Talk:Comando Vermelho

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This drug cartel really exists. Read the following links (all in Portuguese):

• History and activities
• History

So, please, do not delete ths article. Regards, Carioca 03:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Comando Vermelho are a bonafide street gang - not AT ALL a crime organization. Serbitar 12:49, 1 Dec 2006 (UTC)

Serbitar, you are being sarcastic, right?189.119.74.140 (talk) 08:49, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Allies

First of all, I'm sorry about my english.

Comando Vermelho and Primeiro Comando da Capital are no longer allies, since september of 2016. They have declared war on each other. Each side has a large number of troops (between 7 and 10 thousand), mainly fighting inside brazilian prisionary system.

CV is allied with FDN (Família do Norte), Okaida (A violent group that inspires themselves on Al-Qaeda), Bonde dos 40, PGC and Sindicato do Crime do Rio Grande do Norte (SDC-RN). PCC is alone in the fight, being the biggest crime organization in the country.

The war is reported in a number of references, some of them can be found in brazilian wikipedia: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflito_entre_PCC_e_CV — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcanj106 (talk • contribs) 08:11, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

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Women's Role in the Gang

The section on women in the CV is not well sourced and there are not high-quality sources documenting the role of women in the CV, so it should be deleted Backerman1 (talk) 23:30, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Why Italic title?

The title is supposed to be normal, not italic. Remove the italic title tag. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 10:08, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

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CV and left wing ideology

Hello all, i modified the paragraph in question to remove repeated information and add upon a line which initially just mentioned the transition to democracy (without any other information) to include how the CV has lost some of its left-wing ideology over the years and, similarly to PCC, transitioned to a cartel-like organization emphasizing territorial and economic control.

Theres also a lot of other information on this through the article, and i want to especially mention that, while CV may still hold some of its initial values through its statute (and its use of guerrilla/irregular tactics, which were somewhat influenced by the left-wing guerrillas), a lot of its "political" (mainly ideological in that it never explicitly supported an political party or group, it just had somewhat of a orientation) leanings were lost, yet again, as the faction gained a focus on exercising control over the drug and weapons trade, while also dominating territory.

Just to emphasize this again, CV is, nowadays, like PCC or any other faction in Brazil, it operates like a cartel, not much different from those of Colombia or Mexico, it focuses on economic and territorial control through the drug and weapons trade, money which (differently from organizations like FARC, EPP or Shining Path) isnt used to finance a specific ideology or movement.

MySalsa22 (talk) 04:32, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

@MySalsa22: The CV didn't lose its left-wing ideology. They still see themselves as social bandits who "resist" against oppression. Territorial and economic control are guerrilla operations, which they learned in their formative years. That's not a shift, that's popular war as preconized by Maoist doctrine. All the cartels you mentioned are also left-wing guerrillas.

Filipe46 (talk) 18:57, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

Seeing themselves as "social bandits resisting against oppression" isnt inherently a left wing ideology, that is also something that is secondary to the faction's main focus, which is gaining power and money through territorial dominance and the drug/arms trade.

Also, how is PCC, GDE or FDN left wing guerrillas exactly? they operate almost 1-to-1 like a cartel, we shouldnt confuse cartels with guerrilla groups or else we might start saying the Italian or Russian mafias are a left wing guerrilla group, confusing these two types of groups is inherently wrong, one focuses solely on power and money, the other has a clear political/ideological motive for their actions.

Territorial and economic control are not necessarily mutually exclusive with guerrilla operations, i agree with that, although guerrillas, as said before, usually fight constantly against the state for a political or ideological reason.

They also wouldnt have people in high up positions like TH Joias, they are usually more isolated than cartels (which may operate even inside the government or institutions like the police and judiciary) and they oppose the state itself, wishing to overthrow it, all of that is not what PCC, CV, FDN, GDE, PGC, BDM or any other cartel wishes, what would they gain from it, if they gain much more from robberies and selling drugs/weapons?

I also dont know what the maoist doctrine has to do with this, as, with some exceptions, Maoist doctrine was never a mainstream doctrine among the left wing groups here.

Yet again, if we are going to classify these organizations as left wing, we might classify the militias as right wing - both classifications are wrong though, dont get me wrong, but its inherently wrong to claim that a group which operates solely for profit and control has any ideology to it, except what they claim in many cases (many US gangs also claim they are fighting oppression or whatever, and they are not classified as left wing here, because they simply arent)

MySalsa22 (talk) 19:12, 31 May 2026 (UTC)