Talk:Dale Snodgrass

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 06:56, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that in 1985, Captain Dale Snodgrass was chosen as "Fighter Pilot of the Year" and was called the real "Maverick" from Top Gun? Source: https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/jul/25/tributes-pour-in-for-flying-legend-dale-snort-snod/

"Many admirers called him the real “Maverick,” the call sign for the character portrayed by Tom Cruise in the blockbuster “Top Gun.”"

• ALT1:... that Captain Dale Snodgrass was the “highest time Tomcat pilot,” with more than 4,800 hours in the F-14 and more than 1,200 arrested carrier landings, both more than any other pilot? Source: https://theaviationgeekclub.com/dale-snort-snodgrass-legendary-us-navy-f-14-tomcat-pilot-killed-in-in-the-crash-of-a-siai-marchetti-sm-1019/

"In the Navy, Dale accumulated more hours in the F-14 than any other front-seater, and was the “highest time Tomcat pilot,” with over 4800 hours and more than 1200 arrested carrier landings."

• ALT2:... that Captain Dale Snodgrass was considered one of the greatest fighter pilots of all time? Source: https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/jul/25/tributes-pour-in-for-flying-legend-dale-snort-snod/

"Considered one of the greatest fighter pilots of all time, Snodgrass’s military career began in the early 1970s and ran for 26 years. He accumulated more than 4,800 hours in the F-14 in both war and peace, more than any other pilot."

Created by Jauerback (talk). Self-nominated at 14:32, 12 August 2021 (UTC).

New enough, long enough, no copyvio, well reffed - good to go. However, I have a problem with ALT2. The claim of "greatest" is an unattributed statement in a single newspaper article, and I can find no similar statement elsewhere. It is difficult to imagine this being a statement anyone "in the biz" would make, given there appear to be no actual combat victories and his most-remembered attributes are in the leadership role and at air shows. These are quality attributes, but not the ones that give rise to "greatest fighter pilot". I strongly suggest striking ALT2 until we can get some collaborating statements from credible sources rather than what appeared to be a statement invented by a line reporter. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

To T:DYK/P3

Recent reversion by user:Jauerback (fixing the specialized style "TOPGUN")

Please see the links that I included in my edit: Talk:United_States_Navy_Strike_Fighter_Tactics_Instructor_program#TOPGUN_upper-case,_not_initial-caps and Talk:Top_Gun:_Maverick/Archive_1#Misuse_of_stylized_form_TOPGUN_(see_WP:SSF_and_WP:CSF), where I explain this issue thoroughly. Holy (talk) 18:47, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Also, see MOS:POSS. While some style guides permit merely adding an apostrophe to a singular noun ending with an s or z sound to form the possessive (e.g., "Snodgrass' pass, Jesus' teachings, the princess' dress, the lens' diameter), Wikipedia style does not.

Furthermore, EVEN IF Wikipedia allowed either style—it does not, per MOS:'S—Wikipedia directs using the same style choice within an article instead of switching between different, approved styles. The article already has "Cruise's," adding 's to form the possessive of a singular noun ending in an s or z sound. From the lede of the MOS: "Where more than one style or format is acceptable under the MoS, one should be used consistently within an article and should not be changed without good reason." Holy (talk) 19:01, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

So, you didn't notice that I already partially reverted my revert that addressed the first part of this? Guess not. Go ahead and revert it completely. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 19:26, 6 April 2026 (UTC)