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Latest comment: 1 year ago by SP Air & Space in topic The Paper & Hearts Society

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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Brontë Parsonage Museum/CommentsTalk:Brontë Parsonage Museum/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

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  1. Requires infobox
  2. Requires more on the museum iteslf rather than the family
  3. Requires addition of inline references using one of the {{Cite}} templates
  4. Copy edit for WP:MOS
Keith D (talk) 13:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Last edited at 13:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 10:23, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

The Paper & Hearts Society

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[copied over from my talk page]. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:19, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I just want to request an inquirery on any issues of The Paper & Hearts Society using the location of the Brontë Parsonage Museum for Pop Culture of the article. Why is it "wrong" to say that the parsonage was visited in Lucy Powrie's 2019 novel when it was mentioned towards the end of the book? SP Air & Space (talk) 20:05, 16 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello SP Air & Space. Thanks for your note here. I see that you are a new user, and your first edit was at 17:25 UTC today, 16 June 2025. I have to admit that I have never heard of The Paper & Hearts Society which I assume is a book by someone called Lucy Powrie. So I can't comment on whether that book makes any mention of the Brontë Parsonage Museum. Neither of these have an article about them at Wikipedia. But I see that Lucy Powrie is briefly mentioned in the "Legacy" section of Emily Brontë. If you want to add the book in the "On popular culture" section of the Brontë Parsonage Museum article, you will need to provide a WP:Secondary source that provides support for the connection. The best place to discuss this is probably at Talk:Brontë Parsonage Museum. So, with your permission, I will copy this thread over there. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:14, 16 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
I agree to copy this thread over to Talk:Brontë Parsonage Museum, keep discussion thread titled The Paper & Hearts Society for the discussion and announcement of all requirements to add Lucy Powrie's novel to the "On popular culture" section on the Brontë Parsonage Museum article. What WP:Secondary sources are required for inclusion of a book to pop culture sections if the book mentions the subject of the article, since chapter 24 is at the subject location of the article of the attempted insertion? SP Air & Space (talk) 00:24, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Ok thank you, can you please explain why I can not include The Paper & Hearts Society scene in the parsonage with this article? SP Air & Space (talk) 07:44, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
You can include it if you can provide a secondary source that points out the connection. As Powrie has no Wikipedia article, there is no indication that her book is at all notable. For information the source used in the Emily Brontë article is this one. But that doesn't seem to mention the connection directly. Perhaps you can find something else? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:45, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes, what does it mean when there is no direct connection, when the book author is now the chair of the Brontë Society, and her characters have entered the premise? SP Air & Space (talk) 15:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
I was looking for a corroboration, in a secondary source, that "the parsonage is mentioned towards the end of the book". Yes, her personal connection with the museum is clear, regardless of the book. Perhaps, if this is just regarded as a plot detail, no further source is needed. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes, the parsonage is just regarded as a plot detail. Requesting clearance for entry of The Paper & Hearts Society to popular culture section of Brontë Parsonage Museum article. SP Air & Space (talk) 15:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
I will not revert your addition, given Powrie's connection with the museum. But it's possible that other editors might do so, if there is no secondary source support. Is there no review of the book that might provide what we want? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:45, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Does this review work for a secondary source support? SP Air & Space (talk) 16:09, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Well, I guess it's better than nothing, as it says: "The group went to places of significance to Jane Austen, William Shakespeare and The Bronte Family... From the Moors and the Parsonage that surrounded the Brontes..." It is only a user-written blog, apparently, without any editorial oversight. But many thanks for looking. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:48, 17 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, I just felt like the book deserves to be mentioned here. This is because of that scene describing the parsonage. SP Air & Space (talk) 03:01, 18 June 2025 (UTC)Reply