances on culture and state. The reason why i believe it should be 'big tent' is due to how the party always changes its rhetoric and how its members range across the spectrum ( Blaha, Kaliňák etc.) T. ButterII (talk) 19:30, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
Proposal to update lead and infobox ideology to reflect documented right-wing populist/national-conservative shift
[edit]Hello everyone, I would like to propose an update to the lead paragraph and the infobox ideology section for SMER-SD. While the party's foundational roots and historical platform are rooted in center-left social democracy and left-wing populism, a substantial amount of recent political science literature and international institutional actions (up to 2026) document a profound ideological evolution of the party. To ensure that the article remains accurate, up-to-date, and aligned with Wikipedia’s **Neutral Point of View (NPOV)** and **Verifiability** policies, I suggest framing the party's ideology chronologically. Rather than removing historical labels, we should explicitly categorize "Social democracy" and "Left-wing populism" as historical/origins, while introducing "National conservatism" and "Right-wing populism" to describe the party's current platform. ### Key Evidence & Sources: 1. **Institutional Suspension:** In late 2023, the Party of European Socialists (PES) officially suspended SMER-SD. The move was explicitly tied to the party's sharp departure from mainstream center-left values, adopting hardline socially conservative, anti-immigration, and nationalist rhetoric that aligns far closer with the European radical right. 2. **Academic Consensus:** Recent peer-reviewed research explicitly analyzes this shift. For instance: * Ľubomír Zvada (2023) tracks the "radicalisation of its nationalistic and populist rhetoric," arguing SMER is moving closer to far-right positioning than traditional social democracy. * A recent Bates College study (2025), *SMER, Anti-Western Populism, and Political Violence*, explicitly contextualizes modern SMER within right-wing populist frameworks and its anti-liberal pivot. 3. **Syncretic Position:** Reliable analyses (e.g., Wilfried Martens Centre) categorize SMER's modern platform as an "illiberal convergence" or syncretic politics—effectively combining leftist/welfare economic positioning with right-wing social and cultural conservatism. ### Proposed Implementation: * * This preserves the entire history of the party and all original citations of the article, but accurately reflects the modern reality documented by many current sources. I welcome your thoughts and feedback on these changes. Thanks! Waldmeister34 (talk) 20:41, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
- This is an AI-generated text. Nowhere is the claim that "a substantial amount of recent political science literature and international institutional actions (up to 2026) document a profound ideological evolution of the party" shown, so keep WP:ONUS in mind. And I doubt you will be able to substantiate that with AI anyway.
- What we do have are 2026 sources that describe the party as left-wing all the same:
- Brat Forelli🦊 23:04, 22 May 2026 (UTC)
- Vrzal, Miroslav (2026). "Conservative Religious Forces Against Metal Culture in Central and Eastern Europe: The Case of Slovakia". In Easter, Gerald M. (ed.). De Gruyter Handbook of Eastern European Politics, Society and Culture. p. 377. doi:10.1515/9783111320021-034. ISBN 9783111320021.
Despite his past membership in the Communist Party, the current prime minister, Robert Fico of the left-wing nationalist party SMER—sociálna demokracia (SMER—Social Democracy), embraces his Christian roots and identity.
- Kopeček, Lubomír; Kubát, Michal; Hloušek, Vít (2026). "The Russian Invasion of Ukraine Since 2022: Security Concerns, Political Turns, and Populism". In Jan Kysela (ed.). Central European Presidents, Prime Ministers, and War Executive Dualism and Foreign Policy in International Conflicts. Palgrave Studies in Presidential Politics. Palgrave Macmillan. p. 165. doi:10.1007/978-3-032-04905-6. ISBN 978-3-032-04905-6. ISSN 2946-5168.
The ruling coalition continued until the 2020 parliamentary elections, led by the new prime minister of Fico's left-wing Smer party, Peter Pellegrini.
- Damião, Íris; Franco, João; Silva, Mariana; Almeida, Paulo; Magalhães, Pedro C.; Gonçalves-Sá, Joana (2026). "Cross-National Evidence of Disproportionate Media Visibility for the Radical Right in the 2024 European Elections". p. 27. arXiv:2601.05826 [cs.CY].
See infographic: A.3 National Parties and respective classification.
- von Borzyskowski, Inken; Vabulas, Felicity (29–31 January 2026). Domestic Politics and Participation in International Organizations: How US Legislators Affect IO Funding. 18th Annual Conference on The Political Economy of International Organization. IE University. p. 14.
While many people associate populist nationalism with right-wing politics, it can also be left-wing as seen with Sinn Féin (Ireland and Northern Ireland),the Justicialist Party (Argentina) , La France Insoumise (LFI) (France) or Smer – Social Democracy (Slovakia).
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- Vrzal, Miroslav (2026). "Conservative Religious Forces Against Metal Culture in Central and Eastern Europe: The Case of Slovakia". In Easter, Gerald M. (ed.). De Gruyter Handbook of Eastern European Politics, Society and Culture. p. 377. doi:10.1515/9783111320021-034. ISBN 9783111320021.
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