Talk:Calder Memorial Trophy

2004-2005 and 2005-2006

As far as I can see on the NHL website and some others, no calder was awarded in 04-05 and the 2005-2006 trophy was not awarded yet. Please wait for the NHL to annouce it before handing Ovechkin the trophy... BobbyJTHais 16:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Ovechkin isn't even a shoe-in, Dion Phaneuf of the Calgary Flames is a contender also, Crosby though is out of the race. The awards are tonight!! Max.pwnage 15:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Calder trophy runner ups

I would like to see this data added to the wiki. Sometimes it's interesting to see when a player wins the Calder and then disappears or is overshadowed by a runner up over the length of a full career. Does anyone know where to get this data?

Stipulations

What exactly are the stipulations for a "Rookie in the NHL"? Gretzky did not win in his first season because of prior professional experience, whereas Ovechkin won, despite playing pro in Russia. Furthermore, Ken Dryden won it after winning the Stanley Cup and Conn Smythe with the Canadiens. 21:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

i believe that the stipulation for gretzky was that if you played in the whl (wha i cant remember what it was called) your were not a contender for the award. the reason dryden won the stanley cup and conn smythe before the calder was because he did not play the required number of games in the nhl to count towards being considered a rookie the year he won the cup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.110.227.163 (talk) 19:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Also what are the minimum number of games a rookie needs to play to qualify for the Calder trophy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.204.201.172 (talk) 17:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Photos

Can we please add a picture of Bryan Berard here? There is not even a picture of him on his own main page. I have a picture below that was taken the same year he won the Calder: http://i24.tinypic.com/iqamol.jpg Bryan Berard is an inspiration to anyone with a disability.

Is it your image or one you found somewhere? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

How to insert pictures

I tried to place Pavel Bure in but i messed up.Starwars1791 (talk) 03:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The page has enough images. If you're going to add one, at least remove one. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 03:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but thanks for adding Pavel Bure.--Starwars1791 (talk) 03:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

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Eligibility Requirements (and odd priorities more generally)

Shouldn't the article state what the eligibility requirements are?

I believe you can't have played more than 30 games in any previous season or 6 games in more than one previous season. There's also an age maximum which was added after Sergei Makarov controversially won it in his age 30 season.

(I don't think there's a minimum number of games but I don't know 100% for sure, in fact that's what I came here to check! It's often claimed Dryden didn't win a year earlier because of some minimum he didn't meet but I'm pretty sure that isn't true.)

These are among the most obvious things for this article to include, but none of it is explicitly stated anywhere in the current article (which would be a stub if not for the list, frankly). The 30-game part is sort of implied in the odd digression about Belfour but that's weird too. What's so notable about Belfour's season that it warrants a paragraph in this very scanty article, whereas other players who had more of an impact on the award's history (Makarov) or are more notable for other reasons (Dryden winning the Conn Smythe before the Calder, why Gretzky didn't win) are nowhere to be seen.

I swear this article used to be much more in-depth and include this information. Where did it go? 50.72.61.76 (talk) 11:18, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

What's notable about Belfour's season is that some editor sought to include it; nothing weirder than that. I agree that the eligibility requirements should be in the article, but one factor is that they've changed, and more than once. I'll address a few of them. Ravenswing 11:59, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Looks great! Thanks for your work on this. You should know at least one person appreciated it. (Probably a lot more will over time, whether they realize it or not.) 50.72.61.76 (talk) 09:52, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Age?

There seems to be an issue with the age of some of the winners. The explanatory note states, "Player's age at the time of award win", which should be the player's age at the END of their rookie regular season since the award is voted on and awarded after the season ends. e.g. So Danny Grant was born February 21, 1946. He turned 23 DURING his rookie season of 1968-69, and his age is listed as 23. But Bobby Orr was born March 20, 1948. He turned 19 DURING his rookie season of 1966-67, yet his age is listed as 18.

Some are simply incorrect. e.g. Russ Blinco was born March 12, 1906, he was 27 during his rookie season of 1933–34, yet his age is 25? ~2026-13411-13 (talk) 02:39, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

Seeking consensus for the edit that I made that Ravenswing undid

Old revision of Calder Memorial Trophy

Edit summary:

Undid revision 1357944463 by ~2026-33275-38 This is a longstanding format across the NHL major trophy articles. Seek consensus for the change on the talk page first, please.

Following those instructions right here. ~2026-33275-38 (talk) 19:55, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Fair enough, thank you. What's your rationale for having been named to the Hall of Fame being less important than having played for a team that won the Cup? Ravenswing 20:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I just want people to know which players won both trophies in the same year, as some trophies have long droughts since the last time someone won both it and the Stanley Cup in the same season. Here's the last time the winner of each trophy also won the Stanley Cup the same season.

• Frank J. Selke Trophy: Aleksander Barkov, 2025
• King Clancy Memorial Trophy: Aleksander Barkov, 2025
• James Norris Memorial Trophy: Cale Makar, 2022 (+ Conn Smythe Trophy)
• Jim Gregory General Manager of the Year Award: Joe Sakic, 2022
• Maurice "Rocket" Richard Trophy: Alexander Ovechkin, 2018 (+ Conn Smythe Trophy)
• Mark Messier Leadership Award: Jonathan Toews, 2015
• William M. Jennings Trophy: Corey Crawford. 2015
• Vezina Trophy: Tim Thomas, 2011 (+ Conn Smythe Trophy)
• Art Ross Trophy: Evgeni Malkin, 2009 (+ Conn Smythe Trophy)
• Lady Byng Memorial Trophy: Pavel Datsyuk, 2008
• Hart Memorial Trophy: Martin St. Louis, 2004
• Jack Adams Award: John Tortorella, 2004
• Ted Lindsay Award: Martin St. Louis, 2004
• Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy: Ken Daneyko, 2000
• Calder Memorial Trophy: Scott Gomez, 2000

~2026-33275-38 (talk) 22:29, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Sure, but what makes that (rather trivial) element more important than being elected to the HHOF? Ravenswing 10:47, 6 June 2026 (UTC)