Talk:Circumcellions

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The content of this looks decidedly dodgy: other sources (such as here: http://www.bethel.edu/~letnie/AfricanChristianity/WNACircumcellions.html) give somewhat more probable-sounding accounts of the Circumcellions. - Outeast

"fanatical band" - "predatory peasants" - doesn't sound very neutral to me Auto98uk (talk) 11:04, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Also the use of the term Catholics is anachronistic, because the schism between Catholics and Orthodoxs occured much later.

It isn't. In this context, "Catholic" refers to doctrines of the Council of Nicea (rather than Arians, Donatists, etc.) BTW, the Orthodox consider themselves Catholic (i.e. the true heirs of the Catholic Church in this sense)

Circumcellions

Though certainly no expert, this account seems consistent with Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.148.117.101 (talk) 10:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

check out Brent D. Shaw's article "Bad Boys" and his book "Sacred Violence" for a different point of view — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.183.196.167 (talk) 12:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

This is sometimes considered an early example of Suicide by cop.

Which is conveniently cited as coming from Gibbon... in 1993? OK, the edition cited is 1993 but there is a dischronology at play...FeatherPluma (talk) 02:34, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

"Free love"

"Free love" or "holding women in common" was a generic accusation made against a large number of radical social movements from classical antiquity to the Renaissance (see Mazdakism etc). It's rather unlikely to be true in any specific case... AnonMoos (talk) 13:55, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

The claim about advocating free love was not mentioned in the cited source so I removed it. Nosferattus (talk) 16:29, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Use of the term "Catholic" in this article

Copied from 2010 section above - The content of this looks decidedly dodgy: other sources (such as here: http://www.bethel.edu/~letnie/AfricanChristianity/WNACircumcellions.html) give somewhat more probable-sounding accounts of the Circumcellions. - Outeast" "fanatical band" - "predatory peasants" - doesn't sound very neutral to me Auto98uk (talk) 11:04, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Also the use of the term Catholics is anachronistic, because the schism between Catholics and Orthodoxs occured much later.

It isn't. In this context, "Catholic" refers to doctrines of the Council of Nicea (rather than Arians, Donatists, etc.) BTW, the Orthodox consider themselves Catholic (i.e. the true heirs of the Catholic Church in this sense)

I think this needs to be clarified better in the article. Further explanation here would help too. Whatever the situation, as it reads the term can lead to confusion as it currently reads, even to a moderately educated reader. Also, please sign your post above. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 01:45, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

The Orthodox Churches may consider themselves technically 'catholic' (with a small C), but even in Eastern Orthodox countries, the word is normally used to designate the Roman Catholic Church and understood accordingly. The use of the term 'Catholic' to designate the pre-schism Church implies that the Roman Catholic Church is the true continuation of original Christianity, while the Orthodox ones are deviations and separatists. Thus, this use of the term - which I keep encountering on English Wikipedia about early Christianity - is blatant (Roman) Catholic POV and should be eliminated.--62.73.72.3 (talk) 12:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)